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It's a PC game.
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Final Fantasy XIII PC |OT| Lightning must not be forgotten
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It's a PC game.
So please explain how resolution = remake when durante fixed the resolution in an hour?
I'll wait.
BONKERS
Member
Such a catch 22. Buy shitty product. Only way for for it to get fixed? Get MORE people to buy said shitty product.
And it's not like that, got Bamco to help FromS fix DSI AT ALL.
Only DSII. Which is a heaping pile of bull.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Well, their dev team was also publicly shamed for it and apologized for their complete and total ignorance of PC development and embarrassing failure in numerous interviews. That may have had a little something to do with their extra effort for Dark Souls 2.
SenkiDala
Member
I agree with him, the game is playable, fully, without any problem or crash. The problem is "just" the 720p (which for some reason isn't ridiculous even on my FHD 46" screen), and the framerate drops. Ok those are REAL issues, but some of you are talking about it like if the game was unplayable, I think it's a bit overreacting.
For exemple I had some Assassins Creed games and Watch Dogs on PC that I couldn't even play, those games had crashes, so many bugs, glitches, etc etc, it's way worst than this FF XIII port.
It's just my opinion though.
720p is how it was meant to be played.
*image of beth refusing to release minimum system requirements*
BONKERS
Member
This might make sense. If 720p was actually a native resolution of any monitor or tv ever made.
Except they literally don't exist outside the %1 out there from more than half a decade ago.
And the framerate , even with drops on the PS3 is far more stable than this hunk of turd.
I can't remember the last time i've seen such a large amount of frametime variance and such little GPU usage.
For a game you ostensibly hate you do like to talk about it a lot. It's a lazy port. The end.
HolyBaikal
Banned
Thank you for the advice, everyone, about playing the game.
The last time I played Final Fantasy XIII was a few years ago and I got to Gran Pulse and stopped. So I don't remember everything.
I do remember spending a lot of time grinding though...
Does anyone know when enemies first start re-showing up if you restart the game or go to different areas?
The last time I played Final Fantasy XIII was a few years ago and I got to Gran Pulse and stopped. So I don't remember everything.
I do remember spending a lot of time grinding though...
Does anyone know when enemies first start re-showing up if you restart the game or go to different areas?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Well, it is basically the target resolution of any PS360 game.
I can see SE thinking "this is how we made the game, it is our original vision". If you were completely out of touch with PC gaming (as Japanese tend to be), and had a model of games being for specific consoles with a specific visual look, this might make sense to you. It's like web developers who can't accept flexible design.
But you know what I really think? They'd rather not offer an official way to increase the resolution until they can put it in a box and sell you the 4K Remaster for $60.
Please. I was just pointing out to him that this situation is not the norm.
brotkasten
Member
That sounds like a late port based on the 360 version with no options at all. What a terrible outcome and so much for "Don't worry, FF13 is a PC game that was downported to the consoles".
What are the solutions to the problems and can we put them into the OT?
The 30fps lock made it more pleasant to play than the sudden jumps between 20/30/60 I'm getting. Also the lack of 360 icons, any options and the worse than PS3 quality cutscenes make it bad.
Also I think the framerate fluctuations cause sound to desync in cutscenes.
Framerate drops are integral to maintaining the spirit of the original release.
BONKERS
Member
I have some solutions as far as AA goes if one doesn't want to use GeDoSaTo (Which I know more will probably prefer that)
Still need additional testing before I can make a final verdict however.
I'm also trying to get some HBAO+ working with the game.
But these , don't necessarily represent major fixes i guess.
Problems still persist for the time being.
Muskieratboi
Member
Quick update:
Managed to get the .XGRs displaying in Noesis, but they're Swizzled/Endianed:
This is getting into stuff like File endians, and thus my knowledge has ended. Anyone else wanna have a go at this? Durante? Whoever?
PM me and I'll throw you the QuickBMS Script.
Managed to get the .XGRs displaying in Noesis, but they're Swizzled/Endianed:
This is getting into stuff like File endians, and thus my knowledge has ended. Anyone else wanna have a go at this? Durante? Whoever?
PM me and I'll throw you the QuickBMS Script.
BONKERS
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BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Like they did on PS360 back in 2010?
BONKERS
Member
Speaking in purely technical terms.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I just had to get in the requisite "XIII sucks" barb. It's actually not bad.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
There is an option for that, if I'm not mistaken.
My TV is 720p >_>
But my monitor is 16:10 and 1050p. How hilarious is this going to look trying to run it? I can't believe what I'm reading in here, it is hilarious.
BONKERS
Member
Yes.
Port is just fine TBH. They even fixed the typos from the mobile versions. At least the ones i've seen so far.
No moar load captains be takin mah crystals. GET UR LOAD ELSEWHERE SWINE
Only problem is that battles run at 15FPS...
Performance is rock solid though. So even 30FPS is liveable.
Figured!
Couldn't tell if serious though. Just because I see that kind of sentiment flung around so much. Never can tell when people are messin
Your 720p TV is actually 768p 99/100 times.
I have a 720p TV as well. But again, it's actually 1366x768
Heaping pile of bull? C'mon.
