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GameBoy Evolution Speculation
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radioheadrule83
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What I want is not necessarily another PSP. Nor should it be a GB Micro. I'd like it to be sized somewhere inbetween if possible. It should be well powered, within the constraints of being pocket-friendly and having a great battery life.
If it plays solid state media and doesn't have a door, the thing should live longer too (I mean in terms of avoiding damage). I have this fear that my PSP's UMD slot may go the way of some latter day Mini Disc player equivilents. They still work, but they're a bit wobbly.
Another option: they could team up with a cellphone manufacturer, or more than one of them. Put together the game hardware, and the format that will run on it, and allow phone manufacturers to include it in their phones. I'm thinking of it the same way apple got iTunes onto the Motorolor ROKR. It'd kill off any further moves by the mobile industry to move in on that hardware 'turf', and given recent events, companies like Nokia may even be receptive.
If it plays solid state media and doesn't have a door, the thing should live longer too (I mean in terms of avoiding damage). I have this fear that my PSP's UMD slot may go the way of some latter day Mini Disc player equivilents. They still work, but they're a bit wobbly.
Another option: they could team up with a cellphone manufacturer, or more than one of them. Put together the game hardware, and the format that will run on it, and allow phone manufacturers to include it in their phones. I'm thinking of it the same way apple got iTunes onto the Motorolor ROKR. It'd kill off any further moves by the mobile industry to move in on that hardware 'turf', and given recent events, companies like Nokia may even be receptive.
radioheadrule83
Banned
They also formed a Nintendo Mobile service. http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=6417
Its limited to images, ringtones and other information at the moment, but in that hypothetical eventuality it could also offer games.
Its limited to images, ringtones and other information at the moment, but in that hypothetical eventuality it could also offer games.
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
I'd fully support the idea that the DS is the "new gameboy". I do hope that the next handheld is called Gameboy, but includes a touchscreen/dual screen set up. The brand is just too powerful to throw away, and calling each new system "ds" would start to get redundant.
Wouldn't a new gameboy be like... anti Nintendo?
When they say next gameboy it sounds like the next itineration of the GB line, what would it offer over the DS line then? Prettier grafx? It would be pretty hipocrital of Nintendo to release a new GB that offers nothing new to the table just nicer grafx when they have been talking about how grafx shouldn't be the whole equation in next gen games.
The third pillar stuff was just fluff. Just in case DS fails we could say we were experimenting...
It could feature a touch screen but then again should it be called DS2 then?
When they say next gameboy it sounds like the next itineration of the GB line, what would it offer over the DS line then? Prettier grafx? It would be pretty hipocrital of Nintendo to release a new GB that offers nothing new to the table just nicer grafx when they have been talking about how grafx shouldn't be the whole equation in next gen games.
The third pillar stuff was just fluff. Just in case DS fails we could say we were experimenting...
It could feature a touch screen but then again should it be called DS2 then?
radioheadrule83
Banned
GBA isn't dead... software production has definately slowed down, but I'm not sure they're gonna abandon the third pillar idea just yet. They will sell two handheld platforms if they can imo.
captainbiotch
Banned
I want it to be capable of GC graphics, have dual joysticks, and be able to play all the games I download on the Revolution. And I want some connectivity!
Speculation? Nintendo will disappoint me.
Speculation? Nintendo will disappoint me.
Ninja Scooter
Member
GBA and DS should merge with the next evolution of NIntendo's handheld. Give me one bigass, PSP sized touch screen, GC-level graphical power, maybe even GC disc media, and compatibility with the Revolution's download service to take classic games on the road.
Hydro_Alexis
Banned
Nintendo just give me
ability to play gamecube games
gameboy micro type screen
and im sold.
ability to play gamecube games
gameboy micro type screen
and im sold.
Gaia Theory
Member
The real question is - What are developers saying about it? :lol
Azure Dream
Member
Pimpbaa said:
I liked it, heck, back when we first didn't know what the big deal about the DS was, I thought that was a strong possibility for what they were going to do. (The news timing and the partners involved seemed suspect.) I've never tried the things, but assuming they'd work well, I think that'd be a great addition to the next portable.
(For those who don't know, it's a screen technology that doesn't project or anything specifically, but you can look "into" it for about a... was it a meter?... of depth.)
