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[gofreak]

Sorry if this is old - news is scattered all over the place so it's possible. I had a search through the Sony press conference thread but couldn't come up with these.

Anyway, from Watch Impress:

And the final PS3 tool..

Can anyone clarify the "XDR512MB" in the last slide? Isn't is 256MB XDR + 256MB GDDR3, or is this a change?

 

[RuGalz]

Dev kit typically have more memory than retail system.

 

[ToyMachine228]

That looks like my grandmother's air conditioner :lol

 

[Doom_Bringer]

shit the final dev kit looks like revolution XD

 

[Timen]

cool, you can probably mount that thing in a 19" rack, that means you COULD mount at least 10 of those babies.

SIGN ME UP!

 

[Guy LeDouche]

Sorry if this is old - news is scattered all over the place so it's possible. I had a search through the Sony press conference thread but couldn't come up with these.

Can anyone clarify the "XDR512MB" in the last slide? Isn't is 256MB XDR + 256MB GDDR3, or is this a change?

I'm pretty sure final dev kits have more ram than the retail counterparts.

Cool pics. I'll take 7.

e: if they stick to their schedule (which they have so far), that will give devs 3-4 months before a Spring '06 launch. If it works like the PS2, US devs will have 8-9 months.

 

[llTll]

Dev kit typically have more memory than retail system.

i dont think so

:/

 

[dorio]

Should be plenty of time for a March release.

 

[DarienA]

heh the final dev kit looks like a Snap Server or any other rack type server.

 

[cyberheater]

That rack mounted PS3 devkit looks better then the breadbin version we've seen of late. I'd take one.

 

[gofreak]

i dont think so

:/

Actually, this is true sometimes.

What threw me off is there's no mention of the GDDR. But 512MB of XDR with the GDDR in the final system makes reasonable sense.

 

[sonycowboy]

HUGE NEWS!!:: Dev Kits to include HDD standard!!!

:lol

 

[Dr Zhivago]

Bit disappointed. Sony's dev hardware is usually much better looking

 

[pcostabel]

i dont think so

:/

Yes, the PS2 devkit has 128Mb.

 

[BirdySky]

Any chance we'll be seeing a yaroze/ya basic type thing this time around? All that power...It will be mine.

 

[ThirdEye]

They laughed at the 2nd version as "huge!!!!!!!!" when the pic appeared before, now if they witnessed the 1st version instead at that time... :lol

 

[llTll]

Actually, this is true sometimes.

What threw me off is there's no mention of the GDDR. But 512MB of XDR with the GDDR in the final system makes reasonable sense.

oh well. maybe i am mistaken. or maybe sony increased the ram for ps3.

they did that with PSP i think.

 

[Nightbringer]

It is more beatiful than the horrible PStool.

 

[gofreak]

Old?

Looks like they're going to have a specific exhibition ala the PS2 one in early 2000 in Japan.

 

[jett]

Dev kit typically have more memory than retail system.

Yep. Hell, even Bungie forgets that sometimes, haha.

edit: Hmm seems like they've changed the PS3 case a little bit.

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

The white PS3 is hot! They better sell that on launch day.

 

[littlewig]

Man, the system and controller needs a redesign, it is probably the worst looking Sony product to date.

 

[element]

I wonder how large the power supply is going to be for the PS3

 

[Solid]

The black PS3 is hot! They better sell that on launch day.

fixed

 

[Dr_Cogent]

heh the final dev kit looks like a Snap Server or any other rack type server.

That's what I was thinking.

 

[AB 101]

PS2 Dev kit along with PSP Dev kit

 

[gofreak]

The white PS3 is hot! They better sell that on launch day.

Agreed. I'm kind of confused why they're still showing it, though, since last I read, Kutaragi was quoted as saying that SCEI had decided since E3 on just the silver version. Maybe they're rethinking..but unfortunately I think it's likely we'll only see one colour at launch.

 

[IntestineBoy]

I just got pics back from my source in Japan, who works at Sony. He had to take these with his camera phone, but he says this is THE REAL final dev kit. These other ones are just alpha kits, they don't harness the full power of the PS3.

http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/Reckoners-114.jpg

 

[AB 101]

I wonder how large the power supply is going to be for the PS3

Rumors put the 360 one as pretty phat so I would expect the PS3 one to be pretty large as well.

