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GAF Wii Homebrew thread: Homebrew, emulators, USB disc installs! Easy tutorial!
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Saint Gregory
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OK, I think we're almost there now. I was able to get all of Clipper's tutorial to work but HBL still isn't loading and Gecko still won't load games. The cIOS36 rev10-Installer ran completely but then froze at the very end when it said it was finishing so I may try to run it again. I've got to run out for a few hours but I'll be trying again when I get home. I can only stand TvC staring me in the face for so long...
This is some pretty great news. Pity HBL still doesn't seem to work. I guess it must use some hack that stops it from working in later firmware versions. That's the only thing I can think of that allows me to run HBL with bannerbomb, but neither of you.Saint Gregory said:
Other things to try at this point are to test the USB Loaders again (Configurable, Ultimate, Brisma, one of them just might work) and the Homebrew Channel installer just to see if the downgrader allowed it's installation (unlikely).
Anyway, now that we have proof of concept, does anyone else with a 4.0 Wii want to give it a go? This could get imports and/or USB Loader working on your Wii without having to wait for Bootmii.
Saint Gregory
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I think the freeze at the end of the downgrader may have been the issue. I reinstalled it and it completed successfully this time. I got greedy enough to try the TP hack but I get a ticket error at the end so it looks like something was patched to prevent this even with cIOS36. I'm copying the HBL and a bunch of apps over to my SD now and I'll edit my results in.Clipper said:
Edit: OK, HBL still doesn't load and Gecko doesn't load games
I'm trying out some more apps to see which work and which don't.Caesar III
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Dash Kappei
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tetsuoxb said:
Why didn't you just upgrade through Nintendo's official firmware's update?
Saint Gregory
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Wow this has been frustrating. I've found apps that launch without any issues but nothing really useful like a usb loader or region free app. There must be something else that these apps need that 4.0 firmare systems without prior homebrew lack. I'm taking a break for now but I'm going to sink another couple hours into this before bed.
Actually, I can't see why not! And Preloader let's you run any .dol from SD it seems, so this may be our solution. I don't know enough about its workings to create a tutorial for it, but all the information seems to be here.Caesar III said:
Would one of the guys familiar with Preloader care to help out with the setup? If you already have it installed, then just checking whether you can boot one of the USB Loaders would be great.
Saint Gregory
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This is complete madness :lol Preloader starts for me but I can't install it because as soon as it loads my Wiimote changes its assignment to controller #4 and Preloader doesn't seem to recognise that I'm trying to press the 1 button to install it. Is it really possible that the Nintendo ninjas thought of everything?Clipper said:
Edit: OK I managed to get around it by turning on another controller which took the #1 assignment but I got an error message saying that my IOS36 has the fakesign bug fixed. Is it possible the the IOS36 downgrader didn't take even though the app told me it completed successfully?
Man, so close. It might be worth trying the cIOS installer again to see what happens. Preloader doesn't give the opportunity to choose a different IOS does it? Because it might be using the Wii's IOS36 rather than the cIOS36 which is installed at IOS249...Saint Gregory said:
I just did this homebrew last weekend. The only thing i could never get to work was the USB loader, i gave up on it. i was 3.3U, did all the HBC and cIos stuff, then downgraded to 3.2, then upgraded to 4.0, and everything still works fine. 4.0 is a life saver because of the SD storage solution.
Hope you guys can find a way to take 4.0's non hacked and get HBC on them!
Hope you guys can find a way to take 4.0's non hacked and get HBC on them!
Saint Gregory
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I bet that's exactly what's happening. I installed the cIOS36 downgrader again and the same thing happened. The funny thing is that every app I've tried has worked in some capacity except for the USB loader. It's the only app that just never loads.Clipper said:
Yeah, I don't feel like I'm wasting my time even though it's pretty likely that if there's a way to do this one of the experts would have found it already. If nothing else I feel pretty comfortable hacking my Wii now in prep for when 4.0 homebrew really hits. The thing I found where bannerbomb's app seemed to launch from the SD menu is pretty promising too since I didn't think that would be possible so soon.Clipper said:Probably, but trying to wade through the amount of fake info, pirates and other negative aspects is not appealing. Plus, there's the thrill of working this out on our own. If anyone finds a valid solution over there, please let us know, though.
