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[Mejilan]

For those of us that safe-updated to 4.2 and are still getting prompted to update via the disc, can't we just use DOP-IOS to manually install IOS53 and call it a day?

I haven't actually tried playing the game yet, so I haven't tested it myself.

 

[Clipper]

For those of us that safe-updated to 4.2 and are still getting prompted to update via the disc, can't we just use DOP-IOS to manually install IOS53 and call it a day?

I haven't actually tried playing the game yet, so I haven't tested it myself.

I don't know. However, if this was the problem, I suspect that Gecko would work with the play it once idea.

I have a strong feeling that it is the boot2 update which is causing the update message to appear, which would mean there is no current method to avoid it apart from the update-blocking homebrew.

 

[Mejilan]

I'll test it tonight.
That is, if DOP-IOS (or one of its mods) has even been updated to add IOS53 support.

Then again, I already have the game installed to HDD, so that'll be my permanent solution in any event. But now I'm curious.

 

[Dimmuxx]

Is it safe to play nsmb pal on a 4.2 officially updated wii? It will just update ios53 and don't remove any nice stuff(hbc, IOS236 & cIOS249) right?

 

[Bizzyb]

Just did the 4.2 safe updater via HBC BUT the Wii still reads as Ver 4.1 and the Mario Disc Channel still reads System Update. I'm not sure if I should run it again or what went wrong I just don't want to fuck up my Wii.

Any suggestions?

 

[Clipper]

I've just added a What's New page to the Wiki that I will try to update whenever there are any significant changes on the site. That way, you can easily find out what you've missed. You can even watch it via RSS if you have an account at Wikidot.

Is it safe to play nsmb pal on a 4.2 officially updated wii? It will just update ios53 and don't remove any nice stuff(hbc, IOS236 & cIOS249) right?

Yes. It likely won't bother updating your boot2 again, and even if it does, your Wii is already known to be safe.

Just did the 4.2 safe updater via HBC BUT the Wii still reads as Ver 4.1 and the Mario Disc Channel still reads System Update. I'm not sure if I should run it again or what went wrong I just don't want to fuck up my Wii.

Any suggestions?

You have to watch the updater, it can often crash before completion. It will tell you if it completed. As for NSMB, even if you do the 4.2 Safe Update, NSMB will ask you to update. It is likely detecting the lack of boot2v4 on your system.

Play NSMB with Gecko OS for another day or two. If Mejilan finds that IOS53 is enough to bypass the update, I'll add that method to the tutorial. If it isn't enough, I'll add StartPatch to the tutorial.

 

[Seagoon]

Is there any software I can run on the Wii to display a summary of all the IOS versions that are installed etc?

Should I bother installing bootmii? - I understand it can make a backup of my machine in case something in the future bricks it. (I have already followed the excellent guide and have Configurable USB Loader running).

Thank you for the awesome tutorial website.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

Hi Clipper (or anyone else that can help), a quick question, had look at the thread and wiki but didin't spot the answer. (My apologies if its been prominently answered)

My Wii is still on firmware 3.2, it hasn't been updated since and I'd prefer not to go through the hassle. Will NSMB work using GeckOS to bypass the disk-update? Is there anything in the updates I've missed that could cause the game not to function properly?

My thanks.

 

[Fuzzy]

Play NSMB with Gecko OS for another day or two. If Mejilan finds that IOS53 is enough to bypass the update, I'll add that method to the tutorial. If it isn't enough, I'll add StartPatch to the tutorial.

Or he can install it to a HDD and play it from there without having to worry about the disc update.

 

[Anony]

i just googled IOS53 and there's some dl links in the first few links

do you just install those via the wad manager?

 

[Mejilan]

Just use DOP-IOS v8 to install the newest version of IOS53.
I did that, and also updated to a newer version of IOS55.
Disabled the Preloader hack that blocks on-disc updates, then rebooted the Wii.

Game runs off the disc without an update prompt. So as far as I can tell, it's not checking the boot2 sector. It just requires 4.1 and a new IOS53 (and/or possibly IOS55), as far as I can see.