 

[AB 101]

Agreed. I'm kind of confused why they're still showing it, though, since last I read, Kutaragi was quoted as saying that SCEI had decided since E3 on just the silver version. Maybe they're rethinking..but unfortunately I think it's likely we'll only see one colour at launch.

Black would integrate into my A/V rack much better.

Oh well.

Thats whats nice about the 360. You can slap a cheesy black plastic faceplate on it and presto!

Black XBox 360. Well, partly anyways.

 

[Forsete]

Black PS3 for teh win.

PS2 black (one old, one slim), GC black, PSP black.... PS3 black!

 

[Chittagong]

edit: Hmm seems like they've changed the PS3 case a little bit.

What's the difference? I'm not as eagle-eyed

 

[TheDuce22]

So I guess the controller design is final now?

 

[IntestineBoy]

So I guess the controller design is final now?

it says 'conceptual' on the little tag

 

[LakeEarth]

Haha, so many logos.

 

[teiresias]

What's the logo between the DVD-ROM logo and the Compact Disc logo?

 

[gofreak]

Looks like we'll hopefully be saying bye-bye to any PS3 dev kit shortages by Oct/Nov.


They got green ducks:

 

[Guy LeDouche]

What's the logo between the DVD-ROM logo and the Compact Disc logo?

SACD, or Super Audio Compact Disc.

5.1 CD, basically.

 

[Chittagong]

Looks like we'll hopefully be saying bye-bye to any PS3 dev kit shortages by Oct/Nov.


They got green ducks:

Good slides, thanks. Two things catch my eye:

- They are behind Xbox 360 in terms of tool delivery a LOT. Not a year, but almost
- What's the point of DirectX vs. OpenGL ES slide?

 

[teiresias]

Heaven forbid Dev kit shipments for a console shipping next year be behind a console shipping in like 3 or less months.

 

[gofreak]

Good slides, thanks. Two things catch my eye:

- They are behind Xbox 360 in terms of tool delivery a LOT. Not a year, but almost

Do you mean in terms of dev kit delivery? MS has had lots of kit out, but nowhere near as final as the 3000+ PS3 kits in Nov will be. I'm sure MS will have similar numbers, or more, of final X360 kits by that time, but in terms of final kits, Sony is only trailing MS by maybe 4 months (assuming final X360 kits hit in Aug). About the same as the gap between releases, so it seems reasonable.

I was quite worried about how many kits Sony would get out this year, but that they even have a plan for large numbers is a relief (hopefully they'll execute well on that now).

Re. the slide with DX on it etc. I think they were just highlighting how their pipeline is "open" etc.

 

[Virgin Wii]

This is the best pic of PS3 that I've seen. I thought the system was fugly with a capital 'F' before, but this looks nice.

 

[teiresias]

They still need to exorcise the Spider-man font and put a silver PS3 on top in the same font as the PS2 on top of the PS2.

 

[sangreal]

Before E3 Microsoft had shipped ~4000 alpha kits.

If Sony gets out 3000 by October that puts them on a similar schedule. These projections seem to be for non-RSX kits as those aren't due until December.

 

[element]

Before E3 Microsoft had shipped ~4000 alpha kits.

If Sony gets out 3000 by October that puts them on a similar schedule. These projections seem to be for non-RSX kits as those aren't due until December.

Kits are one thing, but Xbox360 devs had had specs to work with for almost 18 months, and end tools like PIX and other goodies

 

[Chittagong]

Kits are one thing, but Xbox360 devs had had specs to work with for almost 18 months, and end tools like PIX and other goodies

So how much behind would you say Sony is? Of course Sony and MS have different approaches so they aren't directly comparable. Still, considering what is known about ongoing development, my estimate is around 9 months, substantiating the "BS!!" yell my intuition shouted in May when I heard the "Spring 2006" street date.

They could make Spring in Japan like they did with PSP with some quick games, though.

What really puzzles me is that I don't quite understand what is the bottleneck component putting them so much behind in schedule. Cell exists and the NVIDIA tech exists, assuming G70 is very close.

 

[element]

I think about 9 month is about right. Sony is doing some really smart things though, like including Unreal Engine 3 and various other middleware to allow developers to rapidly get content up and running.

 

[Bluemercury]

The white one is fantastic but they need to get rid of that font......yuck......

 

[cubicle47b]

Awesome, I want one. That thing is ridiculous.

 

[jett]

What's the difference? I'm not as eagle-eyed

They've added a metallic strip and recolored the Blu-ray drive black on all models.