t-storm
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It's funny how how Square links to the Amazon pre-order page from YouTube which lists the release date as December 2015.
(Square's likely oblivious. Or master trolling us all).
Final Fantasy XV Gamescom Active Time Report - CNN reporting live from disaster scene
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(Square's likely oblivious. Or master trolling us all).
QuantumZebra
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The only boom is gonna be the last of the fanboys/girls heads exploding in disappointment
Megidolaon
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Yeah, plus Tabata created Rem. D:
Then again, Nomura created Kairi. But he also created Aqua, so...
Kwansu Dudes
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Can someone post the photo of Hajime Tabata drinking beer? I've seen it in one of these FFXV threads and am having trouble tracking it down.
Thank you so much, Chozen. and Raven777 for making it.
Thank you so much, Chozen. and Raven777 for making it.
People said it was going to be a mess and that's what it looks like at this very moment.
chozen
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The story of XV's development will be more interesting than the actual game's story. I hope someone releases a tell-all (and the game's worth of deleted assets and story ideas).
I am proud the image i made (just cropping lol) is getting used a lot here.
MagnaderAlpha
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Yups, I call BS
One scene, Stella's schmoozing with Noctis at a party, the other, she's running with a concerned expression on her face then sees Noctis, brandishes her rapier and strikes a pose agatinst Noctis's pose. That's ALL there is to Stella. What Nomura said about her being a strong character is talk, just like Tabata saying Luna is a strong. Other than that, both of them, there's really nothing more to either of them at the moment.
1. Sitting in a chair is just that, sitting in a chair. She's awaiting Noctis, that we know, but to what context this meeting will hold is still a mystery. They are to be married, but is that the "full extent" of the arrangement? Is it so "clear" an objective, or is there more than meets the eye?
2. Kids are worthless, er, all those who let themselves be bullied and overpowered by a full-grown adult. No wonder Hyne found it so easy wiping them out, and why Freddy Krueger racked up the kills on Elm Street. I'll just say it like this, the majority of us, at that age, would probably get bitchslapped just as hard(or even harder) by an adult man in heavy armor.
She doesn't seem weak or in need of saving in the artwork at the end of Episode Duscae, though. She's all fucked up, but still going on instead of sitting and crying. Holding what could possibly be a key item she needs to deliver to Noctis (?)
She looks like a survivor.
theofficefan99
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Okay, now I'm getting really tired of everyone being dramatic and overreacting whilst making billions of assumptions.
Er... how do you know Tabata had 0 reason? Do you think he just likes to make his life harder for fun?
Self-inserting? In what way? He was tasked as the new director and is now trying his best to make XV into the best game that's actually possible to release.
Borderline rape? Was that even necessary? You're just being overdramatic at this point.
Er... how do you know Tabata had 0 reason? Do you think he just likes to make his life harder for fun?
Self-inserting? In what way? He was tasked as the new director and is now trying his best to make XV into the best game that's actually possible to release.
Borderline rape? Was that even necessary? You're just being overdramatic at this point.
The ATR itself was a disaster.
But arranged spouse means nothing about her character. In fact, doesn't that mean that she doesn't necessarily dedicates her own desires torwards a man, and is only marrying him because it is her job to do so? Stella loved Noctis out of her own will, she depends more on a male love interest to build her character than Luna.
It could still mean that she's just the prize waifu as well, while Stella was a woman who went after the man she wanted out of her own will, but arranged marriage or not says nothing. People will choose to interpret this however they see fit.
I'll agree with "then why don't you show her doing the stuff you say she does?", though.
She always looked like Stella, so much that people still believed it was just a slight design change and she was still Stella, until the devs confirmed that wasn't the case. It's not making her look like Stella in that art specifically, she just looks like Stella period.
Finale Fireworker
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I also hate the name Luna.
Is Tabata trolling?
No joke. "We know exactly what kind of character she was based off 30 seconds of footage and a brief description."
Yabberwocky
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Tabata, you're saying the right things re: Luna, but I wanna see the receipts!
Tabata's track record with female characters in the past hasn't been the best, which is why people are a bit paranoid. I've personally still never gotten over Aya's treatment in The 3rd Birthday. (It isn't like Nomura is leagues better, mind you, but it seemed like he was trying something new with Stella, at least. It's pretty depressing, Nomura forgets women exist, whilst Tabata remembers, but then sticks them in creepy voyeuristic scenes.)
Tabata's track record with female characters in the past hasn't been the best, which is why people are a bit paranoid. I've personally still never gotten over Aya's treatment in The 3rd Birthday. (It isn't like Nomura is leagues better, mind you, but it seemed like he was trying something new with Stella, at least. It's pretty depressing, Nomura forgets women exist, whilst Tabata remembers, but then sticks them in creepy voyeuristic scenes.)
ArchedThunder
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It only "looks like a mess" because the game was revealed too damn early, the changes that typically happen behind the scenes are just happening in front of our eyes. People are overreacting somethin fierce, ya'll should just calm down.
People aren't being given the reasoning for these changes and thus they assume they are for no reason, when instead they just don't want to tell us the reason for these changes. Changes like these are things that are usually explained after the game has actually come out.
He could had just took Stella and gave her the same role Luna had. -_-
Literally no reason.
Look at the 2 minutes of cuddling, the changes the characters and world. He is making this his angsty pubescent desire. If you ever read other people's writing you'd understand. *The 2nd Ghost Rider movie is a good example of self insertion with the one teenage boy.*
The Last One
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I'm pretty sure Tabata has access to the game's script. But if you prefer to believe Luna is weak based on nothing, then go on ahead.