 

[Clipper]

Is there any software I can run on the Wii to display a summary of all the IOS versions that are installed etc?

Should I bother installing bootmii? - I understand it can make a backup of my machine in case something in the future bricks it. (I have already followed the excellent guide and have Configurable USB Loader running).

Thank you for the awesome tutorial website.

Yes, install BootMii as boot2 if you can and make a backup. There is no reason not to.

Hi Clipper (or anyone else that can help), a quick question, had look at the thread and wiki but didin't spot the answer. (My apologies if its been prominently answered)

My Wii is still on firmware 3.2, it hasn't been updated since and I'd prefer not to go through the hassle. Will NSMB work using GeckOS to bypass the disk-update? Is there anything in the updates I've missed that could cause the game not to function properly?

My thanks.

See below.

Just use DOP-IOS v8 to install the newest version of IOS53.
I did that, and also updated to a newer version of IOS55.
Disabled the Preloader hack that blocks on-disc updates, then rebooted the Wii.

Game runs off the disc without an update prompt. So as far as I can tell, it's not checking the boot2 sector. It just requires 4.1 and a new IOS53 (and/or possibly IOS55), as far as I can see.

Thanks for that Mejilan. I'll add that to the update tutorial.

Edit: New info on the What's New Page says: Added Avoid Disc Updates page.

 

[J Tourettes]

You could also install Preloader or StartPatch to avoid the updates. I may add a page for StartPatch to the tutorial soon because of the NSMB issue.


Whether you have the HBC installed or not, the chances of bricking are equal. Thus, there is no real need for him to delete it.

Thanks, my friend had already uninstalled it and updated by the time I spoke to him. Luckily he didn't get bricked.

 

[wackojackosnose]

Edit: New info on the What's New Page says: Added Avoid Disc Updates page.

Hey Clipper, I've tried this with twice now (old and revised instructions) but it still isn't working for me. I get to (5) of the latest instructions but the program doesn't offer to install IOS36. Instead, after loading IOS249, I'm given the option of entering IOS, Channels and System Menu. I go into IOS and install both IOS53 and IOS55 without applying Sig Hash Check Patch. Upon restarting the system, the NSMB disc is still telling me to update my system. I checked with the IOS Mod program and it says I have IOS53 (rev 5406) and IOS55 (rev 5406). Where am I going wrong?

Thanks for any help.

 

[Clipper]

Hey Clipper, I've tried this with twice now (old and revised instructions) but it still isn't working for me. I get to (5) of the latest instructions but the program doesn't offer to install IOS36. Instead, after loading IOS249, I'm given the option of entering IOS, Channels and System Menu. I go into IOS and install both IOS53 and IOS55 without applying Sig Hash Check Patch. Upon restarting the system, the NSMB disc is still telling me to update my system. I checked with the IOS Mod program and it says I have IOS53 (rev 5406) and IOS55 (rev 5406). Where am I going wrong?

Thanks for any help.

Have you also previously updated to 4.2 via the safe installer?

It's also just possible that this whole plan is wrong :S.

Hmm, I guess I'm updated from the 4.1 update on the NSMB disc, so if you can tell me what IOS versions you have (using DOP-IOS or Title Lister), maybe we can work out what else you need!

 

[Mejilan]

Thanks for that Mejilan. I'll add that to the update tutorial.

No problem! Also got me to actually play the game, finally. Got through the first 4 stages with all coins! Good stuff so far. Definitely feels like a more fleshed out sequel of the DS version.

 

[wackojackosnose]

Have you also previously updated to 4.2 via the safe installer?

It's also just possible that this whole plan is wrong :S.

Hmm, I guess I'm updated from the 4.1 update on the NSMB disc, so if you can tell me what IOS versions you have (using DOP-IOS or Title Lister), maybe we can work out what else you need!

Yep, I updated from 4.1e to 4.2e via the safe installer and then I did the IOS53 and IOS55 earlier today.