OK, a new fix, although a very risky one, found by searching from the error you provided, Saint Gregory. It turns out I am right and Preloader wants to use the real IOS36 and won't use IOS249. However, you can use one of the apps that actually replaces IOS36 with a vulnerable one. Info here.
So it turns out that cioscorp is what you need, or just to use the WAD installer you used earlier to install cIOS36.wad from cioscorp.
I'm also looking to see if there's a Preloader installer that uses IOS249 instead, but that's not showing any results so far.
So it turns out that cioscorp is what you need, or just to use the WAD installer you used earlier to install cIOS36.wad from cioscorp.
I'm also looking to see if there's a Preloader installer that uses IOS249 instead, but that's not showing any results so far.
Saint Gregory
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Did you see this http://www.wehackwii.com/2009/05/homebrew-channel-on-virgin-40.html? I'm still reading through it now but it looks like the experts have been working on using the bannerbomb app to install the HBC.Clipper said:
Edit: It's time for a mother-fucking thread title change!!! I got HBC installed on my virgin 4.0 Wii and all I had to do was the last step in their guide since all the other steps were already figured out by you. You deserve major, major kudos for the effort you put in. All you have to do is put the part about loading the HBC.wad with the wad loader to the end of your guide and it works like a charm
Now to enjoy my new HBC channel! Thanks Clipper
nec99 said:Finally got HBC back up and running on my 4.0 wii after following one of the GBAtemp tutorials.
Now to try out these USB loaders the kids are all screaming about.
Can you link to the tutorial you used? I'm assuming that since I completely formatted my Wii's memory before installing firmware 4.0 that mine should be considered "virgin" right? I had HBC installed on it about a year ago, does that have any ramifications?
Saint Gregory
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Now that everything is set up can I put all my HBC apps and my regular Wii stuff on the same SD card? Up until now I was using a seperate card to install everything.
Saint Gregory
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Good to know. My post on this subject is pretty far back for an edit but just so everyone knows when I skipped installing the cIOS36 wad in the wehackwii tutorial I ended up the the WAD installer as a channel instead of the HBC. I didn't notice the difference at first but you can actually use the installed WAD channel to do the rest of the install which kind of makes things easier anyway.Clipper said:
So you can use Clipper's tutorial and then install the IOS35, cIOS36 and HBC wads from he WAD channel you get if you just skip to the last step in the wehackwii tutorial.
autobzooty
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Okay, I'm going to try to get my HBC back using the tutorial Saint Gregory used at We Hack Wii. Before I do, though, I just wanna be clear on what exactly constitutes a "virgin Wii."
I've had the HBC on my Wii before along with a handful of apps, but now it's not on there anymore. All of my System Updates have been official, straight from Nintendo. I aquired my 4.0 through normal means. Is my Wii a virgin?
Edit: On second thought, I'm going to use this tutorial instead, since it seems to have prepared everything for me already, giving me less opportunity to brick my Wii. Am I good to go, then?
I've had the HBC on my Wii before along with a handful of apps, but now it's not on there anymore. All of my System Updates have been official, straight from Nintendo. I aquired my 4.0 through normal means. Is my Wii a virgin?
Edit: On second thought, I'm going to use this tutorial instead, since it seems to have prepared everything for me already, giving me less opportunity to brick my Wii. Am I good to go, then?
Saint Gregory
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I don't think you have to worry about your Wii not being completely "virgin" but try this tutorial http://www.yafaze.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=113 instead of wiihackwii's. I'm thinking that it is possible to do this with just Clipper's way and the right file because I just noticed that the wad I got from wiihackwii is different that the one that ultimately worked for me. When I couldn't find the cIOS36.wad I went to yafaze to get it and their HBC is smaller than wiihackwii's. I think the one on wiihackwii is really the WAD installer mislabled.autobzooty said:
Edit: looks like you already figured it out on your own ;P
autobzooty
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Uh okay, I'm running the downgrader (I think). The tutorial says to just "let it go," but right now it's not giving me any indication that it's doing anything. Just a black screen with this text:
E...
