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Dragona Akehi
Retired
Clipper said:
Oh, I understand. But if this spreads to other games, ones without the patented Nintendo Loadtime Removal (like Punch-Out), I'm going to be pissed.
That would be the other thing I'm worried about right now....
It's just a new IOS that is coming with several new games. I believe CSI: Deadly Intent has it too. It's just like IOS55 which has been used by games for the last few months. Nothing to worry about.andymcc said:
Also, reports indicate that original import discs of NSMB Wii will still work via Gecko OS, so there is little need to worry if you are planning to import.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
It's not just that.
Playing Dead Space Extraction (HotD:Overkill and, in a lesser but still wery noticeable way, Prime 3) from the Loader vastly improved my experience with the game.
I currently have Brawl in my Wii, so NSMB would join that, Prime Trilogy and MSAnthology (Slug 6 doesn't work) as games I own that I have to play through the disc-drive.
What I'd really hate is if this is would mean the "end" (for some time maybe) of playing imports though Gecko.
I'd love to see NSMB Wii at least safe from cracking up until Christmas time is over and if maybe a custom safe system is written for any game (yeah, probably a chimera I guess), maybe that would rise sales of legit software but still give me the awesome tool that hemobrewing gave me in the first place.
Playing Dead Space Extraction (HotD:Overkill and, in a lesser but still wery noticeable way, Prime 3) from the Loader vastly improved my experience with the game.
I currently have Brawl in my Wii, so NSMB would join that, Prime Trilogy and MSAnthology (Slug 6 doesn't work) as games I own that I have to play through the disc-drive.
What I'd really hate is if this is would mean the "end" (for some time maybe) of playing imports though Gecko.
I'd love to see NSMB Wii at least safe from cracking up until Christmas time is over and if maybe a custom safe system is written for any game (yeah, probably a chimera I guess), maybe that would rise sales of legit software but still give me the awesome tool that hemobrewing gave me in the first place.
One more thing that's been discovered is that NSMB Wii is the first game to update your Wii beyond 3.4. It contains a 4.1 system menu update, changed slightly to install some newer versions of the IOSes and this new IOS53. This is great news for anyone that wants to update to 4.1, as the official update via that disc in your region should be perfectly safe.
No, it seems that imports still work just fine.Dash Kappei said:
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Clipper said:
No, I meant 4.1. 4.2 is the latest one available by the Internet and it is the one that has the extremely minor increased chance of bricking, but the disc on NSMB will only bring you to 4.1.Dash Kappei said:
It will not wipe out any of the homebrew on your Wii. Even if it was a 4.2 update, that would only wipe BootMii, IOS222/223 and IOS249 (assuming you updated HBC recently) and all of those are easily restored.
Oh, and seeing as you are on 4.0, you really should upgrade to 4.1 to get rid of the WSR bug.
josh_tarrant
Neo Member
Wait a minute ----- Metorid Prime Trilogy doesnt work on the USB loaders. I have it on there and have played a bit of Prime 1 through it and it worked fine. Am I missing something and should just stick to the disc as it will crash through the loader??
MikeE21286
Member
josh_tarrant said:
no, it works. you're fine.
HisshouBuraiKen
Member
Clipper said:
It also installs the new boot2v4 if I'm not mistaken.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
SDLMAMEwii 0.3.1 is shockingly functional already, really looking forward to what toadking does with it (GX, etc.). This has been my biggest homebrew want for a while now. Nintendo's still not off the hook for releasing DK arcade on VCA, though. 
Don't forget forcing 480i! I'm secretly glad that that doesn't work because it forces me to keep that awesome tin case out.
Clipper said:
Don't forget forcing 480i! I'm secretly glad that that doesn't work because it forces me to keep that awesome tin case out.
ok not really but I do like the case.
Host Samurai
Member
I dont know if this has been discussed in the thread, but is there a way to access the Japanese WiiWare or VC store on a US console using Homebrew?
I recently had to switch hard drive cables and am having trouble with my hard drive.
The cable works for my printer, but doesn't seem to get my hard drive recognized by the PC.
I know this is more a computer question than a homebrew one, but is there any particular reason why it wouldn't recognize it? I'm running Windows XP.
The cable works for my printer, but doesn't seem to get my hard drive recognized by the PC.
I know this is more a computer question than a homebrew one, but is there any particular reason why it wouldn't recognize it? I'm running Windows XP.
Yes, but it looks like this will require every game to have its own specific patch from now on. Hopefully Nintendo can improve this protection method to make it difficult to determine where the patch needs to be applied.Wario64 said:
There used to be ways to do this, but not any more. Not safely at least.Host Samurai said:
Configurable USB Loader can play them in 480p just fine. You just need to set video=ntsc and video_patch=all.A Twisty Fluken said:
I assume it must be the drive you use for your Wii if you post it here. Is the drive formatted to WBFS? Your PC won't be able to read it. If you want to use it for both the Wii and PC, you will need to reformat it to FAT32 and can transfer your games using the WBFS to FAT transfer procedure.Speevy said:
A Twisty Fluken
Member
Clipper said:
Interesting. Has this always been the case and I'm hallucinating, or was this added in a recent version?
