Deadwood is on a whole other level above GoT.
Oh, it's getting there.
Deadwood is on a whole other level above GoT.
No problem.
Oh, it's getting there.
are the chapters referenced to by character title rather than name one-offs in AFFC?
Like, "The Prophet" or "The Captain of the Guards". Why the change in convention?
are the chapters referenced to by character title rather than name one-offs in AFFC?
Like, "The Prophet" or "The Captain of the Guards". Why the change in convention?
are the chapters referenced to by character title rather than name one-offs in AFFC?
Like, "The Prophet" or "The Captain of the Guards". Why the change in convention?
there were also at least four people watching this thread with nothing to post over the last hour, I'm not exactly derailing anything.There is a book thread for this
are the chapters referenced to by character title rather than name one-offs in AFFC?
Like, "The Prophet" or "The Captain of the Guards". Why the change in convention?
Some characters do it and they aren't one-offs. I think GRRM's idea was to use it for "guest POVs" and liked it enough that he started to do it all over the place.
I love GoT, but it's not in the same league as Deadwood. It's not even playing the same sport. In GoT, you're talking about one of the better shows currently airing. In Deadwood, you're talking about one of the very best (and in the discussion for the best) television shows in history.
Plywood, what're you using to make GIFs? I'm using GIF Brewery, and I can't seem to recreate the normal fluidity and speed of the show within the GIF.
Anyone figure out what tune Tyrion was whistling in Ep.2?
Yeah, I meant three.
Game of Thrones is 12 episodes in. Those of us who have read the books - we know were simply at the foot of a mountain of climax. I think I consider it on par with some of the greatest shows because I know what its potential is. To someone watching it fresh, they don't have the bias I do. So when I see people say Deadwood couldn't be on the same tier of Game of Thrones I need to remember you didn't say A Song of Ice and Fire. Heh.
Photoshop.
I use this to cut out a mp4 clip from the episode. I then import into photoshop and make the gif from there.
I read the first three books too. Yes, its a great source. And like I said, I love the show, so I'm paying it no disrespect. But David Milch's writing is a cut above this and most other shows. It's that he is that good, not that everyone else is that bad.
Man, I know you love that show but I personally don't hold Deadwood as high as you. I could see it in a top 10 if you're really into the western setting. The three* season run hinders it a lot.
Yeah, I meant three.
Game of Thrones is 12 episodes in. Those of us who have read the books - we know were simply at the foot of a mountain of climax. I think I consider it on par with some of the greatest shows because I know what potential it has. To someone watching it fresh, they don't have the bias I do. So when I see people say Deadwood couldn't be on the same tier of Game of Thrones I need to remember you didn't say A Song of Ice and Fire. Heh.
By the middle of the entire shows run this show will be on a whole new level.
Oh, it's getting there.
GoT is good, and if adapted to its max potential I think the show could be stunning, but as of right now it's just good, sometimes great - not on the level of a show like The Wire or Breaking Bad (I haven't seen Deadwood). The writing is simply too inconsistent imo. The show often loses its footing the more it strays from the novels. That's not to say I'm a purist who hates any change - in fact I like most of the changes they make that advance the story quicker (like making Bronn captain of the Gold Cloaks). But some of the invented scenes are quite bad imo, and attempts to make certain characters more complex don't always work. A lot of the invented dialogue just doesn't sound natural, such as Shae's ridiculous "the city smells like cum...and makes me want to fuck" nonsense, or Viserys discussing the dragons in S1.
It's one of the best shows on television, but I don't see it reaching Olympian heights with Weiss and Benioff
GoT is good, and if adapted to its max potential I think the show could be stunning, but as of right now it's just good, sometimes great - not on the level of a show like The Wire or Breaking Bad (I haven't seen Deadwood). The writing is simply too inconsistent imo. The show often loses its footing the more it strays from the novels. That's not to say I'm a purist who hates any change - in fact I like most of the changes they make that advance the story quicker (like making Bronn captain of the Gold Cloaks). But some of the invented scenes are quite bad imo, and attempts to make certain characters more complex don't always work. A lot of the invented dialogue just doesn't sound natural, such as Shae's ridiculous "the city smells like cum...and makes me want to fuck" nonsense, or Viserys discussing the dragons in S1.
