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Giro d'Italia 2017 |OT|
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bobnowhere
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What the hell?
Yates as well, Landa and Thomas gone.
Yates as well, Landa and Thomas gone.
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
nasty, seems everyone is ok thankfully.
captscience
Member
What a disgrace. These types of incidents are happening at a ridiculous frequency.
I'd like to see Movistar sit up for a little bit.
I'd like to see Movistar sit up for a little bit.
Yeah, surely they can go slow for a km or two.
bobnowhere
Member
Yates almost back.
Someone from Sunweb was the one to hit the bike, is Dumoulin still up front?
Someone from Sunweb was the one to hit the bike, is Dumoulin still up front?
johancruijff
Banned
smfh
i went to Scafa to watch the tappa and just read about the incident
i went to Scafa to watch the tappa and just read about the incident
It was Wilco Kelderman. Dumoulin is in the front.
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
I am never one for slowing done the race.
Shit happens even to Sky, racing needs to continue
Shit happens even to Sky, racing needs to continue
It is also not like they have Froome here. Sky falling doesn't behead the competition.
bobnowhere
Member
In completely unrelated news, Keagan Girdlestone made his comeback to racing today finishing 55th in an Australian Race. He's the young guy who went through the back window of his team car, bled out on the spot and was thought to be dead. He still has weakness on his left side but amazing determination. He was part of Dimension Data's conti squad.
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
Holy shit, that sounds awful, never heard of that. When did that happen? Great that he is back racing.
Bob done.
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
Great to see Pozzo is still there.
bobnowhere
Member
About 10 months ago.
TJ gone, no idea why I put him on my fantasy team. Massive sort out.
Krujjswijck next to pop.
captscience
Member
I know it's pretty ridiculous in what's supposed to be a race but I always liked the gentlemanly honor of not taking advantage of misfortune.
Goddamn it Teejay.
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
I understand it, but it is something that will always favour the biggest teams. I always think just race,
Great to see Nibali looking so good and relaxed.
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
WTF would Nibali try out new gears for the first time?
The old Shanks curse.
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
lol, he was looking nice and relaxed. Guess he was on the ragged edge
I am impressed Pinot has risen to the challenge. Good move going for the Giro.
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
Great win.
minute ten down for Nibs, fuck. Still two weeks to go
))
minute ten down for Nibs, fuck. Still two weeks to go
))Great win.
minute ten down for Nibs, fuck. Still two weeks to go
Whoever you're cheering for, this was a nice stage for cycling fans in general.
Good to see the general standings ripped to shreds.
FrankCanada97
Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
How did the Dutch produce so many climbers? The Low Countries aren't exactly a mountainous region.
jakonovski
Member
Atlantic headwind.
We annexed l'alpe d'huez.
I went from 2nd to 2nd to last in a day :O
fantastic race, had a bit of everything and the race is far from over. all eyes will be on dumoulin and pinot during the time trials, the one place where a specialist can easily make up the 28" lead. quintana made that climb look effortless, but it's never easy getting a read on him. dumoulin and pinot looked completely gassed
the crash was unfortunate but i don't feel like the times need to be neutralized
and quintana better go all pink, tape included
the crash was unfortunate but i don't feel like the times need to be neutralized
and quintana better go all pink, tape included
bobnowhere
Member
Mines not looking too hot either!
Nibali just hanging on, Mollema ok...ish, Yates gone, TJ probably hasn't finished yet, Dennis gone home, Igor Anton has disappeared completely and Woods was a mistake. Hoping now that Sky is pretty much out Elissonde is given more freedom to attack and Gaviria cleans up all the flat stages.
Landa went down in that motorcycle incident as well. Guess he couldn't recover his form afterwards.
FrankCanada97
Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
Tom Dumoulin is going to massacre everyone, the stage 10 TT course is perfectly suited for him. I expect Quintana to lose a minute and a half to Dumoulin. If Dumoulin doesn't outright win the stage, then maybe Kiryienka will take the stage and salvage Sky's Giro.
FrankCanada97
Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
Wow, I didn't expect Quintana to lose that much time. You think Dumoulin has enough of a buffer to survive the multi-mountain stages?
If his form continues to be as good as at Blockhaus, he might be able to make it.
Likely. And there is another time trial coming up.