Then again, that might give people VirtualBoy-style headaches.
As for when Nintendo will show it off, I think they might mutter something about it at the tail-end of 2006, show it off mid-2007, and MAYBE release it late 2007, maybe in Japan only. E3 2006 will probably be mainly Revolution time, and the reveal of a tweaked DS with a slightly better form-factor and more built-in internet/wifi features, like a WiFi-capable Pictochat with multiple colors. Nothing that'll keep out previous DS owners from buying future software, just like the GBA SP, but extra features to capitalize on the success of their WiFi Connect service.
Next handheld: graphics comparable to gamecube, downloadable games, new control system that nobody expects.
Or alternatively, a DS with slightly larger screens and nicer looking casing that everyone will go apeshit over and which will sell another 20 million DSs.
Or alternatively, a DS with slightly larger screens and nicer looking casing that everyone will go apeshit over and which will sell another 20 million DSs.
A single nice big touchscreen, roughly Gamecube-comparable graphics, and either a hard-drive, or large inbuilt flash storage. I've said it before, and I really do believe that the Revolution's retro-download service is Nintendo "dipping a toe in the water" of a fully download-based distribution method for games. The next handheld will take this to the next step, with all games downloaded over WiFi, and the Revolution's successor will complete the cycle for home consoles.
With regard to the 3D screen, although I've never seen the tech in person, it'd be very nice for Nintendo to adopt it.
With regard to the 3D screen, although I've never seen the tech in person, it'd be very nice for Nintendo to adopt it.
I want to see some new tek, not just a PSP buster.
How about some of that LCD paper or this
http://www.gizmag.co.uk/go/4880/
Freaking 360 degree LED display.
Either way the limiting factor is new battery technology. Given that new fangled Sony MP3 player can get a charge of 3 hours in 3 minutes its getting pretty damn clase.
How about some of that LCD paper or this
http://www.gizmag.co.uk/go/4880/
Freaking 360 degree LED display.
Either way the limiting factor is new battery technology. Given that new fangled Sony MP3 player can get a charge of 3 hours in 3 minutes its getting pretty damn clase.
Tyrone Slothrop
Banned
*sigh
the DS pretty much is the successor to the GBA; if a "GB Next" comes out it'll be its successor only in name. yeah, it's arguably a third pillar, but ... :-/
... i'd like to see a 3-d hologram portable, like somebody said above. i don't see where else portables would go after the psp and DS
the DS pretty much is the successor to the GBA; if a "GB Next" comes out it'll be its successor only in name. yeah, it's arguably a third pillar, but ... :-/
... i'd like to see a 3-d hologram portable, like somebody said above. i don't see where else portables would go after the psp and DS
And FFV, FFVI, Drill Dozer, and Mario Tennis.jj984jj said:
Possibly Yggdra Union too if it manages to be good despite what has to be the worst map screen/movement screen since the days of the Atari. [Edit: Never mind. I just remembered the similar dungeon navigation screen in Soul Calibur II.]
i want it to have a mini HDD, much like we see in MP3 players these days, a touchscreen, wifi, clamshell design, screen no bigger than the SP's but with a higher resolution and.... i'll think of some other things later.
edit: oh yeah, and absolutely no 3d capabilities whatsoever
edit: oh yeah, and absolutely no 3d capabilities whatsoever
Haleon said:
Actually, maybe that's what they have planned for the redesign for the DS - If the whole DS thing was originally gameboy, but they chose another name in case it was a failure (and not sully the GB name). What could happen is the redesign of the DS simply becomes GameBoy DS, and to fully appreicate the GB name, it can once again play all GB games.
That way, they can brign the GameBoy name back into it, keep the success of the DS strong, and keep raking in money.
Maybe they will add some mulimedia capability to clash it with iPod. I hear they are quite popular.
soundwave05
Member
Why would they drop the "two tier" philosophy? It's been working very well for them thus far. I don't see it really all that different from i-Pod/i-Pod nano.
Here's roughly what I see Nintendo doing ...
Summer/Fall 2006- Redesigned DS (smaller/sexier) for $99.99 ... GB Micro slowly phased out
Spring/Summer 2007- DS SP to $79.99, Game Boy Next launches at $129.99-$149.99 US.
