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Freshii only holdout in law that forces food chains to share calories on menu
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BlueTsunami
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Calories at the drive through have helped with diet compliance. That sort of information is seriously invaluable and should be widely accepted all over. It gives everyone ignorant as to how calorie dense their food is a sense of context.
This is how you know that Freshii has something to hide. They'll acquiesce soon enough I imagine
Is the OP also an alternative fact or may reading it help?
The Greek Freak
Member
They have been for a long time.
Almost every successful fad diet is successful because it finds a way to trick the user into restricting calories without them having a shit fit over counting calories since "it doesn't work because my self diagnosed thryroid/metabolism/etc issue".
That's what I've noticed. All those diets that 'work', work because you end up costuming fewer calories. There are other fancy things that can come into play, but find me a diet where I can eat 2500 calories a day and lose weight, and I'll eat my hat.
Also, whatever that diet tells me to.
This is the dressing I use on my salads and I use it as a marinade as well. Excellent profile and gives your salad that taste you get when you go to a hibachi place. I find it at Kroger in the refrigerated section.
ITT Canadia is now America.
hodayathink
Member
Fries are pretty iffy, nutritionally (if you're going to eat a potato, there are lots of better ways to do so), but the least healthy thing on a burger is usually the bun, more or less. In moderation, they're absolutely fine.
And I know this article is from Canada, but this is about to become a required thing in the US, too. The place I work just went through training about it, and is getting updated signage within the next week.
There are locations of this chain in America which might be confusing some of the posters.
I would argue the opposite. The positive effects of regulation are very visible, say in food labels, you just have to look at the nutrition label itself to see how benefits. You cannot see all the millions that didn't open, or failed, because they weren't able to bear the costs. Moreover, costs of compliance are always very difficult to grasp, and to be honest, very difficult to scientifically quantify.The only thing that balances out the positive effects of regulation is this general sense that too much of it is hurtful to the economy, and to society in general.
I think this is a very Europe VS America thing, but not many governments here come to mind that have been elected promising to 'cut regulations', except perhaps the British Tories. There's a very real sense that the law is universally good, red line is very popular with the voters, and its only cut when special interests influence government, which perhaps is why 'cutting regulations' isn't that popular. And I feel that perhaps politicians 'didn't know a single regulation worth cutting' because of how unpopular it would be to say, 'I wanna cut Housing Regulations' (didn't the Conservatives say that at one point actually?).
This is the dressing I use on my salads and I use it as a marinade as well. Excellent profile and gives your salad that taste you get when you go to a hibachi place. I find it at Kroger in the refrigerated section.
This is my favorite dressing!
Wow, we annexed Ontario. Why didn't anyone tell me?
thoseAREmySHOES
Member
Ooh, I'm going to look for this.This is the dressing I use on my salads and I use it as a marinade as well. Excellent profile and gives your salad that taste you get when you go to a hibachi place. I find it at Kroger in the refrigerated section.
So first, Freshii posts their nutritional information on their website, here:
https://www.freshii.com/static/menu_pdfs/15.pdf
Second, Freshii is great. There are a few locations in Vancouver and they offer a great selection of salads, vegetables and proteins.
I'm confused by this whole thing. Freshii's deal is that you walk in, pick up a notepad, tell them which vegetables/proteins you want in your salad/bowl/wrap and they make it for you.
Calorie counting in that that environment would be a nightmare because they'd need to note every single calorie in a serving of broccoli.
Also, I'm not sure where this strain of "THEIR FOOD IS MORE UNHEALTHY THAN YOU THINK". Their most calorie dense meal is a Pangoa bowl which packs around 800 calories. This is because it's packed with Quinoa, Avocado and black beans. It's not unhealthy - just full of carbs. If you're halfway through a long bike ride, this is exactly what you'd want to eat...
GAF - LEARN NUTRITION, PLEASE.
https://www.freshii.com/static/menu_pdfs/15.pdf
Second, Freshii is great. There are a few locations in Vancouver and they offer a great selection of salads, vegetables and proteins.
I'm confused by this whole thing. Freshii's deal is that you walk in, pick up a notepad, tell them which vegetables/proteins you want in your salad/bowl/wrap and they make it for you.
Calorie counting in that that environment would be a nightmare because they'd need to note every single calorie in a serving of broccoli.
Also, I'm not sure where this strain of "THEIR FOOD IS MORE UNHEALTHY THAN YOU THINK". Their most calorie dense meal is a Pangoa bowl which packs around 800 calories. This is because it's packed with Quinoa, Avocado and black beans. It's not unhealthy - just full of carbs. If you're halfway through a long bike ride, this is exactly what you'd want to eat...
GAF - LEARN NUTRITION, PLEASE.
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McStickenstein
Member
Not all calories are equal! Some calories are obviously more equal than others.
In all seriousness, I wouldn't be surprised that Freshii is just hiding something. The online menu certainly shows that much of the food is loaded with calories.
In all seriousness, I wouldn't be surprised that Freshii is just hiding something. The online menu certainly shows that much of the food is loaded with calories.
What does 'loaded with calories' mean?
How many calories would you expect to be in a bowl filled with high density carbohydrate like rice or quinoa?
michaelius
Banned
Sounds like they are hiding something
Probably less than 600 - because like you mentioned, people don't have that sort of nutritional knowledge. Which is why it's so essential that caloric information is readily available. If you're a marathon runner, you're likely to know more about finding the right carb rich foods. If you're a regular joe shmoe, you'll see that salad and think 'this is how I can eat light'. 600 calories a meal isn't too much - but combine that with a smoothie, and you're at 800-1k calories.
I sincerely think that first and foremost, people need to associate 'fewer calories' with eating healthy, and then we can worry about macronutritional information when it's defecit is a real issue in the west. Too many calories absolutely is.
