GC owner about the Component cables

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Will the component cables work with games that do not support progressive scan? I know PS2 and Xbox cables will (you just don't get the high def progressive scan, more like a little better than S-Video). I figure they would still work but since the GC has that separate digital out I can't be sure.

Thanks :D
 
Well duh, yes it does.

You think component cable-owning GC gamers can only play progressive scan capable games? :lol
 
The GC was the only console to handle the whole progressive thing properly IMO. It asks you when you power up.

Sad that current GCs don't support the cables.
 
Considering that I have a non-proscan television with component inputs and the Nintendo component cables may everything look ever so purty, I'd have to say yes, they do work.
 
cool, just want to make sure before tracking down a set. Don't want to waste the cash becasue them cables are on the expensive side now.
 
DaCocoBrova said:
The GC was the only console to handle the whole progressive thing properly IMO. It asks you when you power up.

Sad that current GCs don't support the cables.
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I think the xbox did it a bit better. You just tell it what your TV supports, and it will do the best it can.
 
Oh and since I got you component cables guys here, any good component cable switch boxes out there. Price is not an issue, just want a nice high quality box that I can run my consoles through (not a receiver just a switch).
 
DaCocoBrova said:
The GC was the only console to handle the whole progressive thing properly IMO. It asks you when you power up.

Sad that current GCs don't support the cables.
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How does that work? Does it display a dialog box? And if it does, does it display a dialog box in progressive or in interlaced? Either way, someone has to get screwed. I like the "set it and leave it" method best - xbox. Of course, sine the dash isn't progressive it doesn't work on people with VGA adapters, but since the xbox wasn't designed to support that I can't really hold it against them.
 
Nerevar said:
How does that work? Does it display a dialog box? And if it does, does it display a dialog box in progressive or in interlaced? Either way, someone has to get screwed. I like the "set it and leave it" method best - xbox. Of course, sine the dash isn't progressive it doesn't work on people with VGA adapters, but since the xbox wasn't designed to support that I can't really hold it against them.
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It's a "Yes/No" (or Enable/Disable) dialog box, and I'd assume it's interlaced until you specify you want progressive.
 
Did any third party make comp. cables for GC? I'd pick some up if they were cheap enough.



And on a sidenote I'm confused - the component cable uses the digital connector? Component is an analog signal...
 
Some games you have to hold down the B button. When I first got the thing I thought it was automatic like the PS2 and Xbox. I don't like this method and I don't like it asking me.

Edit: Only Nintendo makes them last time I checked.
 
DaCocoBrova said:
The GC was the only console to handle the whole progressive thing properly IMO. It asks you when you power up.

Sad that current GCs don't support the cables.
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What is wrong with the X Box setup?
 
.hacked said:
Oh and since I got you component cables guys here, any good component cable switch boxes out there. Price is not an issue, just want a nice high quality box that I can run my consoles through (not a receiver just a switch).
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Since you said price wasn't an issue:

http://www.audioauthority.com/aacconsumers/1154c.html

Great component switcher, I remember a few other forum members having the same one. I've had mine for over a year and it was worth every penny. You can probably find it cheaper too.
 
I have a regular CRT (curved) TV (though I'm upping to a flat screen CRT shortly) and still use the component cables. No Prog Scan, obviously, but it still makes for a world of difference. Didn't get quite a jump in quality with the PS2, however.
 
actually, nintendo doesn't have any in stock. I checked lik-sang but they were like $35 bucks. Where is another place to look?
 
I was at a friends house last night playing RE 4 and we hooked up his GC with my component cables and booted progressive scan the image doubled (left to right) with a line down the middle. we ruled out the switch since we tried it in the TV too.

I wonder if it was my cables that are fucked or his digital out?
 
you have to hold down the 'b' button while the game boots and it pops up a dialog box asking yes or no, after you answer 'yes' you don't have to hold down the 'b' button anymore as any progressive scan game will ask you yes or no

if you don't hit anything it will automatically assume 'yes' after 5 seconds or so and switch to progressive scan.


The Xbox dashboard is progressive btw after an update they did a while ago. Hold down both triggers and press in both thumbsticks to toggle it on / off. (assuming you have a live account and have updated your xbox from factory settings.
 
btrboyev said:
as far as I know component is digital.
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nope.

