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Forbes: Xbox 360 Has Nothing On Atari 2600

Xbox 360 Has Nothing On Atari 2600
Ed Lin, 11.23.05, 11:55 AM ET

NEW YORK - Has there ever been as confused a launch as the Xbox 360?

Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people ) offers gamers two different choices. One has a hard drive, component display cable and a wireless controller. The other is a stripped-down model that lacks a hard drive, has a composite cable and a fixed-line controller.

Want the one with the hard drive but don't want (or need) the wireless controller or component cable? Tough. Buy the composite cable and wired controller separately.

On top of this enforced "freedom" of choice, retailers took it another step and offered pre-orders on systems bundled with games, accessories and even pre-paid game rentals. Toys R Us (nyse: TOY - news - people ) offers, through Amazon.com (nasdaq: AMZN - news - people ), four variations: the Pro Players Bundle I and II, and the Core Players Bundle I and II. These bundles are priced at $999.95. Picking one of these bundles makes you a sucker, not a gamer.

The confusion may be intentional. Microsoft likely hoped to cover up its lack of original games available at launch.

“The two editions allow consumers the flexibility to enter the immersive, high-definition world of Xbox 360 gaming and build toward the complete Xbox 360 entertainment experience,” a Microsoft representative said.

Ridge Racer 6? Project Gotham Racing 3? Do developers (and Microsoft) lack so much faith in the new system that they have to recycle repetitious-by-nature racing games? How embarrassing is it that The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion has been delayed to some point in 2006? How embarrassing is it that the advertising blitz for that game had already begun before the delay was announced?

It doesn't matter how many different faceplates a gamer can slap onto the front of a system. Granted, the wood-grain edition looks more interesting than another first-person shooter game, but unlike computers, one doesn't sit at a desk in front of the system. Also, why would Microsoft spend such time and money on an aspect that it acknowledges its gamers will likely ignore? Ideally the system would sit in the dark, outside of the glow of the television, as the gamer ploughs on through the night.

The influence of movies and the movie industry has destroyed the gaming field in recent years. Is it possible to play a game that doesn't have tiresome cinematic introductions and cut scenes interspersed? Even more disingenuous are the screen shots from those clips passed off as actual scenes of game play.

The best gaming platform of all time is undoubtedly the Atari (nasdaq: ATAR - news - people ) 2600. What other system had or will have as wide a variety of games that were genre-less (Human Cannonball and Lost Luggage, for example)? What other system will have the permanence of Atari 2600 games, which are available on every modern platform in the form of anthologies and as mobile games?

The Atari 2600 controllers--the joystick and the paddle--each only had one button. That spoke to the elegant simplicity of gaming. A game that requires a controller with one analog and one digital direction stick and ten buttons is certainly more complex, but it's not more fun to play. The Apple Computer (nasdaq: AAPL - news - people ) Macintosh mouse had only one button for 20 years, yet, it was always easier to use than a PC mouse. Even the new multi-button Mighty Mouse bends to the use of one button.

In fact, the most enduring videogame in the American collective consciousness, Pac-Man, doesn't even require buttons. And will anybody ever record a song, "Ridge Racer 6 Fever"?

The best title ever made in the history of U.S. videogaming was DragonStomper. It will never be surpassed because games are no longer comprised of the labor and love of one person. Games no longer have the consistent vision of a single artist/programmer, nor the dignity to end with a finality to close off all sequels. Hats off to DragonStomper creator Stephen Landrum!

DragonStomper was innovative for its graphics (which are still charming today) and music cues. "Taps" played when the player was killed; "I'm in the Money" chimed out when booty was picked off a fallen foe. There were also multiple ways to solve problems. One could descend to the dragon's lair on a rope or simply jump down (and absorb some damage).

It was simple, due to Landrum's ingenious menu system, and infinitely replayable, due to randomized monsters and items. The game, along with the Supercharger memory charger needed to play it, was also a huge risk to produce. In today's conservative game-publishing environment, there is no way DragonStomper could have been done today, unless it was tied in with the Lord of the Rings franchise. Certainly, it wouldn't have been as well executed.

Isn't that the point to gaming, to have fun? How much more incrementally fun is Ridge Racer 6 than Ridge Racer 5, or even the original Ridge Racer? Are things even more fun when manufacturers bring out different iterations of the very hardware you play on?

If anything, the Xbox 360 is aptly named: Microsoft is trying to give gamers the spin.

http://www.forbes.com/personaltech/...ames-cx_el_1123oldgames.html?partner=yahootix
 
You know, I think this article does more to damage Forbes than it does to XBOX. Maybe this writer was tweaking before he started...or he started feeling it about midway through.
 
The mainstream press just seems to fucking hate everything about this console.

Which means the general public will probably love it.
 
Hahahaha....the 360 is the first and only console to feature cinematics right.........

What we need are some great old-fashioned gems like ET, that oughtta set the industry back on course.
 
that editorial read like something off the Onion, with the author spinning further and further out of control as the piece continues... weird.
 
"Want the one with the hard drive but don't want (or need) the wireless controller or component cable? Tough. Buy the composite cable and wired controller separately.
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The writer has never even seen an Xbox 360, let alone played it. If he did play one, he'd know that the cable that comes with the premium version is a hybrid with component video output AND composite. Wireless controller > Wired.....but that's just a personal preferance.
 
Wow, I guess MS should gotten some people to say that the 360 was the next printing press or capable of guiding ICBM's. Nothing less will impress the mainstream press.
 
dumbest article ever.

Want the one with the hard drive but don't want (or need) the wireless controller or component cable? Tough. Buy the composite cable and wired controller separately.
:lol :lol Ridiculous
 
I remember when controllers were rectangular! What was wrong with that? And they forgot to attach a cord to my controller. These custom soundtracks are the worst idea ever. I don't have any music. Galaga, now that was a game.
 
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I was nodding along til I got to the first bolded part, and from then on, it descends into a crazy yet hilarious rant. :lol :lol
 
In today's conservative game-publishing environment, there is no way DragonStomper could have been done today
As an English major in college, seeing this demonstration of grammatical redundancy in a publication like Forbes makes me sad. :( I could do better, but who gets the money?
 
One could descend to the dragon's lair on a rope or simply jump down (and absorb some damage).

:lol

For some reason, the (and absorb some damage) part cracked me up. Its such a meaningless detail that by some logic the writer thought should be included.
 
If Dragonstomper doesnt become a GAF catchphrase, I'll be disapointed.

Also, this is FORBES.. shouldnt they be talking about the buisness model, not this guys love of homebrew?
 
Does the guy actually make any points? Do any of those points NOT also apply to Sony's console?

Apparently this guy wants 1978 graphics and no sequels. Get this man some Xbox Live Arcade.
 
Jiggy37 said:
As an English major in college, seeing this demonstration of grammatical redundancy in a publication like Forbes makes me sad. :( I could do better, but who gets the money?

Sounds like you're racist towards people that write bad. You need to learn to be tolerant.

What? It makes about as much sense as the article
 
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And people thought that the insanity effect hallucinations from Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem were groundbreaking... DragonStomper was 20 years ahead of its time.
 
Speevy said:
Does the guy actually make any points? Do any of those points NOT also apply to Sony's console?

Apparently this guy wants 1978 graphics and no sequels. Get this man some Xbox Live Arcade.
And limit him to 4-5 new games a month? And nothing says "success" like releasing 20+ year old titles like Ms. Pac-Man that actually run slow. Might as well go with an Xbox and mod it or buy a PSP.
 
Someone should show him Halo 2.

"see, this is a ladder and this is a ledge. I can either climb down and take time or jump down and absorb some dammage"

"OMG! THE PROBLEM SOLVING"
 
cicero said:
And limit him to 4-5 new games a month? And nothing says "success" like releasing 20+ year old titles like Ms. Pac-Man that actually run slow. Might as well go with an Xbox and mod it or buy a PSP.
but they're in hi def motherfucker... hi def bitch!
 
Mupepe said:
but they're in hi def motherfucker... hi def bitch!

Xbox Live arcade on the 360 hasnt actually had any problems. AFAIK there is no emulation going on they are all actual ports. Its the old Xbox Live Arcade that sucked.
 
StoOgE said:
Someone should show him Halo 2.

"see, this is a ladder and this is a ledge. I can either climb down and take time or jump down and absorb some dammage"

"OMG! THE PROBLEM SOLVING"
Its funny that you picked one of the very few games without fall damage to demonstrate your point.
 
Dr. Kitty Muffins said:
I wonder if the Ps3 will have this kind of anti-hype or will it get a free pass becuase of brand name appeal?
I would be willing to guess that they won't be reacting this way to PS3. Call it a hunch.
 
The influence of movies and the movie industry has destroyed the gaming field in recent years. Is it possible to play a game that doesn't have tiresome cinematic introductions and cut scenes interspersed? Even more disingenuous are the screen shots from those clips passed off as actual scenes of game play.

the truth
 
Holy crap, that reads like a rant someone would type here. Especially once they get to the part about the Atari 2600 being the best console of all time.
 
"I wonder if the Ps3 will have this kind of anti-hype or will it get a free pass becuase of brand name appeal?"

the PS3 games that people are interested in aren't sequels, so Sony should rightfully get a break.

Sounds like most people are more hyped by Heavenly Sword and Lair than MGS4, GTAx , GT5, Tekken tag 2, Killzone 3, etc.

"Even more disingenuous are the screen shots from those clips passed off as actual scenes of game play. "

Actually, i recall seeing 'faked' (e.g. DRAWN) screenshots back in the old days as well.
 
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