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GAF-Hop |OTXVI| Build a Wall (of Better Top 20 Albums)
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Demon Days was never that high for me either, but I generally really like their tracks and find their work to be worth listening to.
That said: I really don't like Humanz. Like, at all. Shit, y'all weren't kidding.
I really haven't fucked with his post-lil boat stuff, and I liked lil boat quite a bit back then. Hope I'm pleasantly surprised but shit like peek-a-boo does not give me a lot of hope.
Yeah it seems up your alley
Discotheque
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Demon Days was a great album. Haven't really fucked with these singles from the new one tho. Aside from the song with poocaan
Will wait til the album hits streaming to give it a shot
Will wait til the album hits streaming to give it a shot
Bounceounce
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I loved the Vince track, didn't like their pusha track though.
Andrew Korenchkin
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blur is such a great band.
They really aren't. Blur is a product of the time and their lucky location.
All of this GOAT talk had me thinking about the certain tiers and categories of rappers that I've thought about that people have mentioned in terms of longevity.
Usual Suspect GOATs
Jay Z
Nas
Biggie
Tupac
Rakim
Eminem
Big L
Alternative suspect GOATs
Ghostface Killah
Scarface
Redman
Big Pun
DMX
Busta Rhymes
Andre 3000
Ice Cube
Kanye West
Lil Wayne
Other frequent mentions
Kool G Rap
Chuck D
Big Daddy Kane
E-40
Snoop Dogg
Dr. Dre
LL Cool J
E-40
KRS-One
Underground GOAT mentions
El-P
MF DOOM
Aesop Rock
Busdriver
Kool Keith
Del the Funky Homosapien
Aceyalone
Modern day mentions for greatest right now
Danny Brown
Big Sean
Kendrick Lamar
Logic
J. Cole
Earl Sweatshirt
Joey Bada$$
Schoolboy Q
A$AP Rocky
Vince Staples
Big K.R.I.T.
Random category
Pusha T
Lupe Fiasco
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Black Thought
Ludacris
Fabolous
Common
Pimp C
Masta Ace
Devin the Dude
Pharoahe Monch
This is basically the pool that I've seen people pick from online over the years.
Usual Suspect GOATs
Jay Z
Nas
Biggie
Tupac
Rakim
Eminem
Big L
Alternative suspect GOATs
Ghostface Killah
Scarface
Redman
Big Pun
DMX
Busta Rhymes
Andre 3000
Ice Cube
Kanye West
Lil Wayne
Other frequent mentions
Kool G Rap
Chuck D
Big Daddy Kane
E-40
Snoop Dogg
Dr. Dre
LL Cool J
E-40
KRS-One
Underground GOAT mentions
El-P
MF DOOM
Aesop Rock
Busdriver
Kool Keith
Del the Funky Homosapien
Aceyalone
Modern day mentions for greatest right now
Danny Brown
Big Sean
Kendrick Lamar
Logic
J. Cole
Earl Sweatshirt
Joey Bada$$
Schoolboy Q
A$AP Rocky
Vince Staples
Big K.R.I.T.
Random category
Pusha T
Lupe Fiasco
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Black Thought
Ludacris
Fabolous
Common
Pimp C
Masta Ace
Devin the Dude
Pharoahe Monch
This is basically the pool that I've seen people pick from online over the years.
Storm Chamber
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Well damn. Guess I'll pass on that. Plastic Beach was already meh
Andrew Korenchkin
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I'm surprised that Big L is in the first group. This is a good comprehensive list though.
The Underground question is pretty tricky, but I think Aceyalone belongs on the list, personally.
Andrew Korenchkin
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I love Lifestylez but yeah you're definitely right. Having said that, he was one of the biggest what if guys for me....maybe. His second album was more of the same, wonder if he would of made a classic that is up there with the great albums. Or if he would have just stuck making similar albums for the rest of his career.