PatchMii Core v0.1, by bushing
Did I do something wrong? Is it supposed to say something else? Should I press a button on my remote? Did I just brick my Wii?
I'm really nervous...
Could I have pressed PatchMii instead of DowngradeIOS35? Could I be that moronic? If so, can I just restart and try again without destroying my system?
E...
PatchMii Core v0.1, by bushing
Did I do something wrong? Is it supposed to say something else? Should I press a button on my remote? Did I just brick my Wii?
I'm really nervous...
Could I have pressed PatchMii instead of DowngradeIOS35? Could I be that moronic? If so, can I just restart and try again without destroying my system?
autobzooty
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Brilliant! It's back! My glorious HBC, I'm so glad to see you again!!
Now I just put back all the old contents of my SD card and all my apps will be just as I left them, right?
Now I just put back all the old contents of my SD card and all my apps will be just as I left them, right?
As Fuzzy said, you should partition your drive. I used a GParted Live CD to do mine, it seems to be the best approach for Windows users. You will probably need to shrink your existing partition, then create the new one and set it as Unformatted. The USB Loaders will then format that partition for you (make sure you remember its size so you don't accidentally format your data partition.scitek said:
Oh, and yeah, Partition Magic will do it if you own it already. The GParted approach is the best way that is both legal and free.
Finally, as you asked how much you need, I have 38 Wii games and they take up 94.7GB. I left myself 250GB on a 1TB drive so I should be fine for the rest of the gen. The average game seems to be about 2.5GB.
SoulFist said:
Here's gbatemp's compatibility page of external HDDs that have been tested thus far: Link
I use a Seagate FreeAgent GO 320 GB but like it says on the page, it has problems with certain games when the drive goes to "sleep". All I've played so far is Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Super Mario Galaxy. TvC and SSSB loads up new information with every new match but in SMG, where I spend a bit more time in certain levels, it'll freeze up once I'm done with the level. I'll just stick to using the actual game discs for games that give me that problem.
scitek said:
Depends how many games you plan to have on there. I have 15 games at the moment with about 30GBs taken up.
autobzooty
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How exactly does the USB loader work? Can it copy the discs I own onto an external harddrive or do I have to find/rip ISOs using some other means?
Also, does it just launch it with the disc channel? If not, does that mean it's not possible to use a cheating application such as Gecko or Ocarina to apply codes to games saved on an external HDD?
Also, does it just launch it with the disc channel? If not, does that mean it's not possible to use a cheating application such as Gecko or Ocarina to apply codes to games saved on an external HDD?
Caesar III
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Playing from HDD/SD is faster but Online is not possible, am I remembering this correctly?
Caesar III
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If Animal Crossing will work with this that would be awesome.
Can you create a seperate channel for every HDD Game as well?
Damn, this sounds so great but I don't want to mess up my Wii :'(
Can you create a seperate channel for every HDD Game as well?
Damn, this sounds so great but I don't want to mess up my Wii :'(
autobzooty
Member
Caesar III said:
Yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat. I'll be willing to look into making this happen depending on how safe/easy it is.
This is awesome. It cleaned up the streaming problem with HotD: Overkill completely...no more stuttering during gameplay, and MP3's longest-loading doors (sometimes over 20 seconds on the disc) now load in around 3 seconds. Just awesome stuff. I'm going to try Red Steel next. Could Nintendo potentially ban you from playing online if they wanted to? Or is that unlikely because they don't have a centralized service like Xbox Live. I remember having to get a new EEPROM for my original Xbox and everything just to play online once it was softmodded.
Yes they can ban you, if they want to (but we don't know if they'll ever want to). They have been detecting and banning cheaters in Mario Kart Wii. The USB Loader would be easily detectable by looking at how long it takes you to load the next track, which the servers likely could get messages about (they have to ensure all drivers are ready before they start the countdown). I've got my whole collection on the USB drive, but I'm playing MK Wii on disc still.scitek said: