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Dragona Akehi said:
I personally find the SDHC support in the 4.0 menu to be extremely useful to allow me to have a free fridge. You'd have to find a game with 4.0 on a game disc though... I presume Wii Sports Resort has it.

And always always update the Homebrew Channel. And update your BootMii installation as well.

yeah, if you dont have bootmii, be sure to get that and install boot2. backup your nand (wii system mem.) and you should be good. check the wiki for more help.
 
Speevy said:
I just bought a used Wii online.

When it arrives, should I start putting homebrew stuff on it or wait a little bit?

When It arrives we should start checking what firmware it have. Then start upgrading with safe IOS. =)
 
For all the new guys who just showed up, please look a few posts down from the top of this post page to see a nice big picture that is meant to draw your attention to the fact we have a tutorial that answers most of your questions.

Dragona Akehi said:
I personally find the SDHC support in the 4.0 menu to be extremely useful to allow me to have a free fridge. You'd have to find a game with 4.0 on a game disc though... I presume Wii Sports Resort has it.

And always always update the Homebrew Channel. And update your BootMii installation as well.
No games have any sort of 4.x update. They stopped updating firmware via games during the 3.4 era. Now they only update the IOSes.

If Nintendo doesn't fix the 4.2 update soon, I'll probably add Waninkoko's 4.0/4.1 updater to the tutorial.

rowanimox said:
thanks clipper!

another followup question. i'd like to have some cover images for the games but since i cant access the drive in wbfs manager, is there another way to download the images?
If your Wii is connected to the net, you can download the images within the loader. For Cfg, go to the global options page by hitting 1 twice then go to "Download Missing Covers" and push D-pad right.
 
All updated to 4.2 with the USB loader working on my brothers Wii :) Gunna keep mine at the 4.0 or 4.1 that its at for now though.
 
Borman said:
All updated to 4.2 with the USB loader working on my brothers Wii :) Gunna keep mine at the 4.0 or 4.1 that its at for now though.
Incidentally, did you use the GAF tutorial or a different one?
 
Alright, I'm not sure I understand where things stand.

Assuming that I believe the risk of bricking to be minimal (which I do), and that I have already updated HBC and Bootmii (which I have), what is the downside to updating to 4.2? Is it going to remove my existing homebrew apps and/or make me unable to use USB Loader?
 
Htown said:
Alright, I'm not sure I understand where things stand.

Assuming that I believe the risk of bricking to be minimal (which I do), and that I have already updated HBC and Bootmii (which I have), what is the downside to updating to 4.2? Is it going to remove my existing homebrew apps and/or make me unable to use USB Loader?
It will remove BootMii, which you can reinstall immediately after the update. It will also overwrite IOS 222, 223 and 249, but should leave IOS250 intact (which would have been installed at the same time as 249). With IOS250, you can delete the stubs that went in place of the other ones and then reinstall them. I am not 100% sure if you need to delete the stubs first, though, and would love if somebody could confirm whether this is the case or not.
 
Clipper said:
It will remove BootMii, which you can reinstall immediately after the update. It will also overwrite IOS 222, 223 and 249, but should leave IOS250 intact (which would have been installed at the same time as 249). With IOS250, you can delete the stubs that went in place of the other ones and then reinstall them. I am not 100% sure if you need to delete the stubs first, though, and would love if somebody could confirm whether this is the case or not.
Well darnit I'm just lazy enough for that to be a deterrent. Well played, Nintendo. No 4.2 for me.
 
Quick question: has anyone tried to apply cheats in Metroid Prime Trilogy?

I downloaded the TXT file with the codes, made the GCT file, loaded the disc with Gecko (it said "Applying cheats")...

But when I started playing, the cheat was not working...

The cheat was for Prime II: infinite dark/light ammo (it's supposedly activated with C+Z+2)...
 
So I made the jump into Wii homebrew last weekend (custom music in Brawl is why) and so far I'm loving it. No real troubles except trying to use the Savegame Manager. Keeps saying something about there being no custom ISO/IOS whatever. I want to back up my Brawl save. That's all.

Also, can't get Okami cheats to work. Says no cheats found. Used the Cheat Manager system like I did with every other game (which works) but still no luck... Can't load any channels with the Gecko program, wanted to try some VC cheatcodes. Some error saying "error loading channel" or something.

Will say that this is MUCH easier than DS homebrew and much less expensive.
 
Hmm so my wii decided to stop booting the system menu after bootmii, weird because last thing I did was play bubble bobble plus. Anyway restored my nand backup and currently have everything installed and up to date, am on 3.4U also. Is there a way to upgrade to 4.1U? Don't feel like risking 4.2U but would like to have some of the stuff that comes with 4.1. Can you download firmware stuff and just put it on sd card?
 
just wondering. i doubt it would have effected you loading into the sysmenu, but it did stop me from loading to hbc (due to a diff. title id).
 
