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[Rentahamster]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/first-genetically-engineered-salmon-sold-in-canada/

US firm AquaBounty Technologies says that its transgenic fish has hit the market after a 25-year wait

Genetically engineered salmon has reached the dinner table. AquaBounty Technologies, the company in Maynard, Massachusetts, that developed the fish, announced on August 4 that it has sold some 4.5 tons of its hotly debated product to customers in Canada.
The sale marks the first time that a genetically engineered animal has been sold for food on the open market. It took AquaBounty more than 25 years to get to this point.

The fish, a variety of Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar), is engineered to grow faster than its non-genetically modified counterpart, reaching market size in roughly half the time — about 18 months. AquaBounty sold its first commercial batch at market price: US$5.30 per pound ($11.70 per kilogram), says Ron Stotish, the company’s chief executive. He would not disclose who bought it.

AquaBounty formed around the technology in the early 1990s and approached regulators in the United States soon after. It then spent almost 25 years in regulatory limbo. The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the salmon for consumption in November 2015, and Canadian authorities came to the same decision six months later. Neither country requires the salmon to be labelled as genetically engineered.
But unlike in Canada, political battles in the United States have stalled the salmon’s entry into the marketplace. The law setting out the US government’s budget for fiscal year 2017 includes a provision that instructs the FDA to forbid the sale of transgenic salmon until it has developed a programme to inform consumers that they are buying a genetically engineered product. Senator Lisa Murkowski (Republican, Alaska), who inserted the provision, has called AquaBounty’s salmon “fake fish”.

Farmed salmon can potentially lower prices and help reduce overfishing in our oceans. The usual anti-GMO activists will still complain, however.

https://phys.org/news/2017-08-sale-genetically-salmon-canada-alarms.html

Environmentalists charged Monday that genetically modified salmon are being marketed in Canada without warning labels and called on supermarkets to withdraw them from sale.
"The first genetically modified animals have arrived in the market and Canadian consumers are becoming, unwittingly, the first guinea pigs," said Thibault Rehn of the group Vigilance OGM.
On Friday, US company AquaBounty Technologies announced that it has sold about five tonnes of genetically modified salmon filets in Canada, after receiving a green light from food and health authorities.
The Health Ministry and the Canadian Food Inspection Agency ruled in May, after three years of testing, that the genetically modified salmon is "as safe and nutritious as conventional salmon."

Previous GAF threads on this issue:
The FDA approves... a salmon

FDA approves genetically modified salmon. Grows 2x fast, all female to avoid breeding

Frankenfish or super salmon? FDA to decide (what can possibly go wrong??)

Would you eat genetically modified salmon? I would. Especially if it's cheaper and/or has less mercury than wild salmon. Modify the fish to have even better nutrition next, please.

 

[Peru]

"developed the fish" is a nice phrase

 

[ponpo]

Senator Lisa Murkowski (Republican, Alaska), who inserted the provision, has called AquaBounty's salmon ”fake fish".

HeH

Would you eat genetically modified salmon?

Sure, after the Canadians beta test it for me.

 

[Preezy]

Good news, as OP says this could be the start of reducing fishing out in the oceans. I'd eat this.

 

[kami_sama]

I am still a little concerned about cross-breeding with wild salmons, but I welcome that the world is starting to get a little less weary about transgenics.

 

[Aselith]

HeH



Sure, after the Canadians beta test it for me.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Its pretty cool we're coming up with all this GE meat since once we fuck up the planet and kill off all wildlife, we'll be ready.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

I've been playing too much Splatoon. I read that as Salmonid.

 

[rSpooky]

The gmo scare is a bit our of control really. I hope that in the future this is less of an issue and we can better deal with the food demands of the world. If people do not have to worry if they have something to eat that day it might also reduce conflict and wars.

 

[Sesuadra]

how does the taste, firmness of the meat etc compare to "normal" and slower grown salmon?

and, as long as they're grown in tanks and will never get out into nature I'm good. if the mouthfeel of the meat is the same.

I am still a little concerned about cross-breeding with wild salmons, but I welcome that the world is starting to get a little less weary about transgenics.

100% security that never one of the fishes gets out in the wild is definitely a must. or are they all infertile?

 

[Luigi87]

I've been playing too much Splatoon. I read that as Salmonid.

This is what Mr. Grizz has been needing those eggs for.

 

[Sunster]

I heard somewhere that fish farms are destroying wild salmon. guess I gotta look it up.

