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Football Thread 2017/18 |OT2| Fractured but Ox

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A Serious Man

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ambar_hitman said:
Kante injured. We are fucked. No Morata, no Kante wtf this is just sad.
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Fuck this and that and that and this and you and me and that guy over there and that guy behind him and his wife and his mistress and his dog and that dogs vet and that vets uncle and his bookie and the London Philharmonic and the government and the police and their union and also me again and also maybe you again and FIFA and god and all the other gods and the earth and the moon and every celestial body in the observable universe and every fucking whatever in the unobservable universe and every living thing that's ever been, is and will be in every possible universe. Also Spurs.
 
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WhateverItTakes

Banned
D4Danger said:
She worked for people worth close a trillion dollars though. £1bn is more than doable in the right circumstances.
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It'll all be fine though right? RIGHT?!
 
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Kyoufu

Member
£1 billion for a squad that can't defend? :b

Should buy Newcastle for much less and turn them into something much more. :p
 
SkylineRKR

SkylineRKR

Member
Syder said:
England lack 'big players' - SouthgateJust FUCK OFF

So 10 years ago when England regularly had 3 or 4 teams in the last stages of the Champions League the national team was amazing, was it?

Oh, wait...

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Fuck this dumb attitude. Look at Northern Ireland, look at Wales, look at Iceland.
They have none or very few "big players" but because of their tactics and attitude they exceed expectations.
Getting in the bullshit excuses early so he can point to it when we flop in Russia.

/rant over
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England always underperforms. As long as I watch football, they've been shit. All I can remember is a semifinal in 1990 and 1996. The rest was a dud.

The best premier league players are foreigners. The golden Arsenal was carried by Henry, Bergkamp etc. Right now, Pogba, Lukaku and some others carry United. City has De Bruyne, Silva, Jesus etc.

Then, players like Giggs and Bale, they aren't even English, lol.

I think its a combination of the absurd paparazzi, a lack of vision and they lack intelligence. They've often been fooled by the likes of Portugal, Argentina and Germany despite not being really worse than them. Players are very alike too, Gerrard, Lamps... and what they have now.. they are runners.. very samey. You'll want a Hazard or Silva type of creativity.
 
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Strax

Member
SkylineRKR said:
England always underperforms. As long as I watch football, they've been shit. All I can remember is a semifinal in 1990 and 1996. The rest was a dud.

The best premier league players are foreigners. The golden Arsenal was carried by Henry, Bergkamp etc. Right now, Pogba, Lukaku and some others carry United. City has De Bruyne, Silva, Jesus etc.

Then, players like Giggs and Bale, they aren't even English, lol.

I think its a combination of the absurd paparazzi, a lack of vision and they lack intelligence. They've often been fooled by the likes of Portugal, Argentina and Germany despite not being really worse than them. Players are very alike too, Gerrard, Lamps... and what they have now.. they are runners.. very samey. You'll want a Hazard or Silva type of creativity.
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I think it's more of a coaching problem. Teams like Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Iceland have gotten great results despite being built on players playing with mediocre teams in Germany, Italy, England and biggest teams in Holland and their home country.

The goalscorers in Iceland 3-0 win over Turkey play for Aberdeen, Burnley and Aston Villa and Iceland's best player plays for Everton.
 
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Don Draper's Hat

Member
SkylineRKR said:
England always underperforms. As long as I watch football, they've been shit. All I can remember is a semifinal in 1990 and 1996. The rest was a dud.

The best premier league players are foreigners. The golden Arsenal was carried by Henry, Bergkamp etc. Right now, Pogba, Lukaku and some others carry United. City has De Bruyne, Silva, Jesus etc.

Then, players like Giggs and Bale, they aren't even English, lol.

I think its a combination of the absurd paparazzi, a lack of vision and they lack intelligence. They've often been fooled by the likes of Portugal, Argentina and Germany despite not being really worse than them. Players are very alike too, Gerrard, Lamps... and what they have now.. they are runners.. very samey. You'll want a Hazard or Silva type of creativity.
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What about JAMIE VARDY'S Leicester City?
 
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Syder

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The thing is, there are plenty of countries that have proven you don't need massive resources or world class players to do well at tournaments; England were knocked out of the Euros by a country with a population of 340,000 people.

