First Reactions To Ant-Man

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I was fairly excited but wasn't expecting anything in particular, but thanks to these impressions and the latest trailer now hype is rising and i can't wait for this to be out, sounds like such a great time. Very interested to hear it's a very small-scale (heh) and more personal story, would be a nice change of pace from the last few Marvels. Do not want to spoil what the credit scenes are i want to be really surprised if they're as good as they say it is

The editing in that TV-spot is very Edgar Wright-y. If the movie feels similar to that then I can understand why one of the tweets mention it still feels like he was heavily involved.
 
Every single development in Phase 2 is paved over.

SHIELD was destroyed? Oh hey look a Helicarrier.
"Every single development"? lol

I assume you don't watch AoS where they explained where the Helicarrier, that hasn't been seen since Avengers 1, was being stored.

The only thing I saw being rewritten was Nick Fury burning his eye patch in TWS and going with sunglasses, then having a new patch in AoU.
 
Maybe I missed something but I thought Iron Man retired (blew up his suits) at the end of IM3 then he's back in full force in AoU (tower full of suits, back as Iron Man). I thought he still had to overcome his anxiety.
 
Maybe I missed something but I thought Iron Man retired (blew up his suits) at the end of IM3 then he's back in full force in AoU (tower full of suits, back as Iron Man). I thought he still had to overcome his anxiety.
He blew up unfinished/prototype suits he made nonstop while he had PTSD. The suits in Ultron are new crowd-control automatons controlled by Jarvis.
 
How did he get over PTSD though.
The events of IM3 helped him get over his anxiety and realize that "Tony Stark is Iron Man" with or without the suit. In IM3 he's forced to work on his issues without having the suit to fall back on, and later he even has to fight while only using separate pieces of it. In Ultron that can be seen followed upon with him leaving the suit behind in Sentry Mode during the initial sequence.

Not saying that IM3 is exactly the most realistic portrait of how getting over that sort of thing can be, but to me the way he was acting in AoU felt like a natural progression. He wasn't retiring, just switching gears. He's still worried about how to make things safer (Ultron program, crowd-control suits), he's just going about it in a less erratic manner than building crazy suits one after the other because he got over that nervous approach.
 
I doubt that it will be as good as Edgar Wright wanted it to be. Marvel did a horrible job with loosing him and that's the reason why I won't watch it.
 
According to El Mayimbe, this is what the end credit scenes consist of:

The first mid credits scene:Hank Pym (Michael Douglas) gives the WASP costume with wings to Hope Van Dyne (Evangeline Lilly). Hank explains to Hope what happened to Hope's mother Janet Van Dyne.

Final credits scene: The scene has Captain America, The Falcon, and The Winter Soldier. Cap and Falcon have located The Winter Soldier to a remote location where The Winter Soldier is tied up.

Falcon asks Cap "Should I call Stark?"

Cap replies "No."

Falcon replies "I know who to call." Implying Ant-Man.

In case you didn't know, Falcon is in Ant-Man in a few key scenes.

*Take it with a grain of salt

If this is true I am guessing it is the primary cause of Edgar Wright leaving since as far as I'm aware he just wanted this to be a standalone movie.
 
I doubt that it will be as good as Edgar Wright wanted it to be. Marvel did a horrible job with loosing him and that's the reason why I won't watch it.

But what if (and this might just blow everyone's minds here) the movie ends up being good anyway?

Edgar Wright's departure was a huge blow to the production, since he left at a critical moment when things were already in motion, but it's such a disservice to judge it completely based on losing Wright.
 
The events of IM3 helped him get over his anxiety and realize that "Tony Stark is Iron Man" with or without the suit. In IM3 he's forced to work on his issues without having the suit to fall back on, and later he even has to fight while only using separate pieces of it. In Ultron that can be seen followed upon with him leaving the suit behind in Sentry Mode during the initial sequence.

Not saying that IM3 is exactly the most realistic portrait of how getting over that sort of thing can be, but to me the way he was acting in AoU felt like a natural progression. He wasn't retiring, just switching gears. He's still worried about how to make things safer (Ultron program, crowd-control suits), he's just going about it in a less erratic manner than building crazy suits one after the other because he got over that nervous approach.