 

[Aztechnology]

Seriously though, I'm totally on board with this.

 

[massoluk]

Who do I throw money at to get in on this?

 

[Jerry]

The day I can buy genetically engineered pork which is nothing but crackling is the day I die happy.

 

[Pankratous]

Genetically engineered as in took a normal already existing fish and did some genetic voodoo on it, or genetically engineered as in grown in a lab, never previously existed fish?

Sorry I'm a science noob.

 

[Aztechnology]

Genetically engineered as in took a normal already existing fish and did some genetic voodoo on it, or genetically engineered as in grown in a lab, never previously existed fish?

Sorry I'm a science noob.

The fish, a variety of Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar), is engineered to grow faster than its non-genetically modified counterpart

The former.

 

[Branduil]

Soon

 

[massoluk]

Found it, AQB on NASDAQ, I'm going in

 

[Syf]

Can they modify taste? Can I have steak fish?

 

[Sunster]

Found it, AQB on NASDAQ, I'm going in

trueeeeeeeeee

 

[nelsonroyale]

'Grow faster' more like 'grow fatter'.

I am against most industrial salmon farming as it currently stands. Coming from Scotland where our wild salmon have been decimated compared to historic stock, and whitnissing the growth of commercial fish farming, where the migratory species are kept in shitty conditions, get obese, and taste oily and fatty compared to the wild variety, makes me shake my head. These genetics of these captive fish has already been manipulated, through breeding and forced selection, and they are pumped full of antibiotics. The fact that the wild stock continues a negative trend and these farmed varieties continue to burdgeon is revolting in my opinion.

It is not primarily genetic modification in and of itself, it is the much of the industry behind it which is out of wack with sustainability science...

Anyway, a lot of the genetic work in foods is ultimately profit driven, it bores me and I am not really in favour of it. Much more interested in potentially of genetic engineering to create bio-materials, etc... that is where the greater benefits are, which don't simply emerge from unsustainable management practices, shoring up inequitable access to food, fuelling increased consumption for ultimately profit driven motifs...You can see that I am more in line with ecoligical economic thinking, than the pathological growth mentality of free market economics...

 

[Westbahnhof]

Genetically engineered as in took a normal already existing fish and did some genetic voodoo on it, or genetically engineered as in grown in a lab, never previously existed fish?

Sorry I'm a science noob.

They'd call it "lab grown" if it were the latter.
It's just fancy breeding, in the end.

I'd buy it.

 

[Tenck]

Can they modify taste? Can I have steak fish?

Japan has you covered. If I'm remembering correctly they bred some salmon to taste sweeter like fruit. I believe it was strawberry.

 

[Syf]

Japan has you covered. If I'm remembering correctly they bred some salmon to taste sweeter like fruit. I believe it was strawberry.

Maybe the future isn't so dark.

 

[Aztechnology]

Found it, AQB on NASDAQ, I'm going in

Article was reproduced and reposted from here on the 4th, which begs the question. Why has their stock really only seen a tiny jump. Over the last month they've made a solid jump, however they effectively hit an all time low early this month before making about a 14% jump over the last few days. Suprisingly low jump for this kind of news.

http://www.nature.com/news/first-genetically-engineered-salmon-sold-in-canada-1.22116

 

[Machina]

 

[PingPongvonLaserstein]

Japan has you covered. If I'm remembering correctly they bred some salmon to taste sweeter like fruit. I believe it was strawberry.

That sounds horrifying.

 

[nelsonroyale]

That sounds horrifying.

It is mixed into their feed it seems: http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/10/...with-the-natural-flavor-of-oranges-and-herbs/

 

[donkey show]

I've been playing too much Splatoon. I read that as Salmonid.

I read the OP with the Salmon Run theme playing in the background: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d6n4MSLC8E

 

[PingPongvonLaserstein]

It is mixed into their feed it seems: http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/10/...with-the-natural-flavor-of-oranges-and-herbs/

That article is interesting, but I was more referring to strawberry salmon as a flavor.

 

[Xe4]

Cool shit. That type of GMO salmon has been under development for a damn long while now. It's good to see it finally reach market.

 

[sinxtanx]

it's just another fish

I don't go around calling mackerel "FAKE TROUT" and refuse to eat it

 

[Circinus]

Farmed salmon can potentially lower prices and help reduce overfishing in our oceans. The usual anti-GMO activists will still complain, however.

https://phys.org/news/2017-08-sale-genetically-salmon-canada-alarms.html



Previous GAF threads on this issue:
The FDA approves... a salmon

FDA approves genetically modified salmon. Grows 2x fast, all female to avoid breeding

Frankenfish or super salmon? FDA to decide (what can possibly go wrong??)