Well, most Freshii salads are less than 600 calories and I'd argue that if you're eating a 500 calorie salad you're more than welcome to also indulge in a 250 calorie smoothie.
Like - where are you guys pulling these numbers from? My average salad at Freshii contains around 400 calories with 15-20g of protein (Romaine, Spinach, Tomatoes, Chicken, celery, 1/2 olive oil 1/2 lemon juice).
Like, I could eat 9-10 of these a day and still be within my normal daily caloric intake.
If you're arguing that restaurants need to do more to ensure that destructive people are less destructive on their bodies then I'd state that you're completely fucking wrong.
UnemployedVillain
Member
Uh, yeah? What's the problem? Other fast food places with servers putting things together somehow manage. If chipotle can have a nutrition calculator Freshii has no excuse. It's not like they're just tossing in whatever they feel like. Preparer's have specific portion sizes for each ingredient
yanipheonu
Member
As far as information i want about my food, "how much energy it gives me" is obviously number one.
I actually love this new law, makes it so much easier to keep track, and even makes me appreciate the odd time I indulge in a big meal.
I actually love this new law, makes it so much easier to keep track, and even makes me appreciate the odd time I indulge in a big meal.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Freshii is an overpriced place, doesn't even taste that good.
Should be fined for not showing calories.
Should be fined for not showing calories.
You consume 4000 calories a day? You know that's way, WAAAAAY above what just an adult should be consuming to maintain their weight, right? If you want to just maintain weight as an adult, ~2000 is the max, if you want to lose, you are looking at less than that. If each of your meals is 800 or so calories, you'll gain weight, if you're an average human. If a couple of your meals are 1k plus in a day, and maybe you grab a latte in the morning as well? This shit adds up. That's one reason I switched from my almost daily vanilla bean latte to a low cal regular latte. Just having those numbers staring at me changed my habits for the better.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Not exactly true. Glycemic index, and fiber content and other variables. Calorie intake is still important.
Freshii, Chipotle, Whole Foods, and Trader Joe's build an empire on health washing.
As long as people believe that 'organic,' 'farm to table, '' fresh,''non gmo, ' are actually measurable indicators of nutrition, we are lost.
Because, like I said, they have a paper notepad in which you write your order in. I don't know how the law works with reporting calories but I assume you'd need to individual calories per serving of veg plus the total calories for the entire thing.
With thousands of combinations I don't know how they'd do this on the slip of paper...
I dont know why so many of you are getting so upset about this. It's fucking Freshii...they make salads, rice bowls, soups and burritos. What the fuck do you think they're hiding? Fentanyl in the hard boiled eggs?
There's a diet where you can consume 2500 calories a day. You eat whatever you want and burn 3000 or more.
yeah. That was a silly math mistake.
My point was that I'm a 6ft 1 man who weighs 200lbs. I am moderately healthy. I run 3-4 times a week. I walk between 4-6 KMs a day and I've got two young kids that keep me busy.
I'm not a fitness model but I'm not a basement dweller. I'm in between. Its my responsibility to manage my caloric intake. Not Starbucks. Not Freshii.
Congratulations on realising that a sugary vanilla bean latte is less healthy for than one without syrup. Now the next step is to go full Americano and add a splash of milk. There...I cut out 160 calories for you.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
How much are they paying you and can I get a referrall?
Your explanation doesn't square with them listing nutritional info on their website. If they can list the default ingredient combinations next to a calorie count on their website, they can do it on their menu board. Simple as that.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Having readily available calorie information is big for me personally, so I hope they post them.
capitalCORN
Member
Look. Any popular health fad. A TOTAL WASH. DO NOT BELIEVE. THE ONLY REASON COMPLEX CARBS ARE HEALTHIER IS BECAUSE THEY TAKE MORE TIME TO DIGEST. Sugar/carbs are very much interchangeable, and going on keto means stressing your liver. Ketone bodies aren't flushed out the system for nothing. And cholesterol is not a thing, it is a definition of a chemical construct. For example, sex hormones are cholesterol. Paleo is fine, if you can live with the diet. But really, you need all four macronutrients: Carbs, Proteins, Fats, and Nucleotides.
Mate; it's this big;
They do post them. On their website. Which is easy to get to. Also, they provide access to their nutritional information in the stores on computers in the lineup.
Stumpokapow
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SomedayTheFire
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There's a freshii beside where I work. I don't really count calories but damn if they're pulling that shit I ain't going there for lunch again.
Not that I would cause their food is completely tasteless, mind you.
Not that I would cause their food is completely tasteless, mind you.
Mate; it's this big;
They do post them. On their website. Which is easy to get to. Also, they provide access to their nutritional information in the stores on computers in the lineup.
So why isn't the information on the menu board for default configurations?
Still waiting for an answer on that one.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
Freshii isn't actually the only ones holding out, there are other food places that have not put their calorie counts up.
They're likely lying about the calorie count.
OrangeGrayBlue
Member
If the fine is only $10,000 a day and this is a "healthy" option that maybe isn't so healthy after all, it's probably in their financial best interest to pay the fines and keep doing what they're doing. It would only take losing about 800 customers a day across all their chains to lose revenue equivalent to what they're paying in fines.
I mean, I'm in Vancouver and nowhere does that here.
Maybe it's a branding thing? I dont know what they have to hide, their default configurations are easily found on their website and as we've discussed are incredibly non-aggressive from a nutritional perspective.
You're right. It is your responsibility to manage your caloric intake. The best way for you to manage your caloric intake is to have items on menus clearly show the caloric content of that item so you can make the decision that makes sense for you so you can manage your caloric intake.
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