Google really needs to sort out its retail operations

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I bought a Nexus 10 tablet a couple of months ago. When it arrived, the box had 2 seals on it which said "do not accept if seal is broken". Both seals were broken. The plastic sheets that cover the front and back of the tablet had clearly been removed and replaced, which made me think they'd sent out either a refurb or a tablet that another customer had returned.

I called Google about it and they said that they had to open the box in order to register my Google Play account on it, except I had not checked the box for them to do that when I placed the order and my account wasn't registered on the tablet. I was then told that some Nexus 10s had left the factory without a power supply in the box, so the box must have been opened so they could put one in. I said it was silly to do that without putting a note in to tell me, considering what's printed on the box seals. I also said that it didn't explain why the plastic sheets had been removed from the tablet. They offered me a replacement, which I took.

The second tablet had bad light bleed issues, so I returned that one too. The third one had light bleed issues, but also the seals were broken on it and there were signs of it being used. The fourth one also had light bleed issues and one of the speakers seemed noticeably quieter than the other one. I contacted Google via email and arranged to return it for a refund as enough was enough.

When you return a product to Google and they send you a replacement, they actually reserve a charge on your credit card, so I paid £320 for the first Nexus 10, but Google reserved another £320 when they sent me the replacement, so the balance on my credit card was £640. They then release this charge a couple of weeks later. This is annoying, because after the second return, the balance on my credit card was up to over £960 and I only have a £1,000 limit, so it meant I couldn't use it to buy things.

Anyway, here I am 28 days after returning the 4th tablet, with a 36 email conversation with Google support in my Gmail inbox, but I have no tablets and no refund. I contacted them last week to ask where my refund was and they said that it will be in my account shortly. I contacted them yesterday as I still hadn't been refunded and they emailed me earlier asking if I had sent the tablets back. FFS. I have just emailed them saying that I wouldn't be asking where my refund was if I hadn't returned the tablets and I've provided them with photos showing the return paperwork for each of the 4 tablets signed by the TNT courier.

When you deal with their customer support, you clearly get pre-canned responses a lot of the time. For instance, here's one of the emails I received when I contacted them: -

Hello {Name},

Thank you for contacting Google Play Support. I understand your frustration. Rest assured I will do what I can to help with this problem.

I've forwarded your case to a specialist to begin working to resolve your issue as soon as possible.

In the meantime, if you come across any other information that you'd like to pass along, please feel free to reply to this email. Your responses will automatically go to the specialist working on your case.

Thanks again for your patience and understanding.

It has been a pleasure helping you today. If you have any further questions please feel free to contact me.

Regards,

Thomas
And every time you do get a response from a human, they always say that they are working with a "specialist" that is handling your case, except you never get to speak to this so-called specialist 1 to 1. Also, the name at the bottom of the replies changes each time, so no one person takes ownership of your issues.

I like Google's products (faulty Nexus 10s aside) and services, but they really need to sort the retail side of things out. I have never had another company put a hold on funds on my credit card when sending me a replacement for faulty goods, nor have I ever had to wait this long for a refund.
 
If you have to return a tablet 4 times, I would say you should look into getting a different brand tablet. 4 defective tablets is ridiculous and representative of the build quality you should expect from them (which is to say not much).

With so many defective tablets, I would expect defective customer service as well.
 
FUCK Google.

I am in a similar situation. I bought a Nexus 7 in December, only to find out it had a dead battery. After two weeks of dealing with their horrendous customer service I was able to get an RMA to exchange the device. The only stipulation was that I would need to let them temporarily authorize my credit card for $300 in order to get a replacement.

I am still waiting for that authorization refund. On top of that, the replacement model I received has a banged up bezel.

I'll never buy anything else from this piece of shit company.
 
Would say that's more of Samsung's faulty hardware than a Google issue. Them having a retail operation won't change the fact that your screens bleed and etc.

I could see the frustration about getting it replaced multiple times though. Just buy an iPad, lol.
 
They really are horribly bad for a fuckin' multi-billion dollar company.

Samsung is to blame for the shitty quality on the Nexus 10, though.
 