Right. Another way that I interpreted it was that Tony was internalizing the stress so much that he felt he had to make a suit for every circumstance and Iron Man was the only way he could insure the safety of everyone he cared about. When he blew up the suits, he realized that he didn't have to be everywhere himself. The remote control as a success. The house party protocol worked (and was a precursor to the Iron Legion).

When he decided to pick up where SHIELD left off, he puts a lot of his energy into outfitting his team with new tech. Even before that, he is working on SHIELD tech with the new Helicarriers.

His internally focused energy becomes external. It's another reason that him being able to remove his arc reactor from his heart was symbolic of him letting go of what is eating him from the inside. Unfortunately, that makes him think the next step is creating Ultron so everyone, not just him can go home. And beyond that in Civil War, we may see what Tony envisions for the world since Ultron failed.
 
If this is true I am guessing it is the primary cause of Edgar Wright leaving since as far as I'm aware he just wanted this to be a standalone movie.

The reason Wright left was because of tone. His draft allegedly had plenty of MCU connections/references.
 
Right. Another way that I interpreted it was that Tony was internalizing the stress so much that he felt he had to make a suit for every circumstance and Iron Man was the only way he could insure the safety of everyone he cared about. When he blew up the suits, he realized that he didn't have to be everywhere himself. The remote control as a success. The house party protocol worked (and was a precursor to the Iron Legion).

When he decided to pick up where SHIELD left off, he puts a lot of his energy into outfitting his team with new tech. Even before that, he is working on SHIELD tech with the new Helicarriers.

His internally focused energy becomes external. It's another reason that him being able to remove his arc reactor from his heart was symbolic of him letting go of what is eating him from the inside. Unfortunately, that makes him think the next step is creating Ultron so everyone, not just him can go home. And beyond that in Civil War, we may see what Tony envisions for the world since Ultron failed.
Good take on the whole thing. There's definitely more to Tony's character arc than people usually give it credit for.

I'm looking forward to where they'll take him with Civil War. I can say that the development of the MCU characters hasn't let me down so far, especially considering how these movies/shows try to be connected and standalone at the same time.
 
I generally agree that Age of Ultron is one of Marvel's weakest films but SHIELD is still around mind you, but assume you don't watch Agents of Shield?

Where in Agents of SHIELD did they rebuild to a level where they had a full staff and a Helicarrier equipped with life rafts? And "they had it in storage" is horribly lazy writing.
 
But what if (and this might just blow everyone's minds here) the movie ends up being good anyway?

Edgar Wright's departure was a huge blow to the production, since he left at a critical moment when things were already in motion, but it's such a disservice to judge it completely based on losing Wright.


I just don't want to live in a world where I might be pleased with that movie. I want to hate it and therefore I have to miss out on this movie as a Wright fanboy :P
 
Where in Agents of SHIELD did they rebuild to a level where they had a full staff and a Helicarrier equipped with life rafts?

A lot of S2 was about what was going on with other fractured SHIELD groups. The Helicarrier was explicitly explained in E20:

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I have a feeling this will be like Iron Man 1 in terms of brilliance. Miniaturized hero is gonna be so fun and it has the potential to dust off some of that trite flavour that has become the norm in Marvel movies. Yes I'm excited and hopeful


actor doesn't convince much, but it's a minor point
 
Minor point, but "best act 3 in a Marvel film" is interesting if that becomes a common thought - wasn't act 3 the main thrust of the rewrites Marvel ordered which pushed Wright off the project?
 
My director just got back from the premiere. His thoughts:

"Ant-Man is WAY cool. Ocean's Eleven with super-heroes. And yes, I do mean the plural. I expected it to exist in its own bubble with no more than lip service to the rest of the Marvel universe, but the first connection comes up immediately and it gets even better from there. And DO NOT MISS the post-credits scene."
 
A lot of S2 was about what was going on with other fractured SHIELD groups. The Helicarrier was explicitly explained in E20:

It's explicitly explained in the movie. It's the helicarrier from the first film that had been mothballed when they built the repulsorlift ones in Winter Soldier. Fury naturally knew where it was and went and got it. You don't even need the extraneous AoS fanfiction to explain it. Like almost everything people complain about being missing or unexplained in the MCU films, it's right there in the movie already.
 
