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First Impressions of ER-6i Cans from Etymotics

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miyuru

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So I received, finally, some earphones to replace the stock phones I got with my N10 MD player back like 3 years ago or something (it's the anniversary edition recorder from Sony).

Anyway, I haven't really tried them with my MD, or outside. Currently, I've only used them with my PC. And let me tell you...as of now they seem overrated.

I'm not saying these are bad, not by any means. But all the reviews I read claimed that they were worth the price. To be honest, I'm not impressed, but I'm satisfied by my stock earphones, the only problem being they never quite fit in my ear properly, and sound isolation wasn't the greatest.

Of course, these are the two things the ER6i's are known for - sound quality and isolation (note the ER-4Ps are the cream of the crop, well, apparently). I'll start off with what I was underwhelmed with - sound quality.

After adjusting my EQ a bit in Winamp, I noticed the biggest difference was in the treble - much much clearer. When listening to live recordings of high quality (I tested out some Smashing Pumpkins songs) the difference was quite obvious. Sounds way better. After a while once you get accustomed to the fit of the cans, the sound almost feels as if it's in your head, sorta hard to explain but if you've heard higher end phones you'll know what I mean.

However with urban music, the differences aren't so significant. Considering I paid $100USD for these, I was expecting a huge difference over the shitty headphones I normally use with my PC (not even a gold plated plug; note I'm not referring to my stock MD cans). I find that there's less bass, though clarity is improved. What I'm saying is, the bass is.....well, let's say adequate with the volume at normal levels. However, it doesn't really overshadow the rest of the music - it all plays out quite nicely, in that you can hear all frequencies quite equally, which is really awesome. So it's just a different kind of sound - generally less bass, but much more balanced.

The $100 USD I paid doesn't just go towards sound quality - it also goes towards isolation. And holy shit, these are incredible. I'll probably just plug them in when I'm studying if people are talking in a library (though isolation is increased when you play music, for obvious reasons). My prime example is that my dad was on the treadmill behind me, which is quite loud, and on top of that he had the TV turned up quite a bit so he could hear it over the treadmill. Anyway here I was listening to music about 4 feet away - I couldn't hear the treadmill, the TV, anything, just the music. I can't hear myself typing at all right now.

Of course, there are several disadvantages to such isolation. Try plugging your ears and talking - the sound sorta reverberates within your head. Also, if you move the cords around of the headphone, you can hear the movement as it is transmitted through the cord to the cans. The worst part is - these things aren't the most comfortable. They really stretch out your ears. At first I had this near-burning sensation but became accustomed to it after after about an hour.

Regardless of the above, I mainly wanted to buy these for listening to music on the fly - on the bus to school, walking around campus, etc.. And with such isolation, they should work *perfect*, especially on the bus when there's nothing to hear anyway :lol

Can't wait to try them out, out of the house.

For the price.......I'd give these an 8/10. A fair price for these would be about $80USD. Still, I don't feel ripped off paying $100. However, I would at the MSRP of $150.
 

Great King Bowser

Property of Kaz Harai
Yeah, I'd definitely give them time to burn-in.

Plug them into your stereo and leave it on just over your normal listening level over-night.

Never tried the Etymotics, but I know with Shure e2Cs I didn't really have a problem with bass. And I'm sure I read that ER-6is compensated for the low bass of iPods so would've assumed they'd be more bassy than the e2Cs.
 

miyuru

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Yeah ER6i's have more bass than the regular ER6s, though either way, there's like......so little bass. I thought an in-ear earphone would have more bass, it's the same effect as pushing in your regular earphones into your ears isn't it?

Hopefully this problem gets better after burning them in.

Also, I find the foam more comfortable than the flanges, I think I'll just use those. BTW, how often do you find filters must be replaced?
 
I went and tried those Shure's we were talking about earlier (the in-ear model). Nothing dramatically different from my Sony in-ear headphones. You pay more for something you REALLY have to concentrate on to hear a difference. Plus they look terrible and cheap. No thanks.
 

miyuru

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I find it fun to listen to orchestral-type music with the ER6is, because it feels like you're really there almost. Then again, I am there every night at work :lol
 

Great King Bowser

Property of Kaz Harai
God's Hand said:
I went and tried those Shure's we were talking about earlier (the in-ear model). Nothing dramatically different from my Sony in-ear headphones. You pay more for something you REALLY have to concentrate on to hear a difference. Plus they look terrible and cheap. No thanks.

Gonna depend on your ears really, but I own Sony EX71s and the artificial bassiness of them are terrible. I can definitely hear a difference.

