Come On Tars
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I tried using their storefront as an all in one launcher. Of course certain games wouldn't pop up so it's useless.
I agree.The platform not forcing a launcher is objectively the superior platform.
I disagree. Launchers themselves are not the problem. If anything, they're there fo fix issues pc gaming had before them. It's hard to go back to individually managing your games and updates after you've used steam for a few years. The problem is that not all launchers work as well and then you are forced to launch launchers from other launchers, that's where it gets complicated and annoying.The platform not forcing a launcher is objectively the superior platform.
Imagine even remotely caring about where you buy or open a game from lol. It's mind boggling. PC gamers all say they want this fully open platform, but then the majority of them just want to be completely locked in to Steam.Imagine blaming people for the decline of any given service because they don't want to use an objectively inferior platform.
Imagine even remotely caring about where you buy or open a game from lol. It's mind boggling. PC gamers all say they want this fully open platform, but then the majority of them just want to be completely locked in to Steam.
As a PC gamer myself, I think those people are embarrassing. I press start and type the name of the game I want to play and click on it. Done. Don't care where I bought it from.
> "It's just a launcher bro. I don't care where my games are."Don't care where I bought it from.
First world problems hey. You know what I'd do then? Play a different game.> "It's just a launcher bro. I don't care where my games are."
> Rockstar's Social Club goes down for days due to the GTA remasters and people can't even play RDR2 or GTAV.
Congratulations, now your games are nowhere to be seen.
Long live the PC Master Race.
Yeah, fuck those people for having the gall of wanting to play games they paid money to get.First world problems hey. You know what I'd do then? Play a different game.
lol you guys love to go straight to calling people boot lickers don't you? Go abuse people on facebook and twitter, I'm sure you're good at that.Yeah, fuck those people for having the gall of wanting to play games they paid money to get.
God, this shoe leather is so tasty.
Or stop buying from shitty storefronts. Its not that hard.First world problems hey. You know what I'd do then? Play a different game.
And then we have no storefronts other than steam, which is not good, but that's what you want isn't it? I've never seen so many people actively asking for a monopoly lol.Or stop buying from shitty storefronts. Its not that hard.
Nah, i buy from GOG too, frequently even. But shitty marketplaces like Rockstar Launcher? Uplay? Windows store? Big nope.And then we have no storefronts other than steam, which is not good, but that's what you want isn't it? I've never seen so many people actively asking for a monopoly lol.
I never understood why they did this, no one can benefit except those who want to play without payingThats what happens with you offer games with full ownership.
People would distribute the games to other people.
Congratulations, you just managed to beat the previous worst take of the yearI never understood why they did this, no one can benefit except those who want to play without paying
Eh, I buy from all and much prefer doing so than trying to help a monopoly come about.Nah, i buy from GOG too, frequently even. But shitty marketplaces like Rockstar Launcher? Uplay? Windows store? Big nope.
But .. it’s just a launcher.. right? So why do you care?And then we have no storefronts other than steam, which is not good, but that's what you want isn't it? I've never seen so many people actively asking for a monopoly lol.
Steam? Well no it's not just a launcher if it's the only place you can buy games too.But .. it’s just a launcher.. right? So why do you care?
Well technically Steam isn't forcing any launcher. I think most people ignore it but it's still a fact that steam itself doesn't necessarily means DRM, Valve let the choice to the publisher to use DRMs or not.The platform not forcing a launcher is objectively the superior platform.
There were a few games that launched on Steam that I double dipped on gog, and others that I waited for a gog release.Except very few people would bother buying them (except at steep discounts) unless they somehow missed them the first time around, because they already own them on some other client. Selling "old games" only really works for titles that were initially launched before the digital platform age, or who somehow happened to receive a subpar porting on other platforms which was never updated (ex. VTMB).
That's not true at all, you just haven't thought of who benefits.I never understood why they did this, no one can benefit except those who want to play without paying
Download your games and keep them backed up.So, Hypothetically what happens if they pull the plug on GOG? What happens to people like me who have invested 100s in their games. I love their site, library and launcher and look there first and foremost before anywhere else.
I love the no hassle installers. The extras cluebooks and such for older games. Being able to launch 80s , 90s and 2000s classics is invaluable.
I really hope nothing happens to them, they provide a valuable service. I choose gog first for all older games, and for new stuff i use isthereanydeal.com to get the best prices, if I need to use Steam. I love the galaxy launcher as it integrates my steam, ubisoft, epic, origin, hell it even lists psn games and trophies etc with play stats. Frankly they need to double down on the launcher, add more options, chat interfaces and ways to bypass ubisoft, steam , epic launchers and just double click from there. Would be awesome if they could pull it off.
Did my part and bought a bunch of classics the other day. Game library 1000+ my backlog is never ending lol....
So, Hypothetically what happens if they pull the plug on GOG? What happens to people like me who have invested 100s in their games. I love their site, library and launcher and look there first and foremost before anywhere else.
