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[Unreal Champ]

Still really crap for a player if they want to be gone and forced to stay. Its very rare for a player to stay at the top of their game in those circumstances. Especially if they have agreed terms with another club.

The only time I have ever seen that situation work out well (that I can remember) was the case of de Gea where the deal failed to go through on time. But the rumours of him leaving have never stopped.

You see this is what I don't understand about players. Why sign a 5+ year contract if you know for a fact you don't want to stay at the club? Virgil and Coutinho both signed contracts keeping them at their clubs until 2022, so why sign if you know you didn't want to stay at the club. Makes no sense to me.

Phil may well end up leaving but that celebration was fairly standard for him. He barely ever smiles and isn't naturally expressive, at all.

He does celebrate but very rarely like you said.

 

[Syder]

You see this is what I don't understand about players. Why sign a 5+ year contract if you know for a fact you don't want to stay at the club? Virgil and Coutinho both signed contracts keeping them at their clubs until 2022, so why sign if you know you didn't want to stay at the club. Makes no sense to me.

Improved wages, re-signing bonus, etc.

Payet got a million pound loyalty bonus off us for not leaving during the Summer transfer window with his contract extension and left 5 months later.

 

[GoldenCrow]

You see this is what I don't understand about players. Why sign a 5+ year contract if you know for a fact you don't want to stay at the club? Virgil and Coutinho both signed contracts keeping them at their clubs until 2022, so why sign if you know you didn't want to stay at the club. Makes no sense to me.

5 years is less to do with a player choice and more of a clubs choice, unless the player is old five years is the standard deal. With a four or five year contract it means they have better negotiating power when it comes to transfers. It drives the price up and places the employment club in the seat of control. As contracts aren't servitude a player knows that a club can not keep them if they don't want to be there and they can get loyalty bonuses on longer contracts.

 

[sammex]

but the amount of money you'd get to reinvest in the squad would be great. Is Coutinho leaving the end of the world with Mane, Firmino, Salah, Sturridge, Lallana, Origi...?

Arguably Coutinho makes those players better seeing as he creates chances for them too. Last time we made the CL and sold our best player before it we ended up sacking the manager. Plus they're offering £80mill and nowadays you'd not easily find a replacement at the level of Coutinho for similar amounts - I'd say he's worth more like £130m if Neymar is at £200m odd.

I think we could persuade Coutinho to stay another year with a promise to let him go next summer if that's what he wants. He has a good relationship with Klopp. With Neymar staying, he's going to have a harder time displacing one of him, Suarez, or Messi. He's on big wages already, Barca wouldn't be able to offer much more. It's a world cup year - he could stay our star player showing what he can do in the CL and guarantee his selection for the seleção. He only just turned 25 last month. Depends how desperate he is to win trophies cos that's the main thing that moving to Barca would give him (aside from the nicer weather, language, being with his childhood friend etc).

 

[TimmmV]

Still really crap for a player if they want to be gone and forced to stay. Its very rare for a player to stay at the top of their game in those circumstances. Especially if they have agreed terms with another club.

The only time I have ever seen that situation work out well (that I can remember) was the case of de Gea where the deal failed to go through on time. But the rumours of him leaving have never stopped.

Hmm, I dunno about that, Suarez was by far the best player in the league the season after he tried to leave for Arsenal. It depends on the player really.

You see this is what I don't understand about players. Why sign a 5+ year contract if you know for a fact you don't want to stay at the club? Virgil and Coutinho both signed contracts keeping them at their clubs until 2022, so why sign if you know you didn't want to stay at the club. Makes no sense to me.

Well, the player could have had every intention of staying when they signed - or they could be fine with both staying and going if the club decide to sell them, there are plenty of reasons really

 

[GoldenCrow]

Hmm, I dunno about that, Suarez was by far the best player in the league the season after he tried to leave for Arsenal. It depends on the player really.

I don't even remember that to be honest. I don't think I ever even payed attention to Suarez until the season he was ridiculously good.

 

[McMoneyman]

Dominic King‏ @DominicKing_DM 34s

Ronald Koeman has confirmed Ross Barkley will leave @Everton this summer. "he is looking for a new challenge. We'll see what happens"

 

[Lashley]

Dominic King‏ @DominicKing_DM 34s

Ronald Koeman has confirmed Ross Barkley will leave @Everton this summer. "he is looking for a new challenge. We'll see what happens"

He's average as fuck

 

[McMoneyman]

He's average as fuck

Thought he looked good in the 13-14 season(must've been something in the water that season on Merseyside). But has been pretty crap ever since.

 

[Moobabe]

He's average as fuck

Disagree - think he has all the tools to be very good, even great. But he needs a new manager, new challenge and to get his head out of his ass.

Sick of seeing young English players squander their abilities and chances.

 

[Lashley]

In the bonkers transfer world we have now, as well as the English tax, what do we expect he'll go for?