Net_Wrecker
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I would not put Big L or Big Pun or Busta Rhymes or Lil Wayne in 1st tier GOAT discussions.
Every time I listen to Cube, Redman, and Ghostface's streaks of greatness they move up whatever mental list I'm keeping.
Asap Rocky and Big KRIT have slid way, way down the "greatest right now" discussion.
I feel weird about Andre 3K constantly being split from Outkast in these lists tbh
Pusha T, Luda, Fabolous, and Lupe have no place here
Every time I listen to Cube, Redman, and Ghostface's streaks of greatness they move up whatever mental list I'm keeping.
Asap Rocky and Big KRIT have slid way, way down the "greatest right now" discussion.
I feel weird about Andre 3K constantly being split from Outkast in these lists tbh
Pusha T, Luda, Fabolous, and Lupe have no place here
Andrew Korenchkin
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I think Kool G Rap has to moved up more as well. Dude is incredibly influential.
Discotheque
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Big KRIT and ASAP Rocky fell off a damn cliff dude. Remember that year when their much discussed tapes were out. Shit was peak for them in terms of quality output. Rocky had another year of hits in him tho with a couple radio singles off his studio album
Redman and Ice Cube definitely belong in tier 1
Also it's pretty mean putting some of these dorks in modern day like logic, big sean and Joey and leaving out drake lol. Drake isn't a top 5 right now or anything but his name looks better up there than a portion of that current list
Redman and Ice Cube definitely belong in tier 1
Also it's pretty mean putting some of these dorks in modern day like logic, big sean and Joey and leaving out drake lol. Drake isn't a top 5 right now or anything but his name looks better up there than a portion of that current list
Andrew Korenchkin
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How about Groups?
I nominate Three Six Mafia.
I nominate Three Six Mafia.
Boi, if you don' git
Net_Wrecker
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I honestly didn't even notice Drake wasn't in there.
Went from a million charting singles to not mentioned at all.
Went from a million charting singles to not mentioned at all.
Andrew Korenchkin
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I also am not sure how Logic is in any conversation ANYWHERE.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Best news all day. Hope it's good.
Based on Safe and Feel It... should be, assuming those are indicative if whatever vibe he's currently got going. But who knows those could be old ass tracks.
I'm praying To The Moon is on this thing.
Bounceounce
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How can you say Pusha T and Lupe don't deserve to be there but then say Big Pun or Big L belong in any of the tiers?
Andrew Korenchkin
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Net_Wrecker
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I was just trying to respect the dead, really. L and Pun were great talents, but I wouldn't even look in their general direction until my top 30 was sketched out. The material just isn't there.
As for relating that to where Push and Lupe end up..... nah. Between both of em, Hell Hath No Fury is the thing I care about. Big L and Pun have verses more important to hip-hop than their entire careers.
Bounceounce
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I'm not saying that they aren't skilled or don't deserve to be on a list, I'm just saying that Lupe and Pusha T are both better rapper/artists than them with a larger sample size to go off of.Whoa whoa, are you implying that those two Bigs shouldn't be on any list at all
Black Republican
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not a uzi fan but kinda digging Xo Tour Llif3
Black Republican
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So Appalled>
Syphon Filter
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Pun is a monster and Big L is pretty dam nice. Pusha and lupe are good but not on the same level.
Andrew Korenchkin
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I didn't realize how huge Lebron really is until watching this.
Drake is this decade's 50. He runs the game, but no one's gonna seriously put him in a discussion of the GOATs.
Andrew Korenchkin
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I think another good addition is Kool Moe Dee. Way before Rakim and even Ll Cool J, Moe Dee was really pushing rapping along.
The Artful Dodger
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This link is broken but it's up on Mass Appeals soundcloud
https://soundcloud.com/massappealrecs/dj-shadow-systematic-feat-nas
50 wishes he was last decades Drake.
13 is one of my favourite albums.
kanye pic don't wanna work wit me
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