D-Pad said:
So I made the jump into Wii homebrew last weekend (custom music in Brawl is why) and so far I'm loving it. No real troubles except trying to use the Savegame Manager. Keeps saying something about there being no custom ISO/IOS whatever. I want to back up my Brawl save. That's all.

I can't help with your cheat issues, but you probably need IOS249 for the custom IOS thing,here's instructions.

hayama987 said:
Hmm so my wii decided to stop booting the system menu after bootmii, weird because last thing I did was play bubble bobble plus. Anyway restored my nand backup and currently have everything installed and up to date, am on 3.4U also. Is there a way to upgrade to 4.1U? Don't feel like risking 4.2U but would like to have some of the stuff that comes with 4.1. Can you download firmware stuff and just put it on sd card?
Waninkoko has two tools you need to use to first upgrade to 4.0 and then to upgrade to 4.1. You need to run them both and I'll probably tutorialise them soon.
 
Waninkoko has two tools you need to use to first upgrade to 4.0 and then to upgrade to 4.1. You need to run them both and I'll probably tutorialise them soon.[/QUOTE]

Does it end up as same as it would using the nintendo updater?
 
Good news everyone! We have confirmation that the pre-prepared 4.2 installation instructions in my tutorial work. That means the virgin 4.2 instructions are going to be pretty easy. Thank you very much, Scitek, for testing it all out.

Edit: The info I got from Scitek was enough to make up a new version of the tutorial that I think should work for virgin 4.2 Wiis as well. If anybody has a 4.2 Wii that they want to install homebrew on, please let us know if it works.

hayama987 said:
Does it end up as same as it would using the nintendo updater?
Not quite. I think it might Trucha patch the IOSes it installs. Perhaps you get an option to choose not to patch them, though.
 
Clipper said:
Not quite. I think it might Trucha patch the IOSes it installs. Perhaps you get an option to choose not to patch them, though.
From what I recall of using the Waninkoko 4.0 updater on a system that already had WiiSCU used on it is the Waninkoko 4.0 updater skipped the Wii Shop part (can't remember if it skipped the IOS installed or not if it does that might be a way to evade the fakesign bug being added).
 
Haunted said:
I regard every release of a N64 emu on Wii as "beta" until Blast Corps is running perfectly at full speed. That's 1.0

i take this to the next level and apply it to actual game systems. anything without a port of BLAST CORPS isn't actually a video game system. as such, the last real game system was the n64.
 
Ramenman said:
Is the Wii64 version on the Homebrew Browser not the latest version ?

I checked it yesterday and it was dated July 09.

for some bizarre reason once you download and update it, even though it doesn't say it's the latest beta in the browser, it's definitely the newest one when you load it up. you can look at the wiki for the emulator and compare menu screens: the newest one has a bluish background, the old one reddish.
 
Nabs said:
just wondering. i doubt it would have effected you loading into the sysmenu, but it did stop me from loading to hbc (due to a diff. title id).
I think I've got this problem - I just updated the HBC and now BootMii won't load it. Works ok via System Menu though.
Is there a fix? Should I have installed BootMii again too?

Edit: Yeah, installing BootMii again fixes it.
 
i am having trouble with home brew browser too. Don't know why. updated to latest boot mii and hombrew channel yesterday.
keep saying server problem.
 
Is there anything for the Wii similar to the PSP homebrew PortableVNC? It's pretty cool to be able to display your PC on the PSP, was wondering if something like that exists for the Wii.
 
Dragona Akehi said:
I really wish we didn't have to resort to Waninkoko's "Updaters". :/

For the most part, only those too silly to update to a better firmware earlier have to use Wanin's updaters. It's really on them for waiting so long in the first place.
 
Dragona Akehi said:
I really wish we didn't have to resort to Waninkoko's "Updaters". :/
Me too, although given the youtube video I watched of the 4.0 update, it doesn't actually install any IOSes, so I'm beginning to think it just leaves out the IOS updates from the firmware updates, meaning the trucha bugs in the original Nintendo code remain.

Mejilan said:
For the most part, only those too silly to update to a better firmware earlier have to use Wanin's updaters. It's really on them for waiting so long in the first place.
Ouch, that hurts :(.

I was waiting for Cave Story or something else I couldn't resist to hit the VC in order to update. Then again, I still have no need to upgrade to 4.1 given that the Wii Shop techniques are there, so I'm not really affected.
 
Haha. No Wii Motion Plus games?
The glitch in 4.0 would drive me to suicide.
4.1 is integral (to me), for that reason alone.
4.0 for the SD Menu and the "fridge cleaning" and much speedier SD card write speeds.