And yes, its something of a Catch-22, but what is consistent is that low sales wont help anything.
And yet it still wouldnt have happened if it didnt sell well.
I'm not saying not to complain. Just that not buying is not the way to get what you want in this situation, like it or not.
BONKERS
Member
Bull? The only reason said product remains remotely palatable on PC is because someone like Durante went out of his way to fix it for FREE for them.
Did the publisher or developer take any retroactive action to go out of their way to help users who spent their hard earned money on the game ??
No, not really. They are even still leaving GFWL in there just because they can!
Why would anyone want to buy the product though, if it's such shoddy work?
It doesn't help them 8/10 times improve said product at all. Only future products. Which leaves people feeling ripped off and taken advantage of. Not to mention leaves a poor representation of an AWESOME product in the wake that the Pub/Dev combo flat out ignore and don't do anything to fix.
This is NOT the console closed ecosystem where it's going to cost them tens of thousands of dollars just to RELEASE a patch to users, let alone costs to make any patch.
GhostTrick
Banned
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
What if I bought this and then complained that I wouldn't buy the next two in the trilogy unless they fixed their crappy port? Because that's what I did.
Yeah. Basically. At least this time it was only 9 bucks (I'm assuming, it's 16R$ here, which is usually 9 bucks over there)
Monado Blade
Member
I'm playing FF4 on steam right now. I know it's a lazy port but it's not so bad, especially with the font mod that's available on the Steam forums.
Even with the 15fps battles, I can find enjoyment in it. It sort of has a chunky PS1 texture vibe to it that I like and is kind of charming.
FF13 on the other hand... what a huge pile of stinking shit. There's absolutely no redeeming feature about it, other than it's available for the PC on Steam.
And if you have the Asian region version like I do, there's more salt in the wound. Only the Japanese dub is available (which means some unsubtitled dialogue won't be understood) plus we only get half the content the rest of the world gets.
Its 32xSSAA, It should look good.
xBladeM6x
Member
Funny enough, it happens to be as bad, but with the resolution missing. The thing is, Dark Souls was locked to 720p even if you set it to 1080p. Durante fixed that game to be the best version of it on any platform and in one day, he's managed to almost do it with this game. The vanilla port is shit, but with Gedosato it's likely to become the best version, minus FMV compression, possibly allowing texture / sound mods though.
I'm a little behind on following the release, do we have any comparison pics up between PS3 and PC FMVs? This was my primary concern the whole time during pre-release, if they don't look great I'll stick with my PS3 copy.
Too lazy to find pics, but PS3 FMVs look a lot better.
Still, they'll get replaced in a week I bet. They're the same format I think.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Some comparisons were posted in this thread:
Comparison PC and PS3 cutscenes:
PC:
PS3:
PC:
PS3:
So yes, not PS3 quality
There is 360 icons. Just activate it in the menu option
I did, but it resulted in no icons being displayed at all. It also reset when the game was restarted.
MrTeachwell
Member
Despite all the hate the lazy port job is getting, I'm finding the game is quite enjoyable in it's current state. The 720p looks fine on a 24inch 1080p monitor and I'm pretty oblivious to minor framerate issues (anything above 'cinematic' 30 looks fine to me). The game certainly feels like a Final Fantasy game also, enjoying the visual style, music, and the one button fights look pretty (I'm sure the one button issue will change as I gain more abilities and actually begin to employ tactics).
I'm really glad they ported this to PC even more so at such a reasonable price. I would continue to support PC ports of this standard (functional but lacking standard pc options) if they continue to price them and ensure that the game is stable.
I'm really glad they ported this to PC even more so at such a reasonable price. I would continue to support PC ports of this standard (functional but lacking standard pc options) if they continue to price them and ensure that the game is stable.
HolyBaikal
Banned
I tried it with GeDoSaTo. It's a little bit buggy, but it works. I made some new screenshots.
The intros and videos sometimes have problems. And the save menu is a little strange...
So I think I may play more of the game in the original resolution until the fixes are better. And use GeDoSaTo when I see a really pretty place or scene that I want to take a picture of.
It's much prettier. Though it's a little bit buggy...
The intros and videos sometimes have problems. And the save menu is a little strange...
So I think I may play more of the game in the original resolution until the fixes are better. And use GeDoSaTo when I see a really pretty place or scene that I want to take a picture of.
Fred Fredriksson
Unconfirmed Member
any ideas how to get rid of black bars like this:
http://i.imgur.com/pUKFv8Q.jpg
when i use durantes fix, they are gone, but i don' see the map or button prompts.
so is there a way to get rid of the bars without gedosato?
http://i.imgur.com/pUKFv8Q.jpg
when i use durantes fix, they are gone, but i don' see the map or button prompts.
so is there a way to get rid of the bars without gedosato?
HolyBaikal
Banned
Oh dear. My screenshots are really compressed.
Is there a good place for me to upload bigger .png images?
Is there a good place for me to upload bigger .png images?
Ah, thanks for reposting.
Oh god, this version is really going to end up a patchwork of user fixes if so. I'm getting flashbacks of FF VII PC, where you can replace cinema scenes and music with the PS1 files, among other things.