It's explicitly explained in the movie. It's the helicarrier from the first film that had been mothballed when they built the repulsorlift ones in Winter Soldier. Fury naturally knew where it was and went and got it. You don't even need the extraneous AoS fanfiction to explain it. Like almost everything people complain about being missing or unexplained in the MCU films, it's right there in the movie already.

AoS is canon though.
 
Isnt it kinda weird having Falcon in this movie?

His character seems like a bit of a nobody at the moment.

Wouldn't someone like Black Widow or Cap make sense?

(spoiler tagged your post)
Falcon's an Avenger and doesn't have his own movie series. Anthony Mackie seems like a good dude, so the more chances for him to shine, the better.
 
World Premiere reactions on Twitter are really positive, even from some self admitted skeptics

Then again the early impressions for movies are always good, lol.
 
It is unbelievable how I always and only get spoilers ruined here on GAF. It's amazing to me but whatever.

Extremely excited about Ant-Man.
 

Vampires all suck.

Read those tweets you linked to also. Interesting criticism that I never considered based on the trailers so far - Evangeline Lilly seems to be better at everything than Paul Rudd in the commercials, why didn't she just wear the suit?
 
Read those tweets you linked to also. Interesting criticism that I never considered based on the trailers so far - Evangeline Lilly seems to be better at everything than Paul Rudd in the commercials, why didn't she just wear the suit?

From the interviews they explain Hank doesn't want to lose Hope so they enlist Scott. Basically, a dad protecting his daughter.
 
Honestly I don't mean to be a backseat mod but for how solid the mods are here overall compared to pretty much any other forum, the one thing I wish we would see is a bit stricter enforcement on spoilers. Not saying anything drastic but there needs to be some punishment incentive to make people think twice about some of the blatant shit they post IMO.

Spoiling stuff before a release or posting spoilers in an unrelated thread should be fucking bannable in a small capacity.

I agree with the other poster, GAF has straight up spoiled more shows and movies then any other place. I will just be skimming a thread about some random topic and some smart ass poster will post some quip or gif that refers to a fairly recent spoiler in some completely unrelated or loosely related piece of art. Or will straight up spoil openly In a thread in an unreleased piece of art.
 
Honestly I don't mean to be a backseat mod but for how solid the mods are here overall compared to pretty much any other forum, the one thing I wish we would see is a bit stricter enforcement on spoilers. Not saying anything drastic but there needs to be some punishment incentive to make people think twice about some of the blatant shit they post IMO.

Spoiling stuff before a release or posting spoilers in an unrelated thread should be fucking bannable in a small capacity.

I agree with the other poster, GAF has straight up spoiled more shows and movies then any other place. I will just be skimming a thread about some random topic and some smart ass poster will post some quip or gif that refers to a fairly recent spoiler in some completely unrelated or loosely related piece of art. Or will straight up spoil openly In a thread in an unreleased piece of art.

Observation: You keep coming back to these kinds of threads and expecting different results.
 
Observation: You keep coming back to these kinds of threads and expecting different results.

Victim blaming. If people can't use black bars appropriately, they shouldn't be on GAF. In any case, it's gone now.

If I had given away the identity of the Arkham Knight on the Gaming side people wouldn't just be shrugging "Ah well", nor if I gave away the twist to the latest Game of Thrones episode.
 
Well, fuck, thought it was safe to come into this thread...though it was Gambit1138 who spoiled it for me and not Vampire..
 
lol that spoiler tho

Gotta love that jon bones complains about the spoilers while quoting them out in the open.

so quick to call me out, didn't notice i edited the names out when i quoted

stick to the "i have terrible taste in movies" shtick b
 
I watched S2. In no way were they at that level yet, infastructure-wise or politically.
Actually that was the whole point of New Shields argument. Coulson was going around spending the same amount of money he was spending on what every thought was the whole of Shield on a secret project, recruiting people in secret and doing who knows what. That turned out to be the work done on the helicarrier plus anything else that needed to be done secretly.
 
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