Shotgun Kiss
Member
Hey guys, sorry if this question has already been answered, but I couldn't find any apparent answer in the OP or the Wiki guide.
Anyway, I installed Homebrew to my Wii about three or four weeks before the whole 4.2 issue arose. I haven't played my Wii since the 4.2 update, but now I want to go on the Wii Shop Channel and download a few VC games. However, it says there's an update for the Wii Shop Channel, and I can't access it unless I download it.
Unfortunately, I know very little about this kind of thing (as is apparent in my posts earlier in this same topic regarding getting Homebrew runing in the first place), and I'm afraid of bricking my Wii. Is this still a risk? If so, can I do anything about it?
Thanks guys.
Anyway, I installed Homebrew to my Wii about three or four weeks before the whole 4.2 issue arose. I haven't played my Wii since the 4.2 update, but now I want to go on the Wii Shop Channel and download a few VC games. However, it says there's an update for the Wii Shop Channel, and I can't access it unless I download it.
Unfortunately, I know very little about this kind of thing (as is apparent in my posts earlier in this same topic regarding getting Homebrew runing in the first place), and I'm afraid of bricking my Wii. Is this still a risk? If so, can I do anything about it?
Thanks guys.
Shin Johnpv
Member
If you go through the Wiki there's instructions on how to update safely to 4.2 and then update your Ship channel safely.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
Oh, sorry, I must have missed it. Thanks.
Don't bother doing the 4.2 update. There's still no real reason to do so unless you play The Conduit online. The shop update will work from any firmware.
MikeE21286
Member
Clipper said:
That's how I would play under normal circumstances regardless of the being "forced" to or not....so I guess I do
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Wario64 said:
Yay for my lazy ass! Boo for pirates winning. :/
Shotgun Kiss
Member
Out of curiosity, if I waited until the next official firmware update, is there a chance that means bypassing the 4.2 issue altogether? Or when downloading 4.3 (or whatever), would the Wii automatically download 4.2 as well first?
I found the Wiki pages for both upgrading to 4.2 safely and updating the Shop Channel without u;lpdating the firmware, but the instructions for doing so make me afraid I'll end up bricking the thing anyway. Not to mention, you have to download other things for these to work, which lead to even more instructions. :-(
If simply waiting until the next official firmware update will mean that Nintendo will sort this out themselves, I think I'd rather do that.
I found the Wiki pages for both upgrading to 4.2 safely and updating the Shop Channel without u;lpdating the firmware, but the instructions for doing so make me afraid I'll end up bricking the thing anyway. Not to mention, you have to download other things for these to work, which lead to even more instructions. :-(
If simply waiting until the next official firmware update will mean that Nintendo will sort this out themselves, I think I'd rather do that.
The dangerous part of the official update is to do with the boot2 update. This same boot2 update will likely continue to be performed by future updates from Nintendo. The chances of bricking are extremely small, so Nintendo doesn't really have all that much reason to fix the bug.
There are paths that absolutely minimise your chances of bricking:
If you can install BootMii as boot2, then do so, make a NAND backup, then use the safe update procedure on the Wiki. If you do manage to brick it, then you can just restore your NAND backup and try again.
If you can't install BootMii as boot2, then you should already have the boot2 version that causes the brickings from the official update. Thus, the official update should actually be completely safe for you (unless you have an extremely inopportune power outage).
There are paths that absolutely minimise your chances of bricking:
If you can install BootMii as boot2, then do so, make a NAND backup, then use the safe update procedure on the Wiki. If you do manage to brick it, then you can just restore your NAND backup and try again.
If you can't install BootMii as boot2, then you should already have the boot2 version that causes the brickings from the official update. Thus, the official update should actually be completely safe for you (unless you have an extremely inopportune power outage).
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I recently installed the USB Loader channel, but now whenever I try to load a Virtual Console game from the SD Card my Wii crashes. Could anyone please tell me what did I do wrong or if there's any way to fix this?
Starwolf_UK
Member
The most likely thing is you used Bannerbomb to install the homebrew channel.Regulus Tera said:
The solution is to remove the "private/wii/title/aktn" directory off your SD card.
Many people forget to do this and have the same problem.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Starwolf_UK said:
Thank you, that solved it!
I've been trying to install USB loader and I've tried following the Wiki. I've already installed IOS249*.
I have a few problems when I try and install Hermes' IOS222/223 I've tried the 3.0c version and the 3.1 version:
--"Select IOS249 to perform the install with D-pad left/right and push A", I cannot find IOS249, the default is IOS 38, when I scroll through the options the closest is 254. Should I pick this one?
