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[Koozek]

"Too Old To Die Young: Russell Simmons"

Too Old To Die Young is a short documentary series showcasing the lives of urban culture's most legendary characters. This episode focuses on the world of Russell Simmons, one of music's most successful moguls and a pioneer in bringing hip hop to a broader audience. Mass Appeal, alongside legendary publicist Bill Adler, spent the day following Russell, getting a better sense of his unique understanding and perspective on the world around him.​

 

[Eos]

Lol this is embarrassing. He is still better than 99% of your faves. Sure he should probably stop talking about ass raping and talk about him being older, his daughter being grown up and other shit, but still way better than most rappers now-a-days.

has never been better than most rappers, back then and now

 

[small44]

Nobody will probably care about this in this topic but Murs next album that will drop on 10 March will be a stories telling album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUKiV4OIs8E

 

[torre_avenue]

Freddie Gibbs is teasing something on his Facebook page. It's a minute long video of an opera aria against what appears to be a portrait of Gibbs done in a biblical way.

It's titled "The Return."

 

[Koozek]

Nobody will probably care about this in this topic but Murs next album that will drop on 10 March will be a stories telling album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUKiV4OIs8E

I might listen, though I think I only ever liked Murs because of the 9th Wonder production. Loved Murs & 9th Wonder - 3:16 The 9th Edition.

Freddie Gibbs is teasing something on his Facebook page. It's a minute long video of an opera aria against what appears to be a portrait of Gibbs done in a biblical way.

It's titled "The Return."

IN

 

[Detox]

Shabazz Palaces needs to drop another project.

 

[torre_avenue]

Shabazz Palaces needs to drop another project.

It'd be about the right time actually. It was 3 years between "Black Up" and "Lese Majesty", so sometime this year is about right, unless the Digable Planets reunion delayed their work on the album.

 

[Cheddahz]

Nardwuar vs. Vince Staples

 

[Koozek]

Btw, I'm not the only one here thinking The Black Album is Jay's best album, right?

Nardwuar vs. Vince Staples

Dude's always fun.

 

[kai3345]

vince needs to do stand up dude is hilarious

 

[Andrew Korenchkin]

Btw, I'm not the only one here thinking The Black Album is Jay's best album, right?


Dude's always fun.

Eh, I guess.

 

[torre_avenue]

Supposedly this is the "More Life" tracklist.

 

[FrodoYolo]

We pop gaf now

Better than Gafhop where opinions aren't allowed tbh...

>talks about anal rape
>still better than most rappers nowadays.

...okay then.

He could if he tried.

has never been better than most rappers, back then and now

Supposedly this is the "More Life" tracklist.

This trend of long ass albums need to stop. Seriously quality over quantity.

 

[Reckoner]

Now I understand what he meant by a playlist

 

[Syphon Filter]

has never been better than most rappers, back then and now

He is up there with Nas,Jay,etc

Btw, I'm not the only one here thinking The Black Album is Jay's best album, right?


Dude's always fun.

I could see that, To me it could be that or RD. Jay said his fav is RD.

 

[Tokubetsu]

two songs with giggs are you kidding me

 

[HiResDes]

I relistened to that one Giggs song, I was wrong for even acting like it wasn't clear, it's clear he bit XXXtent

 

[Storm Chamber]

Lol this is embarrassing. He is still better than 99% of your faves. Sure he should probably stop talking about ass raping and talk about him being older, his daughter being grown up and other shit, but still way better than most rappers now-a-days.

Junior so this is probably a real post

Disgusting

 

[torre_avenue]

He could if he tried.

But that's the point, he doesn't.