And what silly club will pay the fee?

 

[MrS]

Disagree - think he has all the tools to be very good, even great. But he needs a new manager, new challenge and to get his head out of his ass.

Sick of seeing young English players squander their abilities and chances.

History will show that Barkley was just another overhyped young English player. He's nowhere near good enough to play for a top 4 team. You're throwing the word 'great' around pretty loosely and it will never apply to Barkley.

 

[Lashley]

BBC reporting that Monaco are in talks with forward Kylian Mbappe over a contract extension

Monaco are in talks with Kylian Mbappe over a contract extension for the 18-year-old striker, says the French club's vice-president.

Mbappe, one of the most sought-after talents in football, has been strongly linked with a move to Real Madrid.

Manchester City have also been linked, but BBC Sport understands the club are reluctant to pay the 180m euro (£160m) asking price.

 

[WadiumArcadium]

but the amount of money you'd get to reinvest in the squad would be great. Is Coutinho leaving the end of the world with Mane, Firmino, Salah, Sturridge, Lallana, Origi...?

It would be a massive blow. We've got a better selection of attacking options now than in the last few seasons, but Coutinho's still our best player. Firmino's partnership with Coutinho was one of the strongest aspects of our play last season and losing that would be a big dent in our attack.

There's no doubt we need to strengthen in defence and midfield, but if it came down to keeping Coutinho or getting Van Dijk and Keita in, I'd choose the former.

If we want to be challenging for the title again we need to keep our best players or at least try our very best to do so. If he refuses to play and really wants to leave, then obviously there's not much that can be done to stop him and we're better off taking the money.

 

[Moobabe]

History will show that Barkley was just another overhyped young English player. He's nowhere near good enough to play for a top 4 team. You're throwing the word 'great' around pretty loosely and it will never apply to Barkley.

History will tell - I'm just saying he has, on paper, all of the attributes. He's strong, he's quick, two great feet, good skill - but, like so many English players, it's between the ears that will cost him.

 

[Syder]

Barkley won't go anywhere, that can afford him, that will play him more than Everton do. So it's a downhill slope for his career from here on out.

 

[TimmmV]

I don't even remember that to be honest. I don't think I ever even payed attention to Suarez until the season he was ridiculously good.

Same season! Although he was pretty good in Rodgers first season (the one before that) too - he got 23 goals in 33 games and was 2nd top scorer behind RvP

 

[faridmon]

As an Everton fan, I have to say I won't be unhappy to see the back of him to be fair. Never lived up to his potential and his lack of drive last season was just sad to see.

Klassen looks 10x more dynamic than him and he have been in this club for 1 month

 

[cromofo]

Barkley is making a big mistake.

He's not as good as he thinks he is. He should stay put.

He has a problem with Koeman not kissing his arse all the time. The prick. See you at Sunderland in 5 years.

 

[Dutch Gronk]

In the bonkers transfer world we have now, as well as the English tax, what do we expect he'll go for?

And what silly club will pay the fee?

I say a little over 1/4 of a Neymar.

 

[DBT85]

Well I'll be glad to see coutinho out if the league. One less chance of Pool competing.

They really do need to start holding on to the very best players though.

looks like he had a slight "correction" done to his previous tattoo

no city emblem anymore :lololololol

Lol yeah I saw that.

 

[RocknRola]

Leroy Sané

Wasn't that goal basically meaningless too? lol what the hell Sané?

 

[sammex]

State of that. Good job he doesn't have to look at it regularly.

 

[DBT85]

Wasn't that goal basically meaningless too? lol what the hell Sané?

Person: "What's that tattoo of?"
Sane: "It's of me celebrating a goal in the Champions League."
Person: "Really? Was it the winning goal?"
Sane: "No, someone else scored before me but I thought it was a pretty cool moment."
Person: "What kind of goal was it?"
Sane: "A tap-in."
Person: "Who was it against?"
Sane: "Monaco."
Person: "Oh. At least it was in the final, right?"
Sane: "No."
Person: "Semi final?"
Sane: "No..."
Person: "Quarter final?"
Sane: "No. Last 16."
Person: "Ah. I'm guessing you made it to the quarters though, right?"
Sane: "Nah, we lost the second leg."

 

[Don Draper's Hat]

More like Leroy INSane, am I right lads?

Heh heh. All aboard the banter bus!

 

[Dutch Gronk]

Person: "What's that tattoo of?"
Sane: "It's of me celebrating a goal in the Champions League."
Person: "Really? Was it the winning goal?"
Sane: "No, someone else scored before me but I thought it was a pretty cool moment."
Person: "What kind of goal was it?"
Sane: "A tap-in."
Person: "Who was it against?"
Sane: "Monaco."
Person: "Oh. At least it was in the final, right?"
Sane: "No."
Person: "Semi final?"
Sane: "No..."
Person: "Quarter final?"
Sane: "No. Last 16."
Person: "Ah. I'm guessing you made it to the quarters though, right?"
Sane: "Nah, we lost the second leg."