I'd expect Game Boy Next to be more compact than the PSP, but feature a better chipset, one large touchscreen, solid-state media based, support for SD Cards (Wifi downloads, MP3/MP4 media playback) and of course WiFi.
Nintendo dropping the Game Boy line is also ridiculous. It's the most powerful brand in the game business after Playstation. You don't throw away something like that overnight.
Here's roughly what I see Nintendo doing ...
Summer/Fall 2006- Redesigned DS (smaller/sexier) for $99.99 ... GB Micro slowly phased out
Spring/Summer 2007- DS SP to $79.99, Game Boy Next launches at $129.99-$149.99 US.
I'd expect Game Boy Next to be more compact than the PSP, but feature a better chipset, one large touchscreen, solid-state media based, support for SD Cards (Wifi downloads, MP3/MP4 media playback) and of course WiFi.
Nintendo dropping the Game Boy line is also ridiculous. It's the most powerful brand in the game business after Playstation. You don't throw away something like that overnight.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
It would be... a name.inthezone said:
Competition would force advancement. It's also silly to just assume there won't be anything new added in. We already know they considered having tilt functionality in the DS. With Revolution focusing so much on motion, that still sounds like something they could implement in their next handheld.
Sure, but there's obviously going to be a next Nintendo handheld, and we'll probably start to hear all sorts of rumors within the next two years. Of course, considering DS's name wasn't absolutely finalized until a few months before launch, it's totally premature to guess what the naming will be on their next machine.Dreamfixx said:
I'm just having trouble seeing how it can work in reverse. Right now, the situation is that the GBA is the option for developers hoping to sell to a larger audience, for games that won't take advantage of the DS's extra features. If there was a new powerful machine that was more like a GBA/PSP than DS, then it'd be a mish-mash. Cheap DS for lesser graphics but extra functionality, versus pricier Game Boy option for prettier games that wouldn't make such good use of two screens, touch screens, or mic?soundwave05 said:
Personally, I think some of these predictions about 2007 are really stretching it. DS came 3.5 years after GBA, but I think we all know that was because of PSP. Surely in the long run Nintendo doesn't want to be introducing an entirely new portable platform every 3 years or less.
Overnight, no. But if over several years the success is phased into some other name, who knows?
soundwave05
Member
There's nothing wrong with a new portable iteration every few years.
Handhelds are not consoles, consumers have shown time and time again that they'll buy new portable gizmos more often.
That trend applies not only to Game Boy/DS, but to i-Pod, cell phones, etc.
They'll need a higher-end portable to compete against the PSP eventually anyway ... as the PSP drops in price. They can't keep dropping to DS far below what it hits at $79.99. PSP will eventually be $150 or less, probably by mid-2007.
But sandwhiching the PSP between a cheaper/budget oriented DS ($79.99) and a higher end system ($130-$150) will leave the PSP as the odd system out IMO.
I think the two tier strategy is good because there isn't a specific portable audience. Some people are willing to pay a bit more, as we're seeing with the DS, but the GBA is still a relevant platform because some people want an absolute budget machine for their portable needs. A DS/GBN combo could ensure that.
Plus Nintendo has a large back catalog now of GameCube titles/engines which they could easily port to the Game Boy Next if the system is powerful enough.
Handhelds are not consoles, consumers have shown time and time again that they'll buy new portable gizmos more often.
That trend applies not only to Game Boy/DS, but to i-Pod, cell phones, etc.
They'll need a higher-end portable to compete against the PSP eventually anyway ... as the PSP drops in price. They can't keep dropping to DS far below what it hits at $79.99. PSP will eventually be $150 or less, probably by mid-2007.
But sandwhiching the PSP between a cheaper/budget oriented DS ($79.99) and a higher end system ($130-$150) will leave the PSP as the odd system out IMO.
I think the two tier strategy is good because there isn't a specific portable audience. Some people are willing to pay a bit more, as we're seeing with the DS, but the GBA is still a relevant platform because some people want an absolute budget machine for their portable needs. A DS/GBN combo could ensure that.
Plus Nintendo has a large back catalog now of GameCube titles/engines which they could easily port to the Game Boy Next if the system is powerful enough.