I love the no hassle installers. The extras cluebooks and such for older games. Being able to launch 80s , 90s and 2000s classics is invaluable.
I really hope nothing happens to them, they provide a valuable service. I choose gog first for all older games, and for new stuff i use isthereanydeal.com to get the best prices, if I need to use Steam. I love the galaxy launcher as it integrates my steam, ubisoft, epic, origin, hell it even lists psn games and trophies etc with play stats. Frankly they need to double down on the launcher, add more options, chat interfaces and ways to bypass ubisoft, steam , epic launchers and just double click from there. Would be awesome if they could pull it off.
Did my part and bought a bunch of classics the other day. Game library 1000+ my backlog is never ending lol....
None.issues pc gaming had before them
This (and egs and so on) happened because you all accepted steam.> "It's just a launcher bro. I don't care where my games are."
> Rockstar's Social Club goes down for days due to the GTA remasters and people can't even play RDR2 or GTAV.
Congratulations, now your games are nowhere to be seen.
Long live the PC Master Race.
Tribalism.I never understood people's loyalty to steam, serious question, what's the reason for it?
I reckon part of the problem is that GOG matched Epic's cut. Contrary to popular opinion 30% is not unreasonable and 12% just isn't sustainable (and Epic knows it). As soon as they did that they had to kill off the Fair Price Package...which was not a popular move. It means there's less money floating around, which makes it harder for them to bankroll decent sales (sometimes you have to spend money to make money). There's also the recent online only debacle with Hitman...again, not a popular move (although they did pull it in response to the backlash).Maybe if GOG didnt have crazy 50-70% off deals for the same game every month they'd make some money. Many of the oldies arent even on Steam. So for gamers interested in classics, GOG doesn't have to bargain bin Heroes of M&M 3 to 75% off to $1.99 every month or two.
Amazingly, its not like digital storefronts even have to buy and store stacks of cases of inventory. It's all digital cuts. So their cost structure is running a website, servers, paying fees to allow credit cards, and all the staff to maintain it.
Guess the revenue is a lot smaller than I think it is on GOG.
I've never seen anyone who's "loyal" to Steam. Truth is most people just can't be bothered with other launchers.I never understood people's loyalty to steam, serious question, what's the reason for it? Is it the social features? mods? collectibles? I basically never open it except to buy games.
Dont see why 30% is an issue either. Devs just like to complain. And it seems Steam, MS and Sony doing 30% is doing fine upkeeping their stores.I reckon part of the problem is that GOG matched Epic's cut. Contrary to popular opinion 30% is not unreasonable and 12% just isn't sustainable (and Epic knows it). As soon as they did that they had to kill off the Fair Price Package...which was not a popular move. It means there's less money floating around, which makes it harder for them to bankroll decent sales (sometimes you have to spend money to make money). There's also the recent online only debacle with Hitman...again, not a popular move (although they did pull it in response to the backlash).
GOG is basically my go-to store for CRPGs and most indies and I'll keep buying them there. The worst thing that could happen is that they close the store or something, but since the games are DRM free you can just download everything and store it on a hard drive or something. So there's really no reason to be worried.So, Hypothetically what happens if they pull the plug on GOG? What happens to people like me who have invested 100s in their games. I love their site, library and launcher and look there first and foremost before anywhere else.
I love the no hassle installers. The extras cluebooks and such for older games. Being able to launch 80s , 90s and 2000s classics is invaluable.
I really hope nothing happens to them, they provide a valuable service. I choose gog first for all older games, and for new stuff i use isthereanydeal.com to get the best prices, if I need to use Steam. I love the galaxy launcher as it integrates my steam, ubisoft, epic, origin, hell it even lists psn games and trophies etc with play stats. Frankly they need to double down on the launcher, add more options, chat interfaces and ways to bypass ubisoft, steam , epic launchers and just double click from there. Would be awesome if they could pull it off.
Did my part and bought a bunch of classics the other day. Game library 1000+ my backlog is never ending lol....
I will get newer games on steam if the price is cheaper, and some games have mods that are only on Steam Workshop (can't think of any off hand, besides civ5). Also some cross save games like divinity original sin only works cross save with steam because the devs never updated the ability to do it on gog or anywhere else, so I bought that on steam.Thank you, after reading this thread I thought I was the only one who likes Galaxy. I shop exactly how you do, old games on GOG and everything else where its cheapest but I'll pick GOG if its close.
I never understood people's loyalty to steam, serious question, what's the reason for it? Is it the social features? mods? collectibles? I basically never open it except to buy games.
If 12% isn't sustainable what about $1 GamePass?I reckon part of the problem is that GOG matched Epic's cut. Contrary to popular opinion 30% is not unreasonable and 12% just isn't sustainable (and Epic knows it). As soon as they did that they had to kill off the Fair Price Package...which was not a popular move. It means there's less money floating around, which makes it harder for them to bankroll decent sales (sometimes you have to spend money to make money). There's also the recent online only debacle with Hitman...again, not a popular move (although they did pull it in response to the backlash).