Would you eat genetically modified salmon? I would. Especially if it's cheaper and/or has less mercury than wild salmon. Modify the fish to have even better nutrition next, please.

Good news, as OP says this could be the start of reducing fishing out in the oceans. I'd eat this.

Erm what? Just saying but fish farming, salmon farming most notably is notoriously bad for environment and for local fish populations. Farmed salmons are fed fishmeal and most of the fish in fishmeal is wild-caught.. (and it isn't just bycatch, fish (anchovies, mackerel, pollock, sprat etc) are specifically fished to processed to be fishmeal and fish oil). So farmed salmon does not reduce pressure on wild fisheries at all.

Still, this is not an argument against GMO of course, but an argument against salmon farming. I guess this GMO salmon still represents a step in the good direction since it requires less feed for same growth, but it's probably still futile since it just a very inefficient and environmentally-unfriendly method of food production. And if it puts more pressure to lower prices of farmed salmon, leading to higher consumptions then obviously in the end the environmental impact increases.


If you're concerned about overfishing it's undoubtedly much better to not eat fish at all, or to eat farmed shellfish (bivalves only, not crustaceans) like oysters, clams, mussels (these have actually a very positive ecological impact). Or eat sustainably caught fish that is on a low trophic level like anchovy, sardines, herring etc.

 

[Jill Sandwich]

Okjaaaaaaa!

 

[Conciliator]

i heard they put genetically engineered salmon in vaccines.

 

[RangerX]

Could be the origin of salmon man.

 

[Sushi Nao]

Hey guys, bit of undeserved negative perception floating around in here about salmon farming that I'd like to address - but it's 3 am out on the farm right now, I'll try to get to it tomorrow.

 

[Frankfurter]

FDA approves genetically modified salmon. Grows 2x fast, all female to avoid breeding

*Life finds a way.gif*

 

[Anarion07]

Good.

 

[The Mule]

How much autism did they inject in this fish?

 

[ahoyhoy]

Soon

👍

 

[poppedcollar69]

they need to get to work on ge cows that fart less

 

[Rentahamster]

Erm what? Just saying but fish farming, salmon farming most notably is notoriously bad for environment and for local fish populations. Farmed salmons are fed fishmeal and most of the fish in fishmeal is wild-caught.. (and it isn't just bycatch, fish (anchovies, mackerel, pollock, sprat etc) are specifically fished to processed to be fishmeal and fish oil). So farmed salmon does not reduce pressure on wild fisheries at all.

These salmon grow up faster which means they eat less food in their lifetime. They also respond favorably to plant based fish meal, and more research is being done for alternatives to traditional fish meal.

Progress is occurring.

 

[Rentahamster]

Hey guys, bit of undeserved negative perception floating around in here about salmon farming that I'd like to address - but it's 3 am out on the farm right now, I'll try to get to it tomorrow.

If you still feel like writing about your perspective on this topic, I'd still love to read it

 

[sixteen-bit]

I like salmon a lot but was always kinda concerned about mercury levels. Interested to see where this goes.

 

[darscot]

I wish I liked salmon I would try this for sure.

 

[Prototype Viktor]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/first-genetically-engineered-salmon-sold-in-canada/

US firm AquaBounty Technologies says that its transgenic fish has hit the market after a 25-year wait






Farmed salmon can potentially lower prices and help reduce overfishing in our oceans. The usual anti-GMO activists will still complain, however.

https://phys.org/news/2017-08-sale-genetically-salmon-canada-alarms.html



Previous GAF threads on this issue:
The FDA approves... a salmon

FDA approves genetically modified salmon. Grows 2x fast, all female to avoid breeding

Frankenfish or super salmon? FDA to decide (what can possibly go wrong??)

Would you eat genetically modified salmon? I would. Especially if it's cheaper and/or has less mercury than wild salmon. Modify the fish to have even better nutrition next, please.

I want GMO everything so yes. The alternative is to fix overpopulation and I'll take that over literally everything on the planet

 

[stuminus3]

Do genetically engineered fish have feelings?

 

[darscot]

Do genetically engineered fish have feelings?

The real question is do the dream of GMO sheep?