Also, I just checked out Title Lister. What info do you need from it and what's the best way to get it to you? I had my pen and paper ready to list the IOSes for you but then a list of 96 rows flashed by and then I realised my hand-eye co-ordination is kinda slow and sucks.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

Just use DOP-IOS v8 to install the newest version of IOS53.
I did that, and also updated to a newer version of IOS55.
Disabled the Preloader hack that blocks on-disc updates, then rebooted the Wii.

Game runs off the disc without an update prompt. So as far as I can tell, it's not checking the boot2 sector. It just requires 4.1 and a new IOS53 (and/or possibly IOS55), as far as I can see.

OK this is slightly confusing. I installed my copy of NSMBWii (NTSC/US version) and it has run just fine and I have a completely uninteresting 4.1 Wii. Do I actually need IOS53 for anything?

 

[Mejilan]

OK this is slightly confusing. I installed my copy of NSMBWii (NTSC/US version) and it has run just fine and I have a completely uninteresting 4.1 Wii. Do I actually need IOS53 for anything?

I was merely testing/devising a way to get rid of the on-disc update prompts when running the game off the actual disc, without actually running the on-disc update.

If you're running it off HDD (as I am), then the steps I posted aren't really necessary.
According to DOP-IOS, I actually already had (an older version of) IOS53 installed, before I even bought NSMB Wii. I imagine it hit via the 4.2 safe updater. *shrugs*

 

[Dragona Akehi]

I was merely testing/devising a way to get rid of the on-disc update prompts when running the game off the actual disc, without actually running the on-disc update.

If you're running it off HDD (as I am), then the steps I posted aren't really necessary.
According to DOP-IOS, I actually already had (an older version of) IOS53 installed, before I even bought NSMB Wii. I imagine it hit via the 4.2 safe updater. *shrugs*

Ah. Stupid hydra.

 

[NimbusD]

Hey guys. New to all this and I'm trying to use the 4.2 safe updater, following all of the instructions on the wiki, but it keeps just hanging on 'Network Initializing.....' with nothing happening. Looked around for this problem and can't find anything. Any ideas?

Nevermind, got it. For some reason it won't let me connect to my wireless, so I just connected to someone else's in my building for now.

 

[Mejilan]

If you're using the LAN adapter, try switching to wireless.
Or vice-versa, if possible?

 

[Clipper]

OK, let's work this out. Using Dop-IOS Mod, I have compiled a list of the current versions of my IOSes 61 and below. Now, if someone who has not updated officially in any capacity can please post their list, I'd be grateful. That includes people who used the Safe Updater.

Here's my list:

IOS4 = 65280
IOS9 = 521
IOS10 = 768
IOS11 = 256
IOS12 = 12
IOS13 = 16
IOS14 = 263
IOS15 = 266
IOS16 = 512
IOS17 = 518
IOS20 = 256
IOS21 = 525
IOS22 = 780
IOS28 = 1293
IOS30 = 2816
IOS31 = 3092
IOS33 = 2834
IOS34 = 3091
IOS35 = 3092
IOS36 = 3094
IOS37 = 3612
IOS38 = 3610
IOS50 = 5120
IOS51 = 4864
IOS53 = 5406
IOS55 = 5406
IOS56 = 4890
IOS60 = 6174
IOS61 = 5405

 

[Mejilan]

I'll post my listing later tonight.

 

[Quixzlizx]

I have a question about BootMii. I currently have 4.0u, and I followed the instructions on this page. I installed BootMii, and installed it as boot2, and used the sdhc card that was in there as the bootmii card. According to the installer, this was all successful. The HBC apparently installed fine, but my system is automatically going to the regular Wii menu when I start it up, so I'm not sure what I need to do to get BootMii to initialize. Thanks.

 

[Clipper]

I have a question about BootMii. I currently have 4.0u, and I followed the instructions on this page. I installed BootMii, and installed it as boot2, and used the sdhc card that was in there as the bootmii card. According to the installer, this was all successful. The HBC apparently installed fine, but my system is automatically going to the regular Wii menu when I start it up, so I'm not sure what I need to do to get BootMii to initialize. Thanks.

