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[RBH]

Jobs personally called Gizmodo to request the phone back. Gizmodo’s response back to Steve:



Also:



And regarding Hogan:



And it was more than $5k:



And the charges:



More idiocy:



Gizmodo lied that he had tried to return it to the owner:


Read More http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/05/roommate-iphone/#ixzz0nwRJfXnK

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2010/05/iphone_affidavit.pdf
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/05/roommate-iphone/

What a mess. :lol

Holy shit. :lol

 

[Angry Grimace]

It drives me nuts when people call the newest model of iPhone the "iPhone 4G." It's not an iPhone 4G. 4G is a telecommunications standard, and the 3G in the iPhone 3G refers to the 3G cellular telecommunications standard.

I understand where the confusion comes from, but ugh.

 

[Technosteve]

It drives me nuts when people call the newest model of iPhone the "iPhone 4G." It's not an iPhone 4G. 4G is a telecommunications standard, and the 3G in the iPhone 3G refers to the 3G cellular telecommunications standard.

I understand where the confusion comes from, but ugh.

at this point, in the affidavit it's the 4G, also in the next generation of gsm is 4G but for CDMA it's LTE so eh..................................... nit picking

 

[DrFunk]

at this point, in the affidavit it's the 4G, also in the next generation of gsm is 4G but for CDMA it's LTE so eh..................................... nit picking

LTE is for GSM and CDMA

also: sogood.gif :lol :lol

 

[Frustrated_me]

:lol @ all this, gizmodo has some balls.

 

[Technosteve]

LOL :lol :lol i'm trying to sound smart, but on another note who wants to see if hogan's number is still activated? it's in the affidavit =D.

Reading this affidavit makes me feel old, I'm fucking older then these douche bags god damn it.

 

[Angry Grimace]

at this point, in the affidavit it's the 4G, also in the next generation of gsm is 4G but for CDMA it's LTE so eh..................................... nit picking

It literally can't be called 4G iPhone because that's false advertising. The 3G was the 2nd Gen. iPhone, if you recall.

iPods were referred to as such, i.e. 2G 4G, 5.5G as a shorthand, but it becomes confusing when you apply it to a telephone.

 

[Technosteve]

Not nitpicking; it's literally can't be called 4G iPhone because that's false advertising. The 3G was the 2nd Gen. iPhone.

It will be named iPhone 4GIZMODOEDITION

 

[Angry Grimace]

It will be named iPhone 4GIZMODOEDITION

I'd love a real 4G network running iPhone. All we need now are for 4G networks to exist.

 

[giga]

Three crimes

Smart roommate

Gizmodo :lol

Honesty is a virtue

 

[Technosteve]

I hope Apple Sue's Jizzmodo out of existence or extracts a fairly large chunk of flesh.

 

[numble]

I don't think Jason Chen is 150 lbs.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Three crimes

Smart roommate

Gizmodo :lol

Honesty is a virtue

Oh man :lol

Priceless.

 

[Lost Fragment]

Pretty damning.

 

[neojubei]

Hopefully this will mark the end of Gizmodo.

 

[SuperPac]

Pretty damning.

"But he's a journalist!" - Gawker Media defense

"But he's a good kid! His family helps sick/starving kids!" - Brian Hogan defense

Wonder how the rest of this will play out.

 

[mj1108]

Hopefully this will mark the end of Gizmodo.

We can only hope.

 

[Gary Whitta]

This is really going downhill fast for all the scumbags involved in this fiasco :lol

 

[mightynine]

Geez, that e-mail from Giz to Jobs. I can't believe someone actually sent that out.

 

[Mobius 1]

Here is one hoping Gizmodo comes down in flames.

 

[Gary Whitta]

Geez, that e-mail from Giz to Jobs. I can't believe someone actually sent that out.

I suspect that if Jobs did in fact release the hounds, it was right after he received this letter. Seems like he tried to play nice by asking for it back politely, then he gets that cunty response refusing to return Apple's own property to them unless they scratch Gizmodo's back somehow. Not smart, not professional and probably the beginning of the world of shit that Gizmodo now finds itself in...

 

[Slightly Live]

I'm not particularly fond of Apple and I've reserved making any sort of judgement on this story, there was obviously facts missing and it seems now that Apple is in the right to sue the shit out of the parties involved and pursue any proper legal formalities with everyone involved.

Can't believe I'm fully on Apple's side on this.

 

[Davidion]

Geez, that e-mail from Giz to Jobs. I can't believe someone actually sent that out.