That sounds good! I actually thought about this before and how interesting that would be.
Not the weirdest fandom Ive seen even in final fantasy, but how some seem emotional attached is a bit funny/weird.
Honestly probably the best hing to do now with Vs13 is to just move on let it go, let it go.
kenji_sama
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Tabata said Stella was a weak character? Oh, come on, E3 scene shows Stella holding Noctis's hand and running and Her quote implies she is strong and active girl.
i have no idea Why he always downplays the previous works of VSXIII.
i have no idea Why he always downplays the previous works of VSXIII.
Her potential was really great. Even if it was squandered in the actual game(which we will never know), what i've seen of her for the past 10 years was much more appealing than what i see of Luna now.
And Tabata may change my mind in the full game. But what he shows now of the game and her doesn't really inspire any optimism.
I want him to surprise me with this game, but we don't even have nailed down concepts, or a solid year for release date, along with the performance at this stage even at 900p, its looking rough in more than a few ways.
People are not the one to blame though. They revealed the game. And they did it cause they were fucking late after a dev hell and they had to. The situation they are in, is the result of their own choices.
1. Exactly, it's just sitting in a chair and that's also my problem with it. I mean, if you want me to believe that your character is strong and independet, let them do something significant and show me that instead of a pretty character model.
2. Seems like a nice opportunity to actually show that Luna is independent and not afraid to stand up for her beliefs. I mean, yeah, I get the point: They want to juxtapose Luna's and Noctis's upbringing, but that's not how you introduce a strong character.
I just have a hard time believing that Luna is this incredibly strong person that Tabata wants us to believe she is from what they've shown so far. Surely there must be a better way to introduce her to us instead of those two scenes.
YankeeDonB
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Pretty good encapsulation. I'm glad you've decided to stay among the living!
It really is. I hope a psych major gets a dissertation out of this.
DiipuSurotu
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Lunafreya.
I know it's the internet and all but my post was meant to be humorous, friend. lol
Of course I don't think he's lying but the contrast in what we see and what Tabata says is legitimately funny.
I doubt Nomura going to change the battle system that much from turn based to action.
chozen
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At this point, why is anyone believing Tabata? He is downplaying Versus XIII so subtlety, and he lied from the day he showed up as director up until recent moments. Ask me if I have to prove if he lied since TGS 2014 till today.
He seen all the script and everything by now, but even if he knows the old script it doesn't mean he has to tell us.
He seen all the script and everything by now, but even if he knows the old script it doesn't mean he has to tell us.
MagnaderAlpha
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If Nomura's TRUE vision is to be realized, no she didn't. Well, at least NOT like you think. That's why I always called bullshit on the whole "Romeo & Juliet" crap. They were meant to be good friends and there was never meant to be a romance between them. If anything, that looks like something they might actually be changing. They might've chiseled a romance sub-plot into XV that wasn't originally in Versus. Nomura seemed more interested in expanding the deep bonds between friends(Noctis and buds as well as Noctis and Stella). And this is someone giving Luna the benefit of the doubt.
This won't stop until Nomura makes Stella Returns: Final Fantasy XV, where Stella is the main character on is on a quest to save every FFXV character except New!Regis and Luna (because she's the final boss) and take them to the real world of the Versus epic.
I would totally buy that game
QuantumZebra
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The level of apology for this game is mind-numbing. I mean come on - this game was announced in 2006. Just because it changed hands in 2012/13 doesn't mean anything. They essentially reworked 6 years of input/work and came up with something that from the LOOKS of it, is even worse. This isn't overreaction, if anything people aren't reacting with the animosity that I would expect.
Exactly. I'll post this again:
This guy:
Became this guy:
Can you even imagine the kind of meltdown that would go on if that change happened in front of our eyes instead of just getting to know it long after it was already done?
I still really wish we got the original Rufus design though, looks cool as fuck, they could reuse him as a new character.
Completely agree with that.
Are you sure they were just meant to be friends? That's actually news to me.
The Last One
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If VII Remake gets transformed into something Versus XIII supposed to be we will have an even bigger meltdown.
MegamanXZero
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This won't stop until Nomura makes Stella Returns: Final Fantasy XV, where Stella is the main character on is on a quest to save every FFXV character except New!Regis and Luna (because she's the final boss) and take them to the real world of the Versus epic.
I would totally buy that game
When can I buy this?
xxdoshiyarovexx
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I agree, it sounds really good. I think they are purposely downplaying Luna. It's kind of unfair to judge her based on trailers, I'm gonna wait till I play the game, I'm sure she's a badass who will grow with the plot XD;
This won't stop until Nomura makes Stella Returns: Final Fantasy XV, where Stella is the main character on is on a quest to save every FFXV character except New!Regis and Luna (because she's the final boss) and take them to the real world of the Versus epic.
I would totally buy that game
I need this now
Exactly. I'll post this again:
This guy:
Became this guy:
Can you even imagine the kind of meltdown that would go on if that change happened in front of our eyes instead of just getting to know it long after it was already done?
I still really wish we got the original Rufus design though, looks cool as fuck, they could reuse him as a new character.
Thats easily the worst character design change Ive seen, surprised they never made that design dlc.
QuantumZebra
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This won't stop until Nomura makes Stella Returns: Final Fantasy XV, where Stella is the main character on is on a quest to save every FFXV character except New!Regis and Luna (because she's the final boss) and take them to the real world of the Versus epic.
I would totally buy that game
I would definitely be more hyped for this than the current whatever we have
Fall 2019 in an alternate reality
;_;
Seven Force
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