The man has the Alchemist as his tour DJ and has only once spit over an Alchemist beat, and his flow on that isn't anything crazy. The man's the most famous protege of Dr. Dre but hasn't used a Dre beat on his own album in a long time. Fuck, even on Sean's album, his bars basically ruined what was a fucking great flow. Atlanta rappers may say absolutely nothing with their lyrics, but I'd take that over a 50 year old man talking about ass rape, battering Jamie Lee Curtis to death, sticking posters up Ann Coulter, etc. It's like the Genius annotation says:

Making all these references to domestic abuse is Em's way of letting us know that, for better or worse, he is not going to stop writing violent lyrics about women, so urging him to cease the practice is a lost cause.

Great, but in 2017, it feels tone-deaf.

I still maintain if Eminem really started to give a shit and wanted to make an album that was his grand sendoff, it would be one of the best albums of all time. His flow is immaculate, but his lyrics are just trash-tier edgelord fuel for angsty kids who've progressed past Linkin Park & Korn and want to prove they're hip by listening to rap.

 

[Cesare Borgia]

Eminem doesn't have a single album that can be favorably compared to Jay or Nas' classic albums. His stuff has aged poorly and is incredibly crass and frivolous lyrically in many ways. Can't really trace much impact on rap either.

 

[Koozek]

But that's the point, he doesn't.

The man has the Alchemist as his tour DJ and has only once spit over an Alchemist beat, and his flow on that isn't anything crazy. The man's the most famous protege of Dr. Dre but hasn't used a Dre beat on his own album in a long time. Fuck, even on Sean's album, his bars basically ruined what was a fucking great flow. Atlanta rappers may say absolutely nothing with their lyrics, but I'd take that over a 50 year old man talking about ass rape, battering Jamie Lee Curtis to death, sticking posters up Ann Coulter, etc. It's like the Genius annotation says:

Great, but in 2017, it feels tone-deaf.

I still maintain if Eminem really started to give a shit and wanted to make an album that was his grand sendoff, it would be one of the best albums of all time. His flow is immaculate, but his lyrics are just trash-tier edgelord fuel for angsty kids who've progressed past Linkin Park & Korn and want to prove they're hip by listening to rap.

How is his flow immaculate?? He's screaming and rapid-firing on every type of beat regardless of mood and concept of song. It's so exhausting and grating to listen to. His "starting low and gradually getting louder and more aggressive" thing is so damn tired and annoying.

 

[HiResDes]

It's not about effort, he doesn't have anything relevant to say nor is he capable of putting together any sort of high concept artistic statement. He said all he had to say decades ago.

 

[Andrew Korenchkin]

How is his flow immaculate?? He's screaming and rapid-firing on every type of beat regardless of mood and concept of song. It's so exhausting and grating to listen to. His "starting low and gradually getting louder and more aggressive" thing is so damn tired and annoying.

Aren't you a Denzel Curry fan? I have to admit that I was legit surprised by your reaction to that Kaan tracks on another note. Dude had the energy of Imperial.

 

[torre_avenue]

How is his flow immaculate?? He's screaming and rapid-firing on every type of beat regardless of mood and concept of song. It's so exhausting and grating to listen to. His "starting low and gradually getting louder and more aggressive" thing is so damn tired and annoying.

He can flow well, his delivery and his lyrics are crap. In my head, I see "flow" as the rhythm his lyrics are spoken at, and "delivery" as how he says his bars. In that way, his flow is pretty good. Even on this Sean song, he varies his flow quite well, though I get what you're talking about with that escalating intensity.

It's not about effort, he doesn't have anything relevant to say nor is he capable of putting together any sort of high concept artistic statement. He said all he had to say decades ago.

See, that was my other thought when it came to Em; his whole image was predicated on him doing this horrorcore shit and he somehow managed to transition into pop stardom with that. He really doesn't have anything much to say other than "Let me say graphic shit about women", "I used to do drugs and it fucked me up, but I recovered", and "I was white trash but I made it."

Maybe he could surprise me one day, but unless he really finds something he wants to talk about, I don't think that day will ever come.

 

[Syphon Filter]

It's not about effort, he doesn't have anything relevant to say nor is he capable of putting together any sort of high concept artistic statement. He said all he had to say decades ago.