Also not sustainable.If 12% isn't sustainable what about $1 GamePass?
Yes I agree on the curation issue. btw there is also another drm free store called zoom platform that has games gog doesn't and I believe its because they are more open than gog is when it comes to game releases.One of GOG's many problem is the curated nature of the store.
Publishing a game on Steam comes with zero friction and only costs 100$. On GOG there's no fee, but you need to apply and they are very likely to reject the application, if they don't think the game is a good fit for GOG. Which is all the time and rejection rates are so bad, devs don't even bother with the process anymore.
Even the chucklenuts that used to spam Steam forums for GOG versions figured this out and stopped.
As OP suggested, they're going to dig in even harder on this. Good luck.
This is something I don't quite understand and is probably the reason video games will always be seen as entertainment and not art. No other medium, when we look at films or especially books and paintings would have this. Maybe because it can't be changed on the whim, only with a new release, re-press, after it left the publishing house.According to your logic, the devs themselves don't have the balls either:
I frequently uses Steam "Follow" and "Activity" feature. It's a great way to keep up with patches and development or early access or other titles without relying on cancer Twitter or other social media platforms that's the shit right now. I don't like to check clickbaity news sites or simply search in a lot of different places. But when I click on the activity feed in Steam I can instantly see what my friends were up to and how games are evolving I've been following; I see patch notes and developer commentary.I never understood people's loyalty to steam, serious question, what's the reason for it? Is it the social features? mods? collectibles? I basically never open it except to buy games.
Movies and tv shows have been being retroactively censored for a while now.This is something I don't quite understand and is probably the reason video games will always be seen as entertainment and not art. No other medium, when we look at films or especially books and paintings would have this. Maybe because it can't be changed on the whim, only with a new release, re-press, after it left the publishing house.
In video games though, you see character descriptions changed because someone on Twitter was offended. You see hidden jokes removed completely because a certain community felt offended over something only 0,0001% would ever found. You see in-game, in-universe artwork changed because people felt offended over police/gay mockery. You see a Confederate flag changed, you see anti Xi Jinping poster changed. In German versions of (historical) games you wouldn't see any swastikas.
Developers have often so little respect for the art they created originally that it is sometimes hard to take them serious when they talk of their "vision" of a game. There's no """vision""". The only vision you have is to make as many people buy your game and make as much money as possible. And if it means to removed or alter something than they happily do that.
I frequently uses Steam "Follow" and "Activity" feature. It's a great way to keep up with patches and development or early access or other titles without relying on cancer Twitter or other social media platforms that's the shit right now. I don't like to check clickbaity news sites or simply search in a lot of different places. But when I click on the activity feed in Steam I can instantly see what my friends were up to and how games are evolving I've been following; I see patch notes and developer commentary.
Just gave it a try. The store functionality is really, really, really bad.another drm free store called zoom platform
Yes but they can't change the version I own as a file on my HDD or disc unlike games with forced auto-updates.Movies and tv shows have been being retroactively censored for a while now.
I didn't know they did this. Yeah, that would definitely hurt, considering Tencent's long term goal is to bleed Steam of exclusives and force them out of business, meaning they don't care how much they lose on EGS. Gog can't compete at 12%.I reckon part of the problem is that GOG matched Epic's cut. Contrary to popular opinion 30% is not unreasonable and 12% just isn't sustainable (and Epic knows it). As soon as they did that they had to kill off the Fair Price Package...which was not a popular move. It means there's less money floating around, which makes it harder for them to bankroll decent sales (sometimes you have to spend money to make money). There's also the recent online only debacle with Hitman...again, not a popular move (although they did pull it in response to the backlash).
I believe the price filter is a known issue to them and will be added, I will let them know about the scroll loading though. They have a discord where you can directly communicate with them.Just gave it a try. The store functionality is really, really, really bad.
First: you can't filter the games by price. I signed up for an account, then I was adding the free games to my newborn library and every game I clicked I had to go from store, to library and back to store, where the system reloads only part of the list and you have to scroll down and let load, scroll down and let load, and so on for every single game. Big giant nope.
They did? That's really stupid. A suicide.I reckon part of the problem is that GOG matched Epic's cut.
Didn't this change recently when Steam updated their service so that all games on their platform will require updates when applicable? Thus there is no longer "DRM free" games on Steam anymore?Well technically Steam isn't forcing any launcher. I think most people ignore it but it's still a fact that steam itself doesn't necessarily means DRM, Valve let the choice to the publisher to use DRMs or not.
There are games on steam that are completely DRM free, you can use steam to download them, update them etc, but you can also launch them outside of steam, offline, even after uninstalling steam etc, without any issue. They are a minority, because most publishers decide to use a drm, but it's definitely not Valve / Steam enforcing it.