I honestly don't get why would remain on 3.2/3.4/etc.
Even the much-vaunted StarFall became basically obsolete with the advent of Preloader 0.29 (4.0 and 4.1), which sadly is finally defeated on 4.2...
 
so, just to get a summary for my edification:

- is there a good reason to update to 4.2?
- what are the ramifications of doing so for someone who has hbc installed?
- is there an easy method of reinstalling hbc, presuming 4.2 uninstalls it?
- finally, would you advise it?
 
beelzebozo said:
- is there a good reason to update to 4.2?
Not unless you play a lot of The Conduit online, as it supposedly fixes some of the glitches in that game's multiplayer mode.

- what are the ramifications of doing so for someone who has hbc installed?
If you don't update to the newest HBC (v1.0.5) first, then you'll lose it. But restoring it is trivial. If you update to the newest HBC (v1.0.5), then it'll persist even after the 4.2 update. While you're at it, update BootMii as well.

- is there an easy method of reinstalling hbc, presuming 4.2 uninstalls it?
Just use the newest HackMii installer.

- finally, would you advise it?
Not really, no. A bug fix for a not-exactly-amazing game and perhaps slightly faster channel loading isn't really worth the (tiny) risk of bricking, IMHO.
 
I didn't bother either. There are two methods for independently updating the Wii Shop Channel posted in the Wiki. Do that, and you're honestly not missing anything.
 
Just made my 4.2 update downloading every updated IOS, obviously didn't update the stubbed ones, so I'm running in the purest form of 4.2 with all the goods of HBC :lol

I even updated the MIOS and BC :lol
 
Yeah, that's what I did for 4.0 and 4.1. It's always my preferred method.
I might have to use Waninkoko's icky 4.2 updater, however, if I can get confirmation that it skips the janky boot2 write.
 
Mejilan said:
Yeah, that's what I did for 4.0 and 4.1. It's always my preferred method.
I might have to use Waninkoko's icky 4.2 updater, however, if I can get confirmation that it skips the janky boot2 write.

Yes, the purest method -like I call it- is a little slow because you download the every necessary IOS to your PC without those crappy hacks, the only IOS trucha signed is IOS70.

Then you install every IOS including the System Menu via wadmager. Every IOS is as white as the snow :p Slow process but better than Waninkoko's one, since he seems included some other trucha signed in IOS that don't required it, at least not for honest people like us. :lol
 
home brew browser does not work now. I stopped during the update 3.6 . now It says its not valid wii application. I guess I will have to install it again.
 
I really like using the USB Loader, especially since I left all my Wii discs at home. Even if I had them, switching discs has become a gigantic chore to me.

What are my options with regard to keeping it?
 
Hopefully there's an easier work around for the wii shop channel within the next month or so. I seem to remember not having to do anything the last time this sort of thing happened.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
I really like using the USB Loader, especially since I left all my Wii discs at home. Even if I had them, switching discs has become a gigantic chore to me.

What are my options with regard to keeping it?

Follow the tutorial. It tells you exactly how to update and reinstall everything after the update. However, don't update unless you really want those Conduit patches.

comedy bomb said:
Hopefully there's an easier work around for the wii shop channel within the next month or so. I seem to remember not having to do anything the last time this sort of thing happened.
The current methods in the tutorial are about as easy as they could ever get and are safe too.

beelzebozo said:
so, just to get a summary for my edification:

- is there a good reason to update to 4.2?
- what are the ramifications of doing so for someone who has hbc installed?
- is there an easy method of reinstalling hbc, presuming 4.2 uninstalls it?
- finally, would you advise it?
Just so you know, every one of those questions is answered on the FAQ page of the tutorial.


Man, I'm beginning to sound like a broken record. Should I even bother with adding this information to the tutorial any more? It seems that nobody can be bothered to read it except when installing for the first time. :(
 
I think people are asking so many questions because they see so many other people asking questions. They're afraid of doing the wrong thing, even with the tutorials in front of them.

How many pages of this thread are describing specific homebrew apps, as opposed to asking how not to brick the Wii?

There's a lot of information floating about the internet, and they probably just want to be sure yours is the bit that makes the most sense.
 
Speevy said:
I think people are asking so many questions because they see so many other people asking questions. They're afraid of doing the wrong thing, even with the tutorials in front of them.

How many pages of this thread are describing specific homebrew apps, as opposed to asking how not to brick the Wii?

There's a lot of information floating about the internet, and they probably just want to be sure yours is the bit that makes the most sense.

I did try, but the USB thing is more interesting around here, so I don't inform too much about new apps anymore, except for the big ones like Wii64 :/
 
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