In MMLP2 he has different songs such as forgiving his mom,etc

 

[HiResDes]

In MMLP2 he has different songs such as forgiving his mom,etc

At this point no one cared but stans about his fucked up relationships, needed something else.

 

[Psychological Intellect]

Supposedly this is the "More Life" tracklist.

isn't that the tracklist that ktt made up to troll social media?

anyways, HDD says it drops this week

 

[Helmholtz]

The tracks luv scars and xo tour life from uzi's latest ep have really grown on me, getting constant play. I think they're some of his strongest tracks.

 

[Koozek]

Aren't you a Denzel Curry fan? I have to admit that I was legit surprised by your reaction to that Kaan tracks on another note. Dude had the energy of Imperial.

I admit I stopped after a minute or two and skipped through the rest, but the Kaan song sounded like typical lyrical-miracle-spritual-individual Rap that gets shared on Real Rap™ Facebook groups. I might be completely off-base, though, and maybe there's more to him than my first impression.

And yeah, Imperial was in my Top 3 AOTY. Denzel's fast rapping doesn't feel like it's just for the sake of being technical (lyrics are pretty simple and, tbh, corny at times) and for me the energy comes from the synergy of the beats and the flow. Maybe we have different definitions of energy, though!

Having said this, I have to be honest, I'm sometimes surprised myself that I liked the Denzel album as much, since I don't like fast, screamy rapping anymore. But the flows are still varied enough and the dope production and infectious hooks surely helped.

The tracks luv scars and xo tour life from uzi's latest ep have really grown on me, getting constant play. I think they're some of his strongest tracks.

I think I've been playing the EP a few times a day since you posted it, too. Dude has improved a lot from what I remember from the first tape I listened to a year ago or so.

EDIT: Okay, maybe I was misremembering. Checking out his older tapes out right now and he wasn't as bad as I thought. Maybe I confused him with another "Lil something", lol.

 

[torre_avenue]

isn't that the tracklist that ktt made up to troll social media?

anyways, HDD says it drops this week

That was this one.

 

[codhand]

Shabazz Palaces needs to drop another project.

it's almost like theyve been fostering artists and producing

 

[Helmholtz]

I think I've been playing the EP a few times a day since you posted it, too. Dude has improved a lot from what I remember from the first tape I listened to a year ago or so.

If I had to do a quick ranking of the things I've heard from him, it'd probably be something like Uzi vs the world > Luv is rage > Luv is rage 1.5 > perfect luv > 1017 vs the world
Tbh they're all worth checking out though. I still think Baby are you home has a monster beat but I never see anyone share that opinion.

 

[Koozek]

If I had to do a quick ranking of the things I've heard from him, it'd probably be something like Uzi vs the world > Luv is rage > Luv is rage 1.5 > perfect luv > 1017 vs the world
Tbh they're all worth checking out though. I still think Baby are you home has a monster beat but I never see anyone share that opinion.

See my EDIT:

EDIT: Okay, maybe I was misremembering. Checking out his older tapes out right now and he wasn't as bad as I thought. Maybe I confused him with another "Lil something", lol.

Okay, Baby Are You Home slaps.

And man, the Ps & Qs video is crazy, lol (the beat is infectious, too).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0fFzqX_Xgo

 

[Helmholtz]

Okay, Baby Are You Home slaps.

And man, the Ps & Qs video is crazy, lol (the beat is infectious, too).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0fFzqX_Xgo

Yeah I find that they all have at least 2 or 3 tracks that I like. Vs. the world is probably the best top to bottom though. Baby are you home has such a crazy production, a lot of layers going on and it sounds so menacing.
I think it's a little unfortunate that his most popular thing is his feature on bad and boujee because it's not a great representation of what he's capable of putting out.