Lmao

 

[Empty]

History will tell - I'm just saying he has, on paper, all of the attributes. He's strong, he's quick, two great feet, good skill - but, like so many English players, it's between the ears that will cost him.

completly agreed.

imo pochettino is a manager that could transform him as a player

 

[His Majesty]

State of that. Good job he doesn't have to look at it regularly.

nice duckface

 

[Beefy]

Merino leaving Dortmund for Newcastle

 

[King_Moc]

Disagree - think he has all the tools to be very good, even great. But he needs a new manager, new challenge and to get his head out of his ass.

Sick of seeing young English players squander their abilities and chances.

At 23 I think the time for that has come and gone tbh. I agree he has the tools, but he's shown very little sign of using them right. Everton are doing well to cash in.

 

[Lashley]

Merino leaving Dortmund for Newcastle

He decent?

 

[Oveja Negra]

Person: "What's that tattoo of?"
Sane: "It's of me celebrating a goal in the Champions League."
Person: "Really? Was it the winning goal?"
Sane: "No, someone else scored before me but I thought it was a pretty cool moment."
Person: "What kind of goal was it?"
Sane: "A tap-in."
Person: "Who was it against?"
Sane: "Monaco."
Person: "Oh. At least it was in the final, right?"
Sane: "No."
Person: "Semi final?"
Sane: "No..."
Person: "Quarter final?"
Sane: "No. Last 16."
Person: "Ah. I'm guessing you made it to the quarters though, right?"
Sane: "Nah, we lost the second leg."

Holy crap!!

It's almost as bad as the one Mauricio Pinilla got after his shot against Brasil during the last WC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnpl7ArrWy8

The guy...

The shot...

The tattoo...

xD

 

[McMoneyman]

Ralph Rangnick on Keita: "The player isn't the problem. The problem is the entourage around the player, the whole village in Guinea or some other people that tell him why he has to do that [change club] right now.

Apparently Guineans aren't very happy with Rangnicks comments.

 

[RocknRola]

Person: "What's that tattoo of?"
Sane: "It's of me celebrating a goal in the Champions League."
Person: "Really? Was it the winning goal?"
Sane: "No, someone else scored before me but I thought it was a pretty cool moment."
Person: "What kind of goal was it?"
Sane: "A tap-in."
Person: "Who was it against?"
Sane: "Monaco."
Person: "Oh. At least it was in the final, right?"
Sane: "No."
Person: "Semi final?"
Sane: "No..."
Person: "Quarter final?"
Sane: "No. Last 16."
Person: "Ah. I'm guessing you made it to the quarters though, right?"
Sane: "Nah, we lost the second leg."

Amazing lol

 

[CMojicaAce]

Pique just admitted he doesn't know if Neymar is staying 😂

At this point I wonder if they all just agreed to troll everyone and Neymar never had any intention of leaving.

 

[Dutch Gronk]

xD

At least Sane actually scored...Dude got a tattoo of himself shooting on the bar?

 

[RocknRola]

At this point I wonder if they all just agreed to troll everyone and Neymar never had any intention of leaving.

The Great Trolling of the Summer of 2017.

 

[His Majesty]

can't talk about football tattoos without bringing up this one

poor John

 

[Beefy]

can't talk about football tattoos without bringing up this one



poor John

What is that shit

 

[Oveja Negra]

At least Sane actually scored...Dude got a tattoo of himself shooting on the bar?

Yep. Beyond pathetic.

 

[Lashley]

can't talk about football tattoos without bringing up this one



poor John

wtf is it

 

[His Majesty]

John Stones placed a tattoo to placate his girlfriend after it became public he had cheated on her.

 

[RocknRola]

John Stones placed a tattoo to placate his girlfriend after it became public he had cheated on her.

........................what..................

 

[Lashley]

John Stones placed a tattoo to placate his girlfriend after it became public he had cheated on her.

😂😂😂😂

the fucking melt

 

[Beefy]

John Stones placed a tattoo to placate his girlfriend after it became public he had cheated on her.

Why has she got a clock on her mouth?

 

[sammex]

can't talk about football tattoos without bringing up this one



poor John

If we're doing tatts then check out Moreno's. He certainly has a theme he likes...

 

[His Majesty]

Why has she got a clock on her mouth?

maybe the tattoo artist misheard John Stones when he was explaining the design

 

[DBT85]

At least Morenos are a decent artist doing them.

 

[Dutch Gronk]

Why has she got a clock on her mouth?

Cause he's on borrowed time.

If we're doing tatts then check out Moreno's. He certainly has a theme he likes...

At least those are somewhat funny and done by a proper artist.

 

[Beefy]

maybe the tattoo artist misheard John Stones when he was explaining the design

Damn

At least Morenos are a decent artist doing them.

Agree man, footballers have no excuse to have shit looking tats