--I've tried with 254 and then the options follow the wiki, however it fails after the network initialisation phase.
Any thoughts?
* I'm pretty sure I already installed this, how could I check?
I have a few problems when I try and install Hermes' IOS222/223 I've tried the 3.0c version and the 3.1 version:
--"Select IOS249 to perform the install with D-pad left/right and push A", I cannot find IOS249, the default is IOS 38, when I scroll through the options the closest is 254. Should I pick this one?
--I've tried with 254 and then the options follow the wiki, however it fails after the network initialisation phase.
Any thoughts?
* I'm pretty sure I already installed this, how could I check?
Vaga: Just grab the newest IOS249 installer (rev14, IIRC) and install it.
If you already had it, installing over it isn't an issue (that's how you'd upgrade, in any event).
If you didn't actually have it, well, problem solved.
Tab: Last I heard, NSMB Wii had some new anti-piracy countermeasures that were recently defeated via some kind of patch. I BELIEVE that as of yesterday, a new (beta?) version of Cfg USB Loader has that patch built in, which should make NSMB playable without an issue. There might be a newer, better version out tonight. Haven't checked yet.
If you already had it, installing over it isn't an issue (that's how you'd upgrade, in any event).
If you didn't actually have it, well, problem solved.
Tab: Last I heard, NSMB Wii had some new anti-piracy countermeasures that were recently defeated via some kind of patch. I BELIEVE that as of yesterday, a new (beta?) version of Cfg USB Loader has that patch built in, which should make NSMB playable without an issue. There might be a newer, better version out tonight. Haven't checked yet.
If it doesn't show up, then the install didn't work. Try the IOS249 install again.Vagabundo said:
Mejilan's idea of just installing it will not work if you are doing this on a recently updated Wii (beyond 3.3), so just follow the tutorial and make sure you do all the necessary steps (there are two sets of steps for the >3.3 Wiis).
As Mejilan said, install the latest version of Configurable and you'll be fine.tabsina said:
Edit: thought I'd mention that I always keep links to the latest versions of Configurable on the USB Loader page of the Wiki.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Clipper said:
I'm on 4.0 but I don't have the WSR bug, what gives?
At least my Wii says 4.0 and yes, I remember the bug with the video of M+ being played all the times. Oh well, if it ain't broken...
Do you ever play VC or WiiWare games off the SD card? That's where the bug apparently occurs.Dash Kappei said:
In any case, I'm not sure the NSMB update is as safe as I originally claimed. Having gotten the game myself yesterday, I thought I'd trial the update. I am indeed on 4.1 now and my IOSes remained intact, but BootMii stopped loading, so I have to assume this is a modified 4.1 update that also includes the boot2 upgrade in 4.2.
In other words, HisshouBuraiKen back on the last page was not mistaken.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
This might be the most ridiculous question ever but why not:
Is it even remotely possible for a USB loader or other homebrew program to report game time back into the System Menu/NAND/wherever that stuff is stored for use in the game log and the Nintendo Channel? I'd imagine that even if it was possible it might be so arduous to not be remotely worth the effort, but once the question crossed my mind I was curious.
Is it even remotely possible for a USB loader or other homebrew program to report game time back into the System Menu/NAND/wherever that stuff is stored for use in the game log and the Nintendo Channel? I'd imagine that even if it was possible it might be so arduous to not be remotely worth the effort, but once the question crossed my mind I was curious.
The only way this is possible as by installing separate channels for each game. I do not recommend this as they are very annoying to update.A Twisty Fluken said:This might be the most ridiculous question ever but why not:
Is it even remotely possible for a USB loader or other homebrew program to report game time back into the System Menu/NAND/wherever that stuff is stored for use in the game log and the Nintendo Channel? I'd imagine that even if it was possible it might be so arduous to not be remotely worth the effort, but once the question crossed my mind I was curious.
Starwolf_UK
Member
Yes but not directly. You have to use a channel creator for each game, install the creation and load the game using the created channel. An example of one such thing is crap.A Twisty Fluken said:
The problems with created channels. You have to install one for ever game, the loader you use might have issues in the future or present and is generally rigid, installations can go wrong (banner bricking you) but one that always goes wrong is A Boy and His Blob (something about the games banner which means it doesn't get extracted properly by these tools). Since A Boy and His Blob proves it can go wrong it shows any future titles are also risky. So yeah, if you're installing stuff have good brick protection on hand (a way of booting into the homebrew channel without using the system menu so basically bootmii or preloader) and make sure said brick protection works before doing anything.
That above paragraph is why Clipper doesn't cover it in the tutorial. Edit: Or the above post...
