Germany cancels Verizon contract over snooping fear

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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28047877

The German government has cancelled a contract with Verizon over concern that US firms may be giving data to US authorities.

Verizon has provided internet services to a number of German government departments and the current contract was due to run out in 2015.

German Interior Ministry spokesman Tobias Plate said: "There are indications that Verizon is legally required to provide certain things to the NSA, and that's one of the reasons the cooperation with Verizon won't continue".

"Furthermore, the ties revealed between foreign intelligence agencies and firms in the wake of the US National Security Agency affair, show that the German government needs a very high level of security for its critical networks," he said.

This was coming. I wonder how hard the European retaliation will affect American business in Europe.
 
Germany is a bit different from the rest of Europe, because for a lot of German citizens STASI and their hijinx are still a very fresh memory. Wasn't Wal-Mart kicked out of Germany because they encouraged employees to keep tabs on eachother?
 
I wasn't even aware that Verizon offers any kind of service in Germany. Isn't this article just about the likes of the German embassy in the US?
 
German is looking like a nice place to live...my dear great granmda probably rolled in her grave for me saying that, but the more I study about the current state of Germany, the more I like it.
 
Germany is a bit different from the rest of Europe, because for a lot of German citizens STASI and their hijinx are still a very fresh memory. Wasn't Wal-Mart kicked out of Germany because they encouraged employees to keep tabs on eachother?

Walmart crashed in Europe because it's largely antiunion, was against employees hooking up and basically refused to understand and adhere to normal ass European corporate culture.

Also, LILD and ALDI already fill the trashy supermarket niche well enough.
 
I wasn't even aware that Verizon offers any kind of service in Germany. Isn't this article just about the likes of the German embassy in the US?

No.

Also: the Verizon contract was made in 2005.

https://netzpolitik.org/2014/arbeit...tag-bezieht-internet-von-us-anbieter-verizon/

It seems that this article at netzpolitik.org is effectively responsible for the cancellation. The article was published 3 days ago.

Verizon screwed over
And another blow to the NSA

I like this

win-win
 
Lidl and Aldi have actually become pretty upmarket, at least in terms of looks. prices are still very cheap which is why they are having such a success in the UK.
Same in the Netherlands. The local Lidl recently got a makeover. I'm pretty sure the Lidl's profit had doubled. Also the economie crisis helped a thema a lot
 
I'm okay with this. There are consequences to bending over for the government without even token resistance.

Lidl and Aldi have actually become pretty upmarket, at least in terms of looks. prices are still very cheap which is why they are having such a success in the UK.


Aldi in my town is getting either a second location, or it's moving to a bigger store. Either way, I'm pleased. I love Aldi. Low prices, plus all the Amish/Menonites around here shop there so we get to see horse drawn buggies from time to time.
 
yeah, no. they canceled their contract after it was made public. before that they couldn't care less.

nevertheless, that's some fine investigative journalism, uncovering information hidden away in publicly available whois information, full text searchable for your convenience.

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inetnum: 193.17.232.0 - 193.17.247.255
netname: BUNDESTAG
descr: Deutscher Bundestag
descr: 11011 Berlin
country: DE

% Information related to '193.17.232.0/22'

route: 193.17.232.0/22
descr: Deutscher Bundestag
origin: AS702
 
Lidl and Aldi have actually become pretty upmarket, at least in terms of looks. prices are still very cheap which is why they are having such a success in the UK.

Really?? I don't shop there, but the last I was in one (south London) it was decidedly ghetto. Pretty nasty stock and third world level merchandising. We cooked the hell out of the mince that we bought from there.
 
This is the best way to get the government to change its spying practices . . . have US corporations lose contracts and those US corporations will slap US politicians into changing the spying practices.


And that is a sad state affairs but at least this will get the job done.
 
Just a follow up on the impact of Snowden leak on american tech companies.

Tech takes hit from NSA

The Hill said:
Germany’s announcement that it was ending its deal with Verizon, for instance, was a big win for Deutsche Telekom, a Verizon competitor who will step in to take on the services.

The company has previously advertised itself as an alternative to American companies, which many see as tied to the NSA. After the Snowden revelations first emerged last year, the company took part in a broader campaign to convince Germans to move off American networks called “Email Made in Germany,” which promised “high security and data protection standards.”

Deutsche Telekom is far from alone.

F-Secure, for instance, a Finnish cloud storage company similar to Dropbox or Google, advertises the fact that “its roots are in Finland, where privacy is protected by law.”

All told, the NSA’s actions could cause American Web companies to lose as much as $35 billion by 2016, according to analysis from the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation. That would represent a loss of 20 percent of the foreign market.

Forrester Research, a research firm, predicted that the losses could be as high as $180 billion over the next two years.

The Hill said:
In the meantime, President Obama has announced a series of measures to stop snooping on friendly foreign leaders, grant some new privacy protections to foreigners and disclose more details about what agencies like the NSA are up to.

Companies, too, from Google to Comcast have announced plans to encrypt more data and share as much as they can about the information the government requests from them.

So far, however, those efforts have done little to stop the bleeding.

“It is not blowing over,” Microsoft general counsel Brad Smith said at a conference in San Francisco last week.

“In June of 2014, it is clear it is getting worse, not better.”
 
Lidl and Aldi have actually become pretty upmarket, at least in terms of looks. prices are still very cheap which is why they are having such a success in the UK.

In the States, at least Aldi is typically a lot cleaner than Wal-Mart.
 
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