Is there a bootmii directory on your SD card? If not, run the installer again and choose the "Initialise SD card" option. If so, try copying it to another SD card if you have one. BootMii is particularly picky about SD cards that you use.

 

[Quixzlizx]

Is there a bootmii directory on your SD card? If not, run the installer again and choose the "Initialise SD card" option. If so, try copying it to another SD card if you have one. BootMii is particularly picky about SD cards that you use.

There is a bootmii folder on my SDHC card, but I don't have any other cards. I bought this one just for the Wii

Edit: It's an 8 GB Transcend Class 6 card, if that means anything.

 

[wackojackosnose]

Here you go Clipper. I moved from 4.1e to 4.2e via the safe updater, and I think the last time I used the official installer was for firmware 4.0e.

IOS10 v768
IOS60 v6174
IOS55 v5406
IOS53 v5406
IOS38 v3867
IOS51 v4864
IOS36 v3351
IOS14 v520
IOS28 v1550
IOS22 v1037
IOS37 v3869
IOS35 v3349
IOS33 v3091
IOS34 v3348
IOS31 v3349
IOS21 v782
IOS20 v256
IOS17 v775
IOS30 v2816
IOS13 v273
IOS12 v269
IOS11 v256
IOS15 v253
IOS9 v778
IOS4 v65280

 

[Clipper]

wackojackosnose: Try updating IOS15 with Dop-IOS and see if that does the trick. Are you sure you listed everything there? Some important ones seem to be missing like IOS56 and IOS61.

 

[wackojackosnose]

Here you go:

IOS57 v5661
IOS56 v5405
IOS70 v6687
IOS250 v65535
IOS249 v15
IOS254 v3
IOS61 v5405
IOS50 v5120
IOS16 v512

I just updated IOS15 (which is now v523) but the disc channel is still telling me to update. Hmm... :/ Thanks for your help though!

 

[Clipper]

Here you go:

IOS57 v5661
IOS56 v5405
IOS70 v6687
IOS250 v65535
IOS249 v15
IOS254 v3
IOS61 v5405
IOS50 v5120
IOS16 v512

I just updated IOS15 (which is now v523) but the disc channel is still telling me to update. Hmm... :/ Thanks for your help though!

Hmm. I guess Mejilan's case is something special. Perhaps the way Preloader blocks updates makes them not show up again later on.

OK, that's enough beating around the bush. It's StartPatch time.

 

[Clipper]

OK, I've changed the Avoid Disc Updates method to use StartPatch. Be careful.

 

[Mejilan]

I have a US launch Wii that has installed every single official US Nintendo update up to and including 4.1. 4.2 was the only time I used a third party updater, in this case the Safe Updater from the Wiki.

Here's my set IOS up as outputted by DOP-IOS v8:
IOS4 v65280 (stub)
IOS9 v778 *
IOS10 v768 (stub)
IOS11 v10
IOS12 v269 *
IOS13 v273 *
IOS14 v520 *
IOS15 v523 *
IOS16 v512 (stub)
IOS17 v775 *
IOS20 v12
IOS21 v782 *
IOS22 v1037 *
IOS28 v1550 *
IOS30 v1040
IOS31 v3349 *
IOS33 v3091 *
IOS34 v3348 *
IOS35 v3349 *
IOS36 v1042 *
IOS37 v3869 *
IOS38 v3867
IOS50 v5120 (stub)
IOS51 v4864 (stub)
IOS53 v5149 [used DOP-IOS to manually update to newest version last night]
IOS55 v5149 [used DOP-IOS to manually update to newest version last night]
IOS56 v5405
IOS57 v5661
IOS60 v6174
IOS61 v5405
IOS70 v6687 [manually hacked to allow Priiloader/Preloader to work]
IOS222 v4 [Hermes CIOS]
IOS223 v4 [Hermes CIOS]
IOS249 v15 [Wanin CIOS]
IOS250 v65535 [Wanin CIOS backup]
IOS254 v31338 [BootMii CIOS]

Notes: IOSes marked with an asterisk denote IOSes installed in my system that are NOT the newest ones available according to DOP-IOS. Strangely, in most cases, my version numbers are higher than the highest latest available versions reported by DOP-IOS.
DOP-IOS comments are in (parentheses).
My comments are in [brackets].