I really like Tom as a rider, but I think he has the same problem that Geraint does - fading in the final week.
I still think Nairo wins this Giro, but it got much harder with the time he lost today. Here is my logic...
1) Tom tends to fade in week 3.
2) Sunweb, without Kelderman, will leave him isolated in the high mountains.
3) Pinot, Nibali, and Quintana will essentially work together to push Tom down the hill as much as they can as early as they can.
4) The gaps on the final TT will not be as great as today. Dumoulin won't be front loaded with a rest day and will have full three weeks of racing in his legs. See point 1.
5) Movistar clearly brought the strongest team.
6) People are reading too much into Blockhaus. It was a single climb after a long day, but was essentially a TT effort for Dumoulin, and he rode it as such. When you have multiple climbs in a day is when he will be under difficulty.
Quintana needs to take back 3.5-5 minutes in the mountain, but I think that is possible. He also needs a minimum of 20-30 seconds on Pinot, which is harder.
I think the podium is either Pinot or Quintana on the top step, with Nibali or Dumoulin third. Nibali may crack, but he is like Coppi, all about the age and treachery, and the third week should be full of it.
What today probably signaled is that the double might be out of the question. If the Movistar team can inflict the pain on Nairo's behalf, he might not go into the red as much in the third week, but to make back the time he needs, he will either need to give up on the Tour, or give up on the Giro.
GamePnoy74
Member
Meanwhile in Cali...
...S(w)agan freelances through the peloton to win Stage 3 at Amgen. His Bora team is off to a good start with his win today and Rafał Majka with the GC.
Also Toms Skujiņ's nasty crash at Stage 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12OUjb6N7Ro
Thankfully he seems good now, despite road rash and a concussion.
...S(w)agan freelances through the peloton to win Stage 3 at Amgen. His Bora team is off to a good start with his win today and Rafał Majka with the GC.
Also Toms Skujiņ's nasty crash at Stage 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12OUjb6N7Ro
Thankfully he seems good now, despite road rash and a concussion.
(All I can watch on TV here in the US right now is Amgen, no Giro this year unfortunately...)
FrankCanada97
Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
That seemed pretty dangerous, he was wobbling around on his feet and nearly got hit by the chasing group. Did he finish the stage?
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
Immense performance from Tom.
Not sure if he has the legs to survive in the Alps with what will surely involve continuous attacks. I can't imagine any of the other favourites what him anywhere near two minutes of them heading into the final time trial.
Not sure if he has the legs to survive in the Alps with what will surely involve continuous attacks. I can't imagine any of the other favourites what him anywhere near two minutes of them heading into the final time trial.
bobnowhere
Member
He was withdraw later due to an internal concussion rule that Cannondale have, not sure if he finished the stage but he did remount for a while. He's alright, concussion and a broken collar bone.
Absolutely brutal from big Tom, it's going to be hard to claw it back from here. Nibali doesn't look great, though he didn't look great last year and still came through, so Movistar will have to smash every mountain stage from here on.
GamePnoy74
Member
He wasn't on the road for long when his team car pulled him over to stop and abandon the tour.
Though I'm doubtful Tom will be able to defend his jersey, I'm not so sure about comparissons with past years either.
He wasn't aiming for the General Classification then. He rode in service of others or saved himself for other tours.
This year eveything is aimed towards getting him at the top step.
Losing Wilco is a setback in that regard ofcourse but there are others more than capable of getting him where he needs to be.
Besides that (if they've half a brain) Dumoulin and Mollema will help eachother out for Nationalisms sake.
All that said, it is still a grand tour. For all you know a Carabinieri will show up out of nowhere and headbutt you out of the competition.
He wasn't aiming for the General Classification then. He rode in service of others or saved himself for other tours.
This year eveything is aimed towards getting him at the top step.
Losing Wilco is a setback in that regard ofcourse but there are others more than capable of getting him where he needs to be.
Besides that (if they've half a brain) Dumoulin and Mollema will help eachother out for Nationalisms sake.
All that said, it is still a grand tour. For all you know a Carabinieri will show up out of nowhere and headbutt you out of the competition.
BriareosGAF
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I just turned this on at your reminder and man is the stage 4 finish depressing. Strip malls and big box stores. They can't find anything more picturesque to compete with the shots from the Giro/Vuelta/TdF?
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