I haven't been able to use my main account as a Google Wallet or whatever payment system, since they believe I'm some hacker for logging into Gmail from China. I send them ID verification documents that they ask for, and weeks later they say nothing can be done and tell me to create another Google account. This year the same thing happened when I tried to buy a Nexus--they asked me for ID verification and then say nothing can be done weeks after I send it to them.
 
Would say that's more of Samsung's faulty hardware than a Google issue.
It's Google's responsibility, not Samsung's.

Every time I phoned up TNT to arrange the collection, the person on the phone would say "it's not a Nexus tablet by any chance is it?" and when I said "yes" they would just laugh and say "yeah, we collect a lot of these". But Google is the retailer, so under UK law they are solely responsible and cannot pass the buck to Samsung.

iPad screens can suffer from bleed and retention issues too. There's plenty of people whining about issues like that on Apple's own forum. But I don't want an iOS device anyway.
 
Interesting. My friend got a Nexus 4 (Canada) and the RMA process was great. He was even able to hold onto his current device until the replacement came.
 
He was even able to hold onto his current device until the replacement came.
They do that here too, except they reserve a charge on your credit card for the cost of a new tablet each time they do it, which takes a couple of weeks to disappear. I got up to £960 on my credit card because of it, which meant I couldn't use the card for other purchases as my limit is £1,000.

Amazon UK do it right. They also send you a replacement before you've returned the faulty item, then they give you 30 days to return the faulty goods or they will charge you for the replacement.

It's having to chase up the refund that's pissing me off most though. I returned it 28 days ago and when I emailed them to ask where the refund was, they said it would be processed shortly, but now they are asking if I've returned the tablet. If I hadn't returned it, why would I be asking where my fucking refund is!? lol. They have 30 days under UK law to refund me, but if it's not done by Sunday I'll be doing a chargeback through my credit card company and complaining to Trading Standards.
 
The Nexus4 launch was something I never want to experience again. I won't be touching google play store for a very long time.
It's a pity really as I don't like ios and the over-priced ipad.
 
iPad screens can suffer from bleed and retention issues too. There's plenty of people whining about issues like that on Apple's own forum. But I don't want an iOS device anyway.

Difference is you can go to a physical store to return/exchange and then verify that your replacement works right there.

I'm not a huge fan of models without a B&M presence.
 
I bought a Nexus 10 tablet a couple of months ago. When it arrived, the box had 2 seals on it which said "do not accept if seal is broken". Both seals were broken. The plastic sheets that cover the front and back of the tablet had clearly been removed and replaced, which made me think they'd sent out either a refurb or a tablet that another customer had returned.

I called Google about it and they said that they had to open the box in order to register my Google Play account on it, except I had not checked the box for them to do that when I placed the order and my account wasn't registered on the tablet. I was then told that some Nexus 10s had left the factory without a power supply in the box, so the box must have been opened so they could put one in. I said it was silly to do that without putting a note in to tell me, considering what's printed on the box seals. I also said that it didn't explain why the plastic sheets had been removed from the tablet. They offered me a replacement, which I took.

The second tablet had bad light bleed issues, so I returned that one too. The third one had light bleed issues, but also the seals were broken on it and there were signs of it being used. The fourth one also had light bleed issues and one of the speakers seemed noticeably quieter than the other one. I contacted Google via email and arranged to return it for a refund as enough was enough.

When you return a product to Google and they send you a replacement, they actually reserve a charge on your credit card, so I paid £320 for the first Nexus 10, but Google reserved another £320 when they sent me the replacement, so the balance on my credit card was £640. They then release this charge a couple of weeks later. This is annoying, because after the second return, the balance on my credit card was up to over £960 and I only have a £1,000 limit, so it meant I couldn't use it to buy things.

Anyway, here I am 28 days after returning the 4th tablet, with a 36 email conversation with Google support in my Gmail inbox, but I have no tablets and no refund. I contacted them last week to ask where my refund was and they said that it will be in my account shortly. I contacted them yesterday as I still hadn't been refunded and they emailed me earlier asking if I had sent the tablets back. FFS. I have just emailed them saying that I wouldn't be asking where my refund was if I hadn't returned the tablets and I've provided them with photos showing the return paperwork for each of the 4 tablets signed by the TNT courier.