Edit: To clarify, all current game technology outputs are analog. The only "digital" outputs that are currently in widespread use in home video are DVI / HDMI. Both of those are digital, but are actually transmitting an analog waveform through the copper wire (the end result is a series of 1's and 0's though, so you have to worry less about interference than any other analog signal). The only "pure" digital output is optical, currently only used for audio.
 
.hacked said:
Oh and since I got you component cables guys here, any good component cable switch boxes out there. Price is not an issue, just want a nice high quality box that I can run my consoles through (not a receiver just a switch).
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What's the difference between a receiver and a switchbox?

I need something that'll let me plug a bunch of components into the one component input I have on my plasma.
 
to clarify the analog / digital thing. The GC's output is a digital output , the GC component cable has a digital to analog converter chip in the base of it which is why its so expensive and why no real 3rd parties make one.

It was a gamble for them just in case something like HDMI had been adopted sooner, they could have easily supported it with a different cable.

On the upside It helps the GC's image quality while using component cables.
 
DaCocoBrova said:
The GC was the only console to handle the whole progressive thing properly IMO. It asks you when you power up.

Sad that current GCs don't support the cables.
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I don't know, I think Nintendo presently has the worse progressive situation of all the consoles. The damn cable just to use it is expensive and only available from Nintendo. You can't go to a store to pick it up, there's no third party options, and you basically have to force a game into a progressive state rather than it automatically doing it. Now the system doesn't even have the necessary video output port to use it. Go, Nintendo - a lack of options is teh innovative.
 
btrboyev said:
actually, nintendo doesn't have any in stock. I checked lik-sang but they were like $35 bucks. Where is another place to look?
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I saw on the GCN board on GameFAQs that someone bought it from them and got it last week even though it says it's out of stock on their site. Lik-sang and play-asia are both about the same price while on Nintendo's site it's $30 US.
 
I think Nintendo presently has the worse progressive situation of all the consoles
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As opposed to the PS2 that also has to be forced into progressive mode on a game by game basis?
 
tedtropy said:
I don't know, I think Nintendo presently has the worse progressive situation of all the consoles. The damn cable just to use it is expensive and only available from Nintendo. You can't go to a store to pick it up, there's no third party options, and you basically have to force a game into a progressive state rather than it automatically doing it. Now the system doesn't even have the necessary video output port to use it. Go, Nintendo - a lack of options is teh innovative.
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Not exactly true. You only have to do the hold B button move once if you haven't unplugged you machine. Every time you boot up the question will pop up with yes being automatically highlighted (I know this very well because I use a transcoder, so I can't even see what is being asked). All you have to do is boot up the system and press the A button after the intro.

It's too bad about the cabel situation, though. They honestly tried to prepare for furture connections and made a bad bet this generation.
 
The digital video thing is a big shame. Shame on all of you who still insist on non digital tv's. Its amazing how many people actually judge a tv based on crappy RF or VHS feed and in shops too.
 
Deg said:
The digital video thing is a big shame. Shame on all of you who still insist on non digital tv's. Its amazing how many people actually judge a tv based on crappy RF or VHS feed and in shops too.
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Dont' worry, they're all going to be fucked in about 6-7 years or so when all broadcasting shifts to digital and the local broadcasters return all their analog channels to the FCC. Say hello to buying a $200 set-top box!
 
The digital video thing is a big shame. Shame on all of you who still insist on non digital tv's. Its amazing how many people actually judge a tv based on crappy RF or VHS feed and in shops too.
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Thats a little harsh..I'm sure most people would like to have a nice digital tv, however not everybody can afford them at this point.
 
Some games you have to hold down the B button. When I first got the thing I thought it was automatic like the PS2 and Xbox. I don't like this method and I don't like it asking me.
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How can you not like that? It asks you, you confirm and you're off. I don't like the XBOXs method because it's too transparent. I can't tell if it's progressive or not half the time.

The PS2 isn't even worth mentioning as so few games have progressive scan, and enabling it often hinders game performnace a bit. Not to mention it makes the games look worse. PS2 games benefit more from sh!tty IQ more than any other console IMO.
 
DaCocoBrova said:
The GC was the only console to handle the whole progressive thing properly IMO. It asks you when you power up.

Sad that current GCs don't support the cables.
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The XBOX method is absolutely superior and is where the next consoles will likely head. I believe the number of XBOX games that don't run in progressive scan number in the single digits, so you couldn't possibly believe it makes more sense to hold down a button when booting EVERY game...
 
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