 

[Koozek]

Yeah I find that they all have at least 2 or 3 tracks that I like. Vs. the world is probably the best top to bottom though. Baby are you home has such a crazy production, a lot of layers going on and it sounds so menacing.
I think it's a little unfortunate that his most popular thing is his feature on bad and boujee because it's not a great representation of what he's capable of putting out.

https://soundcloud.com/prodkeros/bad-and-boujee-but-its-just-lil-uzi-vert-saying-yah

I actually like his verse somehow

 

[Cheddahz]

Shabazz Palaces needs to drop another project.

it's almost like theyve been fostering artists and producing

 

[Glass Rebel]

Drool by Nnamdi Ogbonnaya that was posted earlier is pretty dope. Reminds me a little of Allan Kingdom. I dig it.

 

[Koozek]

Oh, didn't know that Mahershala Ali rapped back in the mid-'00's.

Prince Ali - Corner Ensemble

Prince Ali - Curb Side Service

 

[enzo_gt]

J.I.D. ft. Earthgang - D/vision (Prod. by J. Cole). This is dope as fuck.

J.I.D. ft. Quentin Miller - M.O.M.

Big Sean Over/Under.

Juelz Santana ft. Migos & Jim Jones - D's Up (Prod. by Southside). Kind of odd but it might be some people's tempo.

 

[Koozek]

J.I.D. ft. Earthgang - D/vision (Prod. by J. Cole). This is dope as fuck.

J.I.D. ft. Quentin Miller - M.O.M.

Smooth! Quentin's part was better than I expected. I think it'll be hard for him to leave behind the whole Drake thing.

 

[Helmholtz]

https://soundcloud.com/prodkeros/bad-and-boujee-but-its-just-lil-uzi-vert-saying-yah

I actually like his verse somehow

I do too but it got a lot of hate, at least on the web. I think it's hilarious and memorable, especially the delivery.

 

[Andrew Korenchkin]

Can we talk about how good Mannie Fresh really is?

I've never been much of a Cash Money Record fan (though I admittedly avoided their music for the longest time due to their reputation), but after listening to these old Cash Money albums, Mannie Fresh's production is insanely good on these albums.

 

[Dereck]

 

[enzo_gt]

Bet ya Shinin' Like My Rollie, whoa
Better act like you know me, whoa
I can take you 'round the globe, whoa
Places you ain't been before, whoa
You just be ready when I go, whoa
I might come get you in the Rolls, whoa
Just to get you out them clothes, whoa
And we ain't worried bout these hoes, whoa

One more ride, one more race
We go all out, we don't play
One more ride, one more race
We don't slow down, ain't no brakes

 

[Andrew Korenchkin]

This is sweet.

 

[Jay Sosa]

Can we talk about how good Mannie Fresh really is?

I've never been much of a Cash Money Record fan (though I admittedly avoided their music for the longest time due to their reputation), but after listening to these old Cash Money albums, Mannie Fresh's production is insanely good on these albums.

Dude was Cash Money.

It's crazy that he produced all of this shit basically by himself....from the recent 'hip hop beats' thread:

Juvie - Ha that drum pattern

some more mannie (aka the goat)

Gizzle-clean up man

Plan went sour

Hot Boyz - Tuesdays & Thurdays

Weezy - f da world

Big Tymers feat.B.G.-Stuntastic

Turk featuring Mickey and Christina-Growing Up

Juvenile - They Lied

My Life- Juvenile ft. TQ maybe my favorite CM song

 

[Detox]

Thanks. Didn't know about it, sounds dope.

 

[TheGreatDirector]

Can you buy this album digitally anywhere?

 

[Andrew Korenchkin]

Dude was Cash Money.

It's crazy that he produced all of this shit basically by himself....from the recent 'hip hop beats' thread:



Big Tymers feat.B.G.-Stuntastic

Turk featuring Mickey and Christina-Growing Up

Juvenile - They Lied

My Life- Juvenile ft. TQ maybe my favorite CM song

Dude had such a work ethic...in contrast to Birdman who leeches off of everyone.

 

[Reckoner]

New Azizi is out, Nintendo King