England fans have a reputation of being overly optimistic/expectant with tournaments but I feel people realise now we're total shite and have no chance any more. I've been saying for years that I'd be happy with a quarter-final and passionate performances.
 
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NHale

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Portugal won the Euro with a goal scored by Eder! That's the equivalent of Yaya Sanogo.

If England were better coached and players were actually picked to play on the right positions that benefit the squad and not themselves, I don't see why England shouldn't be at least a Tier 2 team (not a favorite but a contender) in any competition.

Give the reigns of the squad to a top tier manager and give him full control and England would be a lot better than they are right now. They would be a little bit suspect on the center of the defense but otherwise they have a team that would be enough to give it a fight.
 
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The_Hitcher89

Member
Just put a positive manager in charge, we'll be shit no matter what anyway

Capello, Hodgson, Allerdyce, Southgate

How fucking dull is that? It's like the FA want a shit team that bores everyone.
 
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WhateverItTakes

Banned
You do feel it's the FA's fault. They're the constant between years or managers and good players being made to look like shite. Doubt there's any way to make them clear up their act.
 
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ShinRPGamer

Member
weekev said:
We won’t we will get to the playoffs then get drawn to Italy who will embarrass us.
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We seem to have differing views on this Italian side. If Macedonia can get a draw against them, Scotland has a chance.

Not that it matters currently since Scots lost the lead.
 
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DrM

Redmond's Baby
If our team played like that on previous games, we would be at least on the 2nd place in that group.
 
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GoldenCrow

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Why do England try to play that style of football. When Henderson is your only creative outlet give it a fucking rest. Get Pulis in, fill the field with hard hitting defensive minded players that like to make it hard and are structurally sound then just punt long balls up to Kane/Sterling/Rashford/Alli. World Cup in the bag.
 
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McMoneyman

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GoldenCrow said:
Why do England try to play that style of football. When Henderson is your only creative outlet give it a fucking rest. Get Pulis in, fill the field with hard hitting defensive minded players that like to make it hard and are structurally sound then just punt long balls up to Kane/Sterling/Rashford/Alli. World Cup in the bag.
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Not a bad idea really. You can't get 40 points in the World Cup, so can't fall over like a sack of shit.
 
SkylineRKR

SkylineRKR

Member
Don Draper's Hat said:
What about JAMIE VARDY'S Leicester City?
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An incident. Vardy is another run of the mill player. It was a perfect storm, Chelsea was in shambles and sacked their coach. United was in shambles, City too... Tottenham and Arsenal choked. Leicester somehow held its own that year, to be put back in place the next.

NHale said:
Portugal won the Euro with a goal scored by Eder! That's the equivalent of Yaya Sanogo.

If England were better coached and players were actually picked to play on the right positions that benefit the squad and not themselves, I don't see why England shouldn't be at least a Tier 2 team (not a favorite but a contender) in any competition.

Give the reigns of the squad to a top tier manager and give him full control and England would be a lot better than they are right now. They would be a little bit suspect on the center of the defense but otherwise they have a team that would be enough to give it a fight.
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Well Portugal was lucky with the new Euro format. Normally you'd be out with 3 draws. This made for a boring cup where teams could play for draws again, much like the 2 point era. Old Euro was far better, only top 2 to advance. No speculations about draws. They ultimately did the unthinkable and beat a choking France in the lions den, without Ronaldo. They absolutely fought.

Yeah England got shit coaches as well. Capello is old fashioned and defensive minded. I saw Hodgson's England and I couldn't understand why the fuck Kane took corner kicks. That other coach, Capello, he was very defensive minded and from the old era. Not a guy you'll hire if you want to entertain the crowd and give young talents a chance.
 
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weekev

Banned
Audioboxer said:
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Scotland

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It’s a typical Scotland qualifying performance. Shit start good run ending in valiant defeat. Our FA will now setup friendlies against better teams than us which will kill our ranking and we will end up in pot 4 for qualifying again next time and repeat.
 
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GoldenCrow

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McMoneyman said:
Not a bad idea really. You can't get 40 points in the World Cup, so can't fall over like a sack of shit.
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Exactly. Tournament structures favour defensive football and rarely do you see games go more than two goals anyway. No national team has enough time to develop quality attacking football and English fans are a bunch of cunts who want to see box to box stuff so just give them that.
 
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