It's one of the best shows on television, but I don't see it reaching Olympian heights with Weiss and Benioff
Yep, and I have to give a special mention to the scene between Littlefinger and Cersei in episode one not only was it a terrible scene it was also incredibly out of character for LF, not to mention that he didn't even went out to search for Arya they both seem to have forgotten that little confrontation.
And oh man, Molten Crown finisher.
Just imagine a lo-fi 8-bit sound version of "A Crown Fo Uh King"
OH MY GOD
i can sympathize with the writers. Littlefinger is a major character who needs a strong, leading actor to be cast and introduced from season one. That said, he doesn't really have a lot to do for a while. So the problem becomes multilayered. How do we keep Gillen earning his salary as a full-time cast member when he isn't in the source material all that much? And, perhaps even more importantly, how do we make sure the audience remember who this guy is?I loved Cersei in the scene, especially her display of power. And while I liked the scene overall, writing-wise it struck me as a bad fanfiction. I hate being "That Guy" focused on the books, but I just really thought LF's behavior was out of character. It would be as if there was a scene in S1 with Ned Stark drunk in a brothel slapping asses. I really think the writers almost seem obligated to give Gillen scenes to justify hiring him. He's a great actor deserving a good role, and perhaps LF just isn't it (if this is how the writers want to use him).
Overall the lack of subtlety is a problem not just with that scene, but the show in general. Everything is explicit and in your face. I get that this isn't The Wire and needs to help viewers, but even an overt show like Spartacus has more subtlety.
The Western setting barely impacts its merit.
It's a Communal setting.
I love GoT, but it's not in the same league as Deadwood. It's not even playing the same sport. In GoT, you're talking about one of the better shows currently airing. In Deadwood, you're talking about one of the very best (and in the discussion for the best) television shows in history.
Agreed. It definitely doesn't stand high in the all-time HBO totem pole at this pont. The writing and the conversations the characters hold are just a little too weird and unnatural sometimes.
i can sympathize with the writers. Littlefinger is a major character who needs a strong, leading actor to be cast and introduced from season one. That said, he doesn't really have a lot to do for a while. So the problem becomes multilayered. How do we keep Gillen earning his salary as a full-time cast member when he isn't in the source material all that much? And, perhaps even more importantly, how do we make sure the audience remember who this guy is?
I don't envy the writers at all.
Loved the scene as a definition of real power.Yep, and I have to give a special mention to the scene between Littlefinger and Cersei in episode one not only was it a terrible scene it was also incredibly out of character for LF, not to mention that he didn't even went out to search for Arya they both seem to have forgotten that little confrontation.
- WiC.net: Casting Season Three: Mance Rayder *some ASoS spoilers*
Please spoiler tag discussion as necessary (e.g. attributes, plot points from past where we are in the tv series, other characters that haven't been introduced yet, etc...) Also note that you can use the "A Song of Ice and Fire -- **Unmarked Spoilers For All Books including ADWD**" thread if you want to talk about this without spoiler tags.
- WiC.net: Casting Season Three: Mance Rayder *some ASoS spoilers*
Please spoiler tag discussion as necessary (e.g. attributes, plot points from past where we are in the tv series, other characters that haven't been introduced yet, etc...) Also note that you can use the "A Song of Ice and Fire -- **Unmarked Spoilers For All Books including ADWD**" thread if you want to talk about this without spoiler tags.
No, don't worry about it. Character names are fine.Errmm... should I also spoiler-tag the name of the characters? I mean, Oona's is public knowledge, right?
But some of the invented scenes are quite bad imo, and attempts to make certain characters more complex don't always work. A lot of the invented dialogue just doesn't sound natural, such as Shae's ridiculous "the city smells like cum...and makes me want to fuck" nonsense, or Viserys discussing the dragons in S1.
It's one of the best shows on television, but I don't see it reaching Olympian heights with Weiss and Benioff