What would be a non-created channel way of doing it? Writing directly to the message board but, I doubt we'll ever get to that stage simply because the message board file isn't understood well enough and it is too risky (break the message board file and Wii menu won't boot though I think holding + and - stops the message board, miis and other personal info from loading).
That probably over answers the question.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
That's what I was thinking, I was more curious if it was possible than anything else. Thanks for the feedback!
a little help here. not for me but for my grandma.
she purchased this korean wii that has been changed to US with version 4.0u. when she purchased it it already had a hard drive and she can rip the games that she owned.
now some of the newer games is giving her some troubles so i thought "Hey, maybe she just needs to update the cfg or IOS or whatever" so i went to her place to check it out.
Her wii doesnt have a homebrew channel! It just have this "CFG USB Loader" and thats it. i tried installing homebrew using the guide that we have here but when it runs, it tells me that there is no vulnerable IOS or something.
i hope someone can help me before she gets NSMBWii. since she experienced the convenience of loading games from the hard drive, she doesnt really like to stand up and change discs whenever she wants to change a game.
Thanks in advance and keep up the great work!
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Upon reading some stuff over the gbatemp, i think what she has is a full channel. i checked her SD card and the only thing it has is the config file and covers for the games.
she purchased this korean wii that has been changed to US with version 4.0u. when she purchased it it already had a hard drive and she can rip the games that she owned.
now some of the newer games is giving her some troubles so i thought "Hey, maybe she just needs to update the cfg or IOS or whatever" so i went to her place to check it out.
Her wii doesnt have a homebrew channel! It just have this "CFG USB Loader" and thats it. i tried installing homebrew using the guide that we have here but when it runs, it tells me that there is no vulnerable IOS or something.
i hope someone can help me before she gets NSMBWii. since she experienced the convenience of loading games from the hard drive, she doesnt really like to stand up and change discs whenever she wants to change a game.
Thanks in advance and keep up the great work!
edit:
Upon reading some stuff over the gbatemp, i think what she has is a full channel. i checked her SD card and the only thing it has is the config file and covers for the games.
rowanimox said:
First thing's first: Make sure she NEVER upgrades this Wii. It will 100% brick it with error 003 unless you go back to Korean firmware. Even the Safe Updater will brick these region changed Wiis.
Now, HBC refuses to install because it's been cIOSCORPed or something stupid like that (probably to allow the downgrade). There are ways to fix that, but lets check something first.
If your Grandma is quite lucky, then the channel is the hybrid channel and not one of the earlier versions that didn't forward. Try getting the v46 .zip version of Cfg from the tutorial page. and copy only the apps directory from inSDRoot to the root directory of the SD card. Then start Cfg via the channel. If you get a splash screen that says v46 in the bottom-right corner, then all is good. If it loads the same way as it always has, then you need to do some more work.
OK, here's the first thing I'd try. This method does require you to be connected to the Internet, though. Get WiiSCU from the Wii Shop page. Install the .dol for WiiSCU into the root directory of the SD card as boot.dol and set up Bannerbomb with the instructions on the BootMii page. Choose some IOSes to restore to their original versions, but DO NOT CHOOSE IOS60. Basically, update IOS16, IOS38 and IOS61 to their latest versions without the Trucha bug (choose -Trucha).
After you do that, hopefully the HBC installer will run. If it still reports there's no vulerable IOS, report back and we'll try some other apps.
thanks clipper, will try it out asap. i want to do this for her before the weekend since i'm going away for a bit.
edit:
tried the 1st one and it looks like it didnt work. what i see at the bottom right is"
SD/USB Loader Version: 1.5+cfg31
From the looks of it, thats pretty old
edit:
tried the 1st one and it looks like it didnt work. what i see at the bottom right is"
SD/USB Loader Version: 1.5+cfg31
From the looks of it, thats pretty old
Yeah, that was before the hybrid's time.rowanimox said:thanks clipper, will try it out asap. i want to do this for her before the weekend since i'm going away for a bit.
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tried the 1st one and it looks like it didnt work. what i see at the bottom right is"
SD/USB Loader Version: 1.5+cfg31
From the looks of it, thats pretty old
OK, new method. Get DOP-IOS Mod and install IOS35IOS36 without the patch.
how do i change options? this is what i'm seeing
Which IOS would you like to use to install other IOSs?
IOS: 60
I dont want to mess around with it yet cause it sounds that that IOS60 is a bit touchy.
edit:
Scratch that, i was able to change it with just the direction keys. baka = me. right now, i guess its downloading stuff.
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done with the IOS36 stuff. whats nexT?
Which IOS would you like to use to install other IOSs?
IOS: 60
I dont want to mess around with it yet cause it sounds that that IOS60 is a bit touchy.
edit:
Scratch that, i was able to change it with just the direction keys. baka = me. right now, i guess its downloading stuff.
edit again:
done with the IOS36 stuff. whats nexT?