 

[autobzooty]

I'm playing Twilight Princess off of a USB harddrive via Configurable USB Loader, but I'm noticing a lot of sound clipping, both in the music and the sound effects. At first I thought it was just Nintendo's fault and it was a problem with the game, but I'm starting to wonder if homebrew might be the cause. Seems like a weird thing to be affected, but I dunno. Can anyone shed any light on this?

Also, when I boot up Twilight Princess, Configurable USB Loader says something about a warning for CIOS 249 before rev14 and that error #001 might not be addressed. I forget the exact error message, usually it goes away too fast before the game starts up. Is this going to cause a problem for me later on? Aside from the sound issue, the game is playing fine.

edit: just checked the game on the disc channel, the game still has the clipping. can't believe it's this bad from someone like nintendo D:

 

[Clipper]

Also, when I boot up Twilight Princess, Configurable USB Loader says something about a warning for CIOS 249 before rev14 and that error #001 might not be addressed. I forget the exact error message, usually it goes away too fast before the game starts up. Is this going to cause a problem for me later on? Aside from the sound issue, the game is playing fine.

Just update IOS249.

 

[Vinterbird]

Stupid question time:

- If I use the safe upgrade to 4.2, can I play New Super Mario Bros. Wii straight from the disc, or does the game have an newer update on it? (and can I update via the normal official way without loosing homebrew and the likes, and only risk the minimal chance of a brick?)

- Every time I boot my Wii with the SD card inserted, it boots straight into the BootMii menu. Is there a way so I can have the SD card in the Wii, and have it boot to the normal Wii menu?

- Some Wii games like Metroid Prime Trilogy and Brawl doesn't load via the disc due to their dual-layer nature. According to Nintendo, I need to send them my Wii so they can clean the reader-head. Is there a way (non USB harddrive way) to fix it myself?

- Whats the easiest way to update the Configurable USB Loader?

 

[samratty]

Stupid question time:

- If I use the safe upgrade to 4.2, can I play New Super Mario Bros. Wii straight from the disc, or does the game have an newer update on it? (and can I update via the normal official way without loosing homebrew and the likes, and only risk the minimal chance of a brick?)

Answered in this thread already if you look up. And it's on the Gaf Homebrew FAQ now I think. To answer simply, NSMBWii will still ask for an update most probably. Won't remove homebrew but will remove Bootmii and also therefore has the very minimal chance of being bricked.

- Every time I boot my Wii with the SD card inserted, it boots straight into the BootMii menu. Is there a way so I can have the SD card in the Wii, and have it boot to the normal Wii menu?

A folder called bootmii will be on your SD. Move it to your PC as it should contain a nand backup you'll want to keep hold of. Copy that back on to the SD if you ever need to use Bootmii

- Some Wii games like Metroid Prime Trilogy and Brawl doesn't load via the disc due to their dual-layer nature. According to Nintendo, I need to send them my Wii so they can clean the reader-head. Is there a way (non USB harddrive way) to fix it myself?

Maybe with a drive cleaning disc, maybe.

- Whats the easiest way to update the Configurable USB Loader?

You can update internally. There's an update option in global options IIRC.

 

[Fuzzy]

A folder called bootmii will be on your SD. Move it to your PC as it should contain a nand backup you'll want to keep hold of. Copy that back on to the SD if you ever need to use Bootmii

Or he can just rename it on the card and then change it back when he wants to use bootmii. Another option is to set it to autoboot to the Wii system menu or HBC after any time he chooses.

 

[samratty]

Or he can just rename it on the card and then change it back when he wants to use bootmii. Another option is to set it to autoboot to the Wii system menu or HBC after any time he chooses.

Yeh, these ways are better and easier.
I think too laterally sometimes.