I don't see that email anywhere within 100 miles of anything resembling professional.

Shit, at times it flat out read like an extortion letter. Gawker Media playing the "small business barely able to survive" card...:lol :lol :lol

 

[Gary Whitta]

I just read it again, holy shit. If anyone who worked for me had sent that letter to anyone, let alone one of the world's top CEOs, I would have fired them immediately. Just an absolute disgrace. It really does read like a long-winded ransom note - why not just cut letters out of newspapers - "WE HAZ YOUR PHONE GIVE US ACCESS IF YOU EVER WANT 2 C IT AGAIN LOLZ" - perhaps with a screw from the phone or something taped to the note so Apple would know they're serious.

 

[Freestyler]

That response from Lam to Jobs... seriously, that's some balls right there. Holding the phone hostage until they got that a letter of confirmation from Apple so they could do another story on it? That's some sleaze. "Give us a letter so we can do a story." Wow. Is that journalism?

I'm not sure about the letter but overall the whole thing is definitely journalism. Failing to report on the 'lost' iPhone would be the equivalent of a reporter learning about a plot to invade North Korea but not saying anything because she found the info illegally/unethically (although on a completely different scale).

I'm a major Apple fan and I'm 100% behind Gizmodo on this one. There was a story, they broke it. Good on them and I hope they continue to receive higher traffic because of this.

 

[mj1108]

I suspect that if Jobs did in fact release the hounds, it was right after he received this letter. Seems like he tried to play nice by asking for it back politely, then he gets that cunty response refusing to return Apple's own property to them unless they scratch Gizmodo's back somehow. Not smart, not professional and probably the beginning of the world of shit that Gizmodo now finds itself in...

No doubt it must have been after that letter. I bet it PISSED him off to no end and the world now gets to see what happens when you piss off Steve.

 

[Buttonbasher]

Just read the email. Jeez. That's slimy.

 

[numble]

Blame the roommate. I wonder if they still live together.

 

[mightynine]

Failing to report on the 'lost' iPhone would be the equivalent of a reporter learning about a plot to invade North Korea but not saying anything because she found the info illegally/unethically (although on a completely different scale).

Um, no. Not even close.

 

[Gary Whitta]

I'm not sure about the letter but overall the whole thing is definitely journalism. Failing to report on the 'lost' iPhone would be the equivalent of a reporter learning about a plot to invade North Korea but not saying anything because she found the info illegally/unethically (although on a completely different scale).

What? :lol No. Real news like an impending war would actually be in the public interest. As has already been established by various legal commentators, an advance leak of a new consumer product does not fall within the public interest.

 

[crazy monkey]

Go gizmodo

 

[Gary Whitta]

No doubt it must have been after that letter. I bet it PISSED him off to no end and the world now gets to see what happens when you piss off Steve.

thrillerpopcorn.gif

 

[Angry Grimace]

I'm not sure about the letter but overall the whole thing is definitely journalism. Failing to report on the 'lost' iPhone would be the equivalent of a reporter learning about a plot to invade North Korea but not saying anything because she found the info illegally/unethically (although on a completely different scale).

I'm a major Apple fan and I'm 100% behind Gizmodo on this one. There was a story, they broke it. Good on them and I hope they continue to receive higher traffic because of this.

Well, treason and theft aren't exactly the same thing.

 

[Freestyler]

What? :lol No. Real news like an impending war would actually be in the public interest. As has already been established by various legal commentators, an advance leak of a new consumer product does not fall within the public interest.

Maybe the American public's interest. A new iPhone is something that affects the whole world. 50% serious.

And I'm not talking about the legality issue anyway, I'm talking about the fact that someone said it's not real journalism. I think it's the epitome of journalism – finding a story and exposing it, against several factors (one being the law).

 

[usernamechange]

I'm not sure about the letter but overall the whole thing is definitely journalism. Failing to report on the 'lost' iPhone would be the equivalent of a reporter learning about a plot to invade North Korea but not saying anything because she found the info illegally/unethically (although on a completely different scale).

I'm a major Apple fan and I'm 100% behind Gizmodo on this one. There was a story, they broke it. Good on them and I hope they continue to receive higher traffic because of this.

what a terrible analogy to along with a terrible opinion

 

[Lost Fragment]

Failing to report on the 'lost' iPhone would be the equivalent of a reporter learning about a plot to invade North Korea but not saying anything because she found the info illegally/unethically (although on a completely different scale).

