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[nckillthegrimace]

Because everything about the storyline and cutscenes are basically straight out of an anime. The style, the characters, the dialogue, the action, everything. If it used 2D animation instead of 3D character models, there wouldn't even be a question.

Oh, so it's like wrestling.

 

[Hot Coldman]

I would use spoiler tags just in case. Some people want to avoid roster reveals.

I kinda wish I had. Although, on the other hand, the leak has only gotten me more excited.

I figure THAT CHARACTER is gonna be the one that gets the last reveal trailer before launch, but sure, courtesy and that.

 

[MiniBossBattle]

I see MGS similar to American action movies. Its like finding relation between Japanese Samurai movies vs Spaghetti westerns. When I see style, many of the shots crib scenes from Blackhawk Down and Rambo and Western Films (with a Japanese twist). I don't know many animes have characters in the 60s stuck behind enemy lines, alone, and dealing with both political and mentor conflict.

Oh, so it's like wrestling.

Just threw up a little.

 

[eznark]

Oh, so it's like wrestling.

Nailed it

 

[ArjanN]

I don't see it. Its anime because it's Japanese? Because Otacon is Otaku? I am willing to believe its japanese Die Hard/Rambo First Blood/Lethal Weapon over moe high school drama.

Dan is a singularity. He can love MGS and hate Anime.

Dan already admitted on the podcast he kind of just assumes he hates anime.

Like a lot of people really, which IMO is usually based on the old image anime fans have of being huge dorks/perverts.

In reality (again IMO) anime is too broad to hate. It's basically a medium, not a genre. Hating all anime is like hating all books, all movies etc, there's pretty much guaranteed to be something you do like.

 

[Antiwhippy]

I see MGS similar to American action movies. Its like finding relation between Japanese Samurai movies vs Spaghetti westerns. When I see style, many of the shots crib scenes from Blackhawk Down and Rambo and Western Films (with a Japanese twist). I don't know many animes have characters in the 60s stuck behind enemy lines, alone, and dealing with both political and mentor conflict.

You do know that there are also anime that deal with such broad themes as political and mentor conflict right?

It's more the casual use of extreme, high-octane bullshit that makes MGS closer to anime than action movies. What kind of western action movie has ambiguously gay vampires, skating-bombers, cyborg ninjas, magic (explained away by nanomachines) and people who got taken over by their fucking arm? I don't doubt that kojima is inspired by hollywood action movies but he's putting it through a pretty heavy anime filter.

Just look at shows like darker than black, jormagund, ghost in the shell and black lagoon. So much closer tone-wise to MGS than blackhawk down or rambo.

 

[Fox318]

How could they forget Shaun White Skateboarding from Ubisoft?

the whole concept was about tearing up the environment, never bothered to play it though so I have no idea how well it realised the trailer above.

You mean STRIDE GUM SIMULATOR?

 

[LiK]

it's fucking anime. Kojima loves both American movies and anime and he combined them to create MGS. it's fucking anime.

deal with it Dan!

 

[Cygnus]

it's fucking anime. Kojima loves both American movies and anime and he combined them to create MGS. it's fucking anime.

deal with it Dan!

But anime sucks!

 

[JumpJeff84]

I've played all four mainline MGS games and I can't tell if I like 'em or not.

 

[firehawk12]

Oh, so it's like wrestling.

The only difference between wrestling and anime is that anime has giant robots. And in Metal Gear, they're called... well, Metal Gears.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

The only difference between wrestling and anime is that anime has giant robots. And in Metal Gear, they're called... well, Metal Gears.

Yeah, and wrestling is basically grown men role-playing and cosplaying while anime is pure fiction.

 

[Kusagari]

Seriously Metal Gear is an anime made by a western otaku.

Kojima's love for western cinema is obvious throughout the series but anime tropes are still everywhere.

 

[WrenchNinja]

But anime sucks!

Well so have metal gears after subsistence

 

[Anth0ny]

Metal Gear is anime as fuck.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

I love Dan. "Metal Gear isn't anime!!" is "aioli isn't mayo" redux.

It's wierd, I looked at MGS as being Hollywood as fuck from a Japanese guy. It's like watching Matrix media and going "Anime-influenced Americans? No way! Not seeing it!"

 

[eznark]

oh Brad.

"my prelaunch xbox one barely fit in my timbuk 2"

and the wine pictures were bougie

 

[Renpatsu]

Maybe this point is a bit too obvious for it to actually mean anything, but it's a misnomer to call MGS an anime... Because it is a game.

However if you want to say it was influenced heavily by movies, anime, military history then that'd be far more accurate.

Spoiler

It is wrestling.

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

I'm watching Danny's stream and I've got to say fuck Jeff's opinions of HL2. I don't care if Valve fail to release anything as genre crushing as the last two games, if it's simple a sequel to episode 2 that's as good as it's predecessor I'd be more than satisfied.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

"MGS: The Wrestling of Anime Games"

 

[Calibus]

Wow, only 6% of you have kids and 16% married?

Why are so many of you guys (97%) single?

Is single shaming a thing now? It's not that easy for everyone.

 

[eznark]

Is single shaming a thing now? It's not that easy for everyone.

 

[Sulaco]

In the emails portion of the podcast I think they should read gaming-related emails first as I almost missed a fascinating discussion about the end of the Dreamcast era due to skipping through food talk.

 

[Curufinwe]

Metal Gear is anime as fuck.

 

[funkystudent]

Dreamcast question was my email!

Great that that made it on the podcast and actually fostered some decent discussion.


Someone should write a book about about Segas exit from the console space. I would read that.

 

[Chuck]

In the emails portion of the podcast I think they should read gaming-related emails first as I almost missed a fascinating discussion about the end of the Dreamcast era due to skipping through food talk.

they read gaming related emails!??!?