 

[Ormberg]

I need to ask the wizards in here about this one...

So I got a new Wii with fw 3.3 installed. Followed the gaf wiki but after IOS15 restore I got a "DUMP" screen. Wii seemed to work fine though, so I decided to redo it from step 1.

Well, after I reinstalled the homebrew channel and installed cios 38 rev 14, the HBC was upside down :lol

I still got USB Loader working and I could install my games on it and the play fine, but HBC, and only HBC, is still upside down :lol

Any reason to be worried?

 

[CO_Andy]

Just reinstall HBC to flip the channel screen to normal position.

You get it upside down if you install something that modifies the contents of the HBC.

 

[Ormberg]

Just reinstall HBC to flip the channel screen to normal position.

You get it upside down if you install something that modifies the contents of the HBC.

Thanks, I'll try it out!

 

[Clipper]

Stupid question time:

I wanted to add a few more points to the answers you already got.

- If I use the safe upgrade to 4.2, can I play New Super Mario Bros. Wii straight from the disc, or does the game have an newer update on it? (and can I update via the normal official way without loosing homebrew and the likes, and only risk the minimal chance of a brick?)

As stated, you will still be asked to update and risk bricking. A procedure has been added to allow you to avoid the disc update.

- Every time I boot my Wii with the SD card inserted, it boots straight into the BootMii menu. Is there a way so I can have the SD card in the Wii, and have it boot to the normal Wii menu?

You can rename the directory as suggested, but you can also turn on the autoboot option to make BootMii autoboot to either the System Menu or HBC (I personally set a 1 second timeout to HBC as it gives easy access to my Homebrew, and the system menu is easy to get back to with the home button). Instructions to do this are on the BootMii page.

- Some Wii games like Metroid Prime Trilogy and Brawl doesn't load via the disc due to their dual-layer nature. According to Nintendo, I need to send them my Wii so they can clean the reader-head. Is there a way (non USB harddrive way) to fix it myself?

Cleaning seems to be the only thing you can try.

- Whats the easiest way to update the Configurable USB Loader?

Instructions to do this by both online and offline methods are on the page for it.

I need to ask the wizards in here about this one...

So I got a new Wii with fw 3.3 installed. Followed the gaf wiki but after IOS15 restore I got a "DUMP" screen. Wii seemed to work fine though, so I decided to redo it from step 1.

Well, after I reinstalled the homebrew channel and installed cios 38 rev 14, the HBC was upside down :lol

I still got USB Loader working and I could install my games on it and the play fine, but HBC, and only HBC, is still upside down :lol

Any reason to be worried?

There is something fishy in your story. This is either not a new Wii, you have installed additional stuff to what you were told to install, or you didn't follow the Wiki properly. The HBC turns upside-down if the IOS it runs off is not original. There is no step in the Wiki that ever changes any of your original IOSes.

To fix the upside-down HBC, find the IOS it uses to run (push 1 on the HBC screen) and restore that IOS to its original state with Dop-IOS.

Just reinstall HBC to flip the channel screen to normal position.

You get it upside down if you install something that modifies the contents of the HBC.

That's rubbish.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

On my Wii Firmware 3.2, I decided to take the risk and use the software-update that comes with New Super Mario Bros (PAL). It did two updates (and two restarts), and now my menu says I am running VER 4.1E. Game runs as its meant to, my homebrew channel is still present and working fully.

I can provide photos if needed. Could it be that, unexpectedly, the game actually doesn't contain the bricking firmware?

 

[wrowa]

On my Wii Firmware 3.2, I decided to take the risk and use the software-update that comes with New Super Mario Bros (PAL). It did two updates (and two restarts), and now my menu says I am running VER 4.1E. Game runs as its meant to, my homebrew channel is still present and working fully.

I can provide photos if needed. Could it be that, unexpectedly, the game actually doesn't contain the bricking firmware?

The bricking fw is 4.2 iirc. 4.1 only fixed that Wii Sports Resort bug.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

The bricking fw is 4.2 iirc. 4.1 only fixed that Wii Sports Resort bug.