Wow. These things aren't even close to being the same. Not even if you disregard the scale.

Reporting on a plot to invade NK is a matter of public interest that would actually benefit people in important ways. Reporting on a stolen iPhone prototype is a matter of Gizmodo interest.

You don't report on things like this, especially things that could ruin a dude's career, unless it's of significant public interest. And no, informing people so they don't go out and buy a 3g when the 4g is getting ready to come out isn't even close to significant enough.

Anyway, sucks for Hogan. He stole his phone. Shouldn't have stolen his phone.

 

[mightynine]

And I'm not talking about the legality issue anyway

Well, we are.

And if it's any form of journalism, it's checkbook journalism - which isn't exactly getting your hands dirty and fighting several factors, mate.

 

[evil ways]

"But he's a journalist!" - Gawker Media defense

"But he's a good kid! His family helps sick/starving kids!" - Brian Hogan defense

"But Apple are an evil corporation, they have gone too far!!" - GAF Anti-Apple Force

Wonder how the rest of this will play out.

fixed

 

[Technosteve]

60 minutes never pays for sources, in the case of jizmodo are not journalists if they are then everyone that posts on gaf is a fucking journalist

 

[Cyan]

There's some interesting stuff in there, such as Brian Hogan's response to his friends who asked him not to sell the iPhone on account that it might ruin Gray Powell's career. "Sucks for him," Hogan retorted. "He lost his phone. Shouldn't have lost his phone.”

Aww, and now you're in legal trouble? Sucks for you. Shouldn't have stolen Powell's phone.

 

[Macam]

I foresee no less than 2 weeks of Gruber gloating and the topic being resurrected ad nauseam across the entirety of the TWIT network.

 

[LCfiner]

Maybe the American public's interest. A new iPhone is something that affects the whole world. 50% serious.

And I'm not talking about the legality issue anyway, I'm talking about the fact that someone said it's not real journalism. I think it's the epitome of journalism – finding a story and exposing it, against several factors (one being the law).

technically they didn’t “find” the story. it was offered to them. for a price.

A price, you will note, that other news sources refused to pay because they were aware of the legal issues in this particular instance (phone was considered stolen property)

 

[syllogism]

I foresee no less than 2 weeks of Gruber gloating and the topic being resurrected ad nauseam across the entirety of the TWIT network.

http://twitter.com/gruber/status/14001150448

 

[Grizzlyjin]

Wow, calling this a mess is a understatement. I wish I could feel bad for Hogan and his friend, but it sounds like they knowingly tried to destroy evidence and outsmart the police. At least their other roommate was smart and cooperated the entire time.

 

[Tobor]

Maybe the American public's interest. A new iPhone is something that affects the whole world. 50% serious.

And I'm not talking about the legality issue anyway, I'm talking about the fact that someone said it's not real journalism. I think it's the epitome of journalism – finding a story and exposing it, against several factors (one being the law).

All Gizmodo had to do was take some pictures and post their story. That would have been journalism. They could have even paid for access to take pictures. When they purchased and took possession of the phone and disassembled it, they left journalism behind and committed a felony.

That's why Engadget isn't in trouble here, even they posted pictures of the exact same phone.

 

[Freestyler]

…if it's any form of journalism, it's checkbook journalism - which isn't exactly getting your hands dirty and fighting several factors, mate.

At the end of the day, Gizmodo broke the biggest tech story of the year so far. I applaud them and wish them all the best and am happy to give them my pageviews.

And what the shit was Gray Powell doing leaving a priceless prototype in a bar, let alone taking it there in the first place? If someone like that worked for me they'd be axed the next day.

 

[brotkasten]

I don't see that email anywhere within 100 miles of anything resembling professional.

Shit, at times it flat out read like an extortion letter. Gawker Media playing the "small business barely able to survive" card...:lol :lol :lol

I already posted the numbers in this thread, but I'll gladly post them again.

In 2009, the corporation was estimated to be worth $300 million, with $60 million in advertising revenues and more than $30 million in operating profit.

 

[Technosteve]

http://twitter.com/gruber/status/14001150448

that man is like kryton he has a built in smug mode.

 

[Dupy]

This will make a fantastic book someday. I gotta say the phone does look like quite a nice update. Would have been a hell of a surprise at WWDC without the leak.

Now where are the Verizon model leaks?

 

[soco]

it's not like it matters if they sue gizmodo into the ground. this shit's here to stay and we can expect more of it.

yay for the internet!