You'd probably need more than just a short test of the Shures. Not sure why you think they're cheap looking tbh. The cabling is a lot more rugged and not cheap and thin like the Sonys, and over the ear is awesome.

To each their own though.
 
Some people just don't have a high fidelity for sound I guess. Anyway I'm not sure how long the time for burn in fro ety's are (some cans are 100's of hours) some give them 1 or 2 months and then come back to you Sony's. From what I hear you'll be impressed.
 
It's like that- it's quite weird after you listen to some decent headphones come accross an old song etc and then you gather all the neat production in the background. In short you ears get tuned in more.
 

miyuru

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Wow, for some reason (either something psychological, or something for real) they're sounding much nicer today :lol

Probably because I was using my old headphones most of the day, and now I just switched to the 6i - huge difference!

:lol I take it all back haha
 

fart

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you'll like them more as you get used to the flatter response (no more boom boom tis tis sorry) and as they break in.
 

Chrono

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I gave away the sony ex71s and got a Shure E2c a while ago.

I don't think I like in-ear headphones. :(

At first, with the ex71s it was awesome. The more I used it though, the more painful they got and more annoying. Anyway those weren't the 'good' type so I upgraded to the Shure E2cs and while they're better, I just can't even put them on. When I do, I never get good sound unless I let them pretty far into my ear which is annoying.

Oh and I have to clean them too. -_-


I'll stick with them now since I'm not made out of money (or I might start liking them), but a few months from now I want to buy regular ear-buds. Just like the ones that come with the ipod. Any recommendations? Wherever I go it seems in-ear phones are taking over.
 
Audio-Technica earbuds are pretty good

Yep I think miryu is talking about mx500/400's etc they're pretty good for the price (had a pair of these myself- was about AU$30 so must be like US$10- too bad the two pairs I had broke). Audio-Technica is more upmarket though I don't necessarily know if they're worth (fart\head-fi could tell you)

also fart's prolly got a ton more recommendations :)
 

miyuru

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I listened to some Sennheiser makes, not sure of the model though. Sounded pretty nice. He got them stock with a BenQ MP3 player (joybee or something). Even though they're stock, mos def. the best stock earphones I've heard :p
 

fart

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earbuds are pretty much crap. i have a pair of senns that are tolerable (mx450s or 550s or something like that anyways), but far from fantastic. if you want portable phones that are small and cheap i would go with a koss portapro derivative. if you absolutely have to have earbuds, it's a crapshoot. the senns are probably the most decent, but their design is hardly unique, so you may find some no names that sound about as good or a little better (the stock iriver h series phones are a good example of this). just don't spend a lot on earbuds or expect much from them.
 

miyuru

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:lol are you in the process of owning me fart? :p

To add to fart's post though, Koss Portapros themselves are a really great value.
 
Yeah, that's what usually happens. You listen to new headphones and while they're good, you're not blown away. But coming back to your old ones make you realize how horrible they were. In most cases, cheap cans have a constant hiss to them which any decent ones don't among other immediately noticeable qualities.

Anyway, I don't believe that canal phones benefit much from burn in. The ER6i isn't known for having much bass and while I haven't used them, some people say they have a somewhat thin sound to them. Their strength though is their incredible clarity and treble. I would guess that you'll become more used to the fit of them after a few days. I have to wear ear plugs at work everyday and the first couple of days sucked, but now there's absolutely no discomfort whatsoever. I don't know how these compare, but they shouldn't fit any tighter than regular ear plugs whose sole purpose is to provide isolation. Clipping or somehow fastening the cord to your shirt should help solve some of the microphonics.
 

miyuru

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Yeah they feel better already, I'm used to them :D It's too bad that there's not much more bass, as it affects each genre of music you listen to. So like, urban music takes a hit in general, while more acoustic stuff sounds 100X better, esp. live recordings.
 

Great King Bowser

Property of Kaz Harai
Chrono said:
I gave away the sony ex71s and got a Shure E2c a while ago.

I don't think I like in-ear headphones. :(

At first, with the ex71s it was awesome. The more I used it though, the more painful they got and more annoying. Anyway those weren't the 'good' type so I upgraded to the Shure E2cs and while they're better, I just can't even put them on. When I do, I never get good sound unless I let them pretty far into my ear which is annoying.

Oh and I have to clean them too. -_-


I'll stick with them now since I'm not made out of money (or I might start liking them), but a few months from now I want to buy regular ear-buds. Just like the ones that come with the ipod. Any recommendations? Wherever I go it seems in-ear phones are taking over.

http://www.shure.com/quietspot/quietspot_accessories.asp#SOFT

Check out the ultra-soft flex sleeves. They're meant to be pretty good. Might help, and you Americans get them nice and cheap.
 
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