Yep, I get that. I was just highlighting that, at least for me, NSMB (Pal) doesn't install the bricking 4.2 update. Meaning that circumvention may not be needed.

Interesting that Nintendo don't put their latest (and most dangerous) update on their newest, biggest game. I'd like to think it is due to concern that high sales would have resulted in a lot of bricked Wiis, enough to grab press attention, but I'm probably wrong.

 

[Clipper]

On my Wii Firmware 3.2, I decided to take the risk and use the software-update that comes with New Super Mario Bros (PAL). It did two updates (and two restarts), and now my menu says I am running VER 4.1E. Game runs as its meant to, my homebrew channel is still present and working fully.

I can provide photos if needed. Could it be that, unexpectedly, the game actually doesn't contain the bricking firmware?

I did exactly the same process as you with the two updates and everything. It was then that I noticed that BootMii wasn't autobooting me to the HBC any more and I realised my boot2 had been updated.

The 4.1E update on PAL NSMB is a hybrid update. It's 4.1, plus a few new IOSes, plus the infamous boot2 update.

Edit: In reference to the more recent post, it's even more amazing that they didn't include the latest update, but did include the part of that update that is reputedly responsible for the bricking of Wiis.

Of course, it is possible that the new hybrid 4.1 update is a new way of updating boot2, but I'll wait for the HackMii blog to confirm that...

 

[Mama Robotnik]

I did exactly the same process as you with the two updates and everything. It was then that I noticed that BootMii wasn't autobooting me to the HBC any more and I realised my boot2 had been updated.

The 4.1E update on PAL NSMB is a hybrid update. It's 4.1, plus a few new IOSes, plus the infamous boot2 update.

Then I take it all back!

So I have the dangerous update safely installed, but my homebrew channel is secure, at least at present...

The Wii Shop Channel is asking for a system update - I presume doing this will install 4.2 over 4.15 (?) and mess with boot2 again? Not to mention wipe the Homebrew Channel?

They like to make it complicated, don't they? A shame, as I have Wii Points to spend.

I wonder why Nintendo went with the hybrid firmware over 4.2 then?

Thanks for the prompt answer, by the way.

 

[Clipper]

Then I take it all back!

So I have the dangerous update safely installed, but my homebrew channel is secure, at least at present...

The Wii Shop Channel is asking for a system update - I presume doing this will install 4.2 over 4.15 (?) and mess with boot2 again? Not to mention wipe the Homebrew Channel?

They like to make it complicated, don't they? A shame, as I have Wii Points to spend.

I wonder why Nintendo went with the hybrid firmware over 4.2 then?

Thanks for the prompt answer, by the way.

You are actually safe from the 4.2 update. It will not update boot2 again. Basically, your Wii would either have been susceptible to this update or not. By not bricking, you have proved it isn't susceptible and it would be safe even if they did try to overwrite it again (although a boot2v5 or later could cause problems).

It could wipe the HBC, but if you installed the latest version of the HBC, it won't. You would need to install IOS249 and IOS222/223 again, though.

As for spending your points, I've had a method to access the Wii Shop without updating the Wii since the update came out in the first place. I think it might have even been within 24 hours of the release of 4.2.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

You are actually safe from the 4.2 update. It will not update boot2 again. Basically, your Wii would either have been susceptible to this update or not. By not bricking, you have proved it isn't susceptible and it would be safe even if they did try to overwrite it again (although a boot2v5 or later could cause problems).

It could wipe the HBC, but if you installed the latest version of the HBC, it won't. You would need to install IOS249 and IOS222/223 again, though.

As for spending your points, I've had a method to access the Wii Shop without updating the Wii since the update came out in the first place. I think it might have even been within 24 hours of the release of 4.2.

Thanks, I think I understand my Wii's status much better now. And I missed this Shop Channel FAQ, thanks for pointing that out, will get right on it. As I'm not definitely on 4.2, I should use the "Method 1: WiiSCU" approach, correct?