When you deal with their customer support, you clearly get pre-canned responses a lot of the time. For instance, here's one of the emails I received when I contacted them: -


And every time you do get a response from a human, they always say that they are working with a "specialist" that is handling your case, except you never get to speak to this so-called specialist 1 to 1. Also, the name at the bottom of the replies changes each time, so no one person takes ownership of your issues.

I like Google's products (faulty Nexus 10s aside) and services, but they really need to sort the retail side of things out. I have never had another company put a hold on funds on my credit card when sending me a replacement for faulty goods, nor have I ever had to wait this long for a refund.

And after all that shit, you still insisted time and time again on the same product. Why?

And Google doesn't know their heads from their asses in the hardware space, and don't seem to be improving. Their stuff is out of stock for months, and the support after purchase is absolutely horrible. After receiving my Nexus 4 7 weeks after ordering it (yes, 2 months) I opened the box and the back had a massive crack in it. The exchange process was horrible, and it took another 3 weeks to get a replacement. That lasted all of 4 days before inexplicably shutting off and not turning on anymore. After a shitload of back and forth where it would take days to get a response, I was told it might be 4 weeks for a replacement. At that point I said fuck it and decided to return it and demand a refund, and ended up going for an iPhone 5 instead. I have alot of Apple products and have always taken their incredible support for granted, and this was a wakeup call and made me realize how that should be an important part of a buying decision. I ended up dropping the phone in a lake a month later, and got it replaced with a new one instantly, no questions asked, even with no applecare.

Google needs to get their act together. If you barely have stock, and can't even provide timely support, don't put your product for sale.
 
I have a Nexus 7 and a Galaxy Nexus.

The whole Nexus 7 launch was a debacle. Took forever to receive my tablet even though I ordered within 10 mins of them going on sale. People were ordering two weeks later and getting theirs before me.

I really like their product and don't want to switch back to ios but unless they lift their game across a number of areas, I am done with them.
 
Difference is you can go to a physical store to return/exchange and then verify that your replacement works right there.

I'm not a huge fan of models without a B&M presence.
The nearest Apple store is 35 miles away from me.

I know what you're saying, but the UK has strong consumer laws that make shopping online less risky. For instance, the Distance Selling Regulations give you 7 days from receiving the goods to examine them and you can reject them without giving a reason, faulty goods or not, and return them for a full refund. If you buy from a B&M store, you have no statutory right to a refund if you get home and find you don't like the product as much as you thought you would.

Paradoxal_Utopia said:
And after all that shit, you still insisted time and time again on the same product. Why?
Because clearly they have sent some devices out that do not have light bleed issues and aside from that, I thought the tablet was awesome. I was willing to go through a few replacements to see if I could get a perfect one, but 4 was my limit. It cost me nothing to get them replaced, because under UK law Google have to pay the return charges for faulty goods.
 
The nearest Apple store is 35 miles away from me.

I know what you're saying, but the UK has strong consumer laws that make shopping online less risky. For instance, the Distance Selling Regulations give you 7 days from receiving the goods to examine them and you can reject them without giving a reason, faulty goods or not, and return them for a full refund. If you buy from a B&M store, you have no statutory right to a refund if you get home and find you don't like the product as much as you thought you would.

In the UK, you can return products bought at a B&M Apple Store within 14 days, without giving a reason:
http://www.apple.com/legal/sales-support/sales-policies/retail_uk.html
 
My experience with Google's retail service is one reason I currently have an Xperia instead of a Nexus. I cant believe a company with so much money has such a sub standard customer support service.
 
Geez OP, with the repeatedly instances of Google messing up there own products, looks like I will be going to Samsung or HTC to buy all of my items direct...
 
In the UK, you can return products bought at a B&M Apple Store within 14 days, without giving a reason:
http://www.apple.com/legal/sales-support/sales-policies/retail_uk.html
Ah, that's pretty cool then. There's not too many businesses that do that with electronics, particularly if you've activated and used them.

I sent Google another email earlier to say that if I wasn't refunded by Sunday, I would do a credit card chargeback and complain to Trading Standards for them not refunding me in the legal time period. I literally just got an email from them now apologising and saying that a refund has been issued, but it might take a few days to show in my account. Hopefully that's the end of it.
 
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