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GOP candidate says Blacks are geneticly inferior

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ShadowRed

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Hummmm...I wonder where are these ideas come from that Republicans don't like blacks.






Oklahoma Black Leaders Upset Over Candidate Remark

OKLAHOMA CITY, Okla. (Reuters) - A Republican Senate candidate from Oklahoma who has run into trouble over verbal gaffes was drawing fire again on Friday for saying black men have a "genetic predisposition" for a lower life expectancy than whites.

Dr. Tom Coburn, a Republican physician locked in a neck-and-neck struggle for a pivotal U.S. Senate seat, made the comment in a discussion of Social Security (news - web sites) privatization during a locally televised debate on Wednesday night.

Coburn said black males were statistically more likely to die before they could benefit from Social Security.

"What kind of plan is that, that we are going to take from those who have a genetic predisposition of less life expectancy, that we are going to steal from those and give it to somebody else?" Coburn asked on Wednesday.

Oklahoma is solidly Republican, but Coburn's largely self-inflicted political wounds have let his Democratic challenger, U.S. Rep. Brad Carson (news, bio, voting record), gain a narrow lead in surveys of likely voters.

Carson brushed aside Coburn's remark during the debate, but black politicians in Oklahoma blasted Coburn on Friday.

Angela Monson, a Democratic state representative from Oklahoma City, said the suggestion that blacks are genetically inferior was "bizarre."

"I think he was so bent on pushing the privatization of Social Security that he took this leap," she said. "A leap off the deep end."

John Hart, a Coburn campaign spokesman, released a statement saying the candidate merely was addressing an issue that Carson has ignored.

"Social Security, as it is structured today, discriminates against African-Americans because they have a lower life span. (Black leaders) should ask Brad Carson why he refuses to address that problem," Hart said.

Coburn has gotten into trouble for his statements before.

Among others, he has been criticized for saying doctors who perform abortions should get the death penalty.

And in 1997, when he was serving in the U.S. House of Representatives, he earned the wrath of his own Republican party by objecting to a broadcast of the Oscar-winning Holocaust film "Schindler's List," as an outrage to "decent-minded individuals" because it included violence, "vile language" and "irresponsible sexual activity."

Coburn's standing in the polls was also dented after a woman told a news conference last month that he had sterilized her without informing her in 1990 when he treated her for an ectopic pregnancy.
 

bishoptl

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I think they should be even more concerned about living conditions that lower life expectancy. It's easy to throw someone overboard and then blame their drowning on a genetic predisposition to swallowing seawater.
 

Cloudy

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I don't think he meant anything bad and statistics do show that black men die much earlier than whites -_-
 

Cloudy

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Oh, I agree with that too but I really don't see the outrage at this particular repub for that statement...
 

xsarien

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Cloudy said:
Oh, I agree with that too but I really don't see the outrage at this particular repub for that statement...

How about, "because it's grossly ignorant of the issues?"
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
I'm going to kill every white person in this thread before *I* die.

Take that bitches.
 

Cloudy

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xsarien said:
How about, "because it's grossly ignorant of the issues?"

Well, what he was referring to is how many black men are basically paying into SS all their working lives and getting nothing since they usually die before they can benefit from it. That's not ignorance, it's the truth...
 

scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
overreaction, pure and simple. i love PC.

Coburn said black males were statistically more likely to die before they could benefit from Social Security.
 

way more

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Just like science proved blacks were intellectually inferior, and Jews were a weaker race. Normally I would say I can't way for these bigoted baby boomers to pass on and that I have hope for this future generation. Then we hear people defending it.
 

KingGondo

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I was actually at this debate, and everybody in the room was like, "WHAT?"

I understand that there's a lower life expectancy, but I'm not sure anyone believes they're genetically predisposed to it. Lifestyle has more to do with how long you live than anything.

Coburn is a complete morally-righteous right-wing religious asshole. I feel somewhat guilty voting for the Democrat (Carson, who supported Bush in Iraq, voted to ban gay marriage, etc.), but Coburn has made it easy NOT to pick him.

However, it's sad to think that Coburn will likely ride Bush's coattails into office (where Dubya will receive upwards of %70 of the vote).

Man, fuck my state.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Zilch said:
This guy stated a fact. How do you get "he hates black people" out of that?

So it's a fact that my people are genetically predisposed towards dying sooner? Genetically really? It's written in our DNA that we don't live as long?

Think.
 

Goreomedy

Console Market Analyst
I too will do my part to keep Coburn out of office. Keeping fingers crossed.

And Cloudy, research this guy before you back him up.
 

Cloudy

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He nevver said "genetically", he said "statistically" and unfortunately, it's true...

And Cloudy, research this guy before you back him up.

He's probably a twat (like most repubs :D) but I don't see anything wrong with that statement..
 

Zilch

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DarienA said:
So it's a fact that my people are genetically predisposed towards dying sooner? Genetically really? It's written in our DNA that we don't live as long?

Think.

Honestly, I don't know. Do you? I'd tend to believe a doctor over some forumgoer.

Even if he is totally wrong, that doesn't mean he's being racist. It's interesting though that some people would be so quick to say that. Quite the kneejerk reaction, IMO.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Cloudy said:
He nevver said "genetically", he said "statistically" and unfortunately, it's true...

"What kind of plan is that, that we are going to take from those who have a genetic predisposition of less life expectancy, that we are going to steal from those and give it to somebody else?" Coburn asked on Wednesday.


That has quotes around it... therefore it's a quote... it says genetic predisposition inside the quotie thingies.

Zilch said:
Honestly, I don't know. Do you? I'd tend to believe a doctor over some forumgoer.

Even if he is totally wrong, that doesn't mean he's being racist. It's interesting though that some people would be so quick to say that. Quite the kneejerk reaction, IMO.

Uh hello? *I* didn't say it's racist... but it's definitely a stupid comment to make... and do I know? Well yes because they do life expectancy reports all the time.
 

Cloudy

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Ok, he said both but the statistical part is what I believe to be true and I guess I see what he was trying to say...
 

scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
mac said:
Just like science proved blacks were intellectually inferior, and Jews were a weaker race. Normally I would say I can't way for these bigoted baby boomers to pass on and that I have hope for this future generation. Then we hear people defending it.
so what does it mean when scientists have stated that certain illnesses affect sexes/races differently? whites are more suceptible to skin cancer than blacks, obvious but is that in itself a racist statement? women are more likely to acquire breast cancer than men, is that sexist?

if there are facts that prove that blacks die younger than whites, i don't see how his statement in itself is 'racist'. his interpretation of it leaves a lot to be desired (what was the sample rate, where was it taken? does this factor in differences in economics and living standards?), but he stated this in relation to it not being fair that blacks should pay into a social welfare program that, in his view, benefit longer-living whites more.

the uproar is nothing but politically correct bullshit, and it's tiring. there's a difference between using science to back up racist rhetoric and one that notes subtle differences in humans.
 

Deg

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Sounds like that flawed study where they say Black people were dumber than white people... it only just happened to be the case they used uneducated black people who only just arrived in the US and educated white people already living in the US. Of course its not flawed or racist and keeps getting mentioned ;)
 
lol...there's a Teresa Daly ad on GA. :) She is alright...US House district just south of mine, her opponent is a dumbass, one of 2 GOP seats in Minnesota that might go Democratic(it is currently 4-4 for the US House)...wonder if anyone on GA is in here district.

Anyways...Coburn, Keyes and Coors I think will all lose those open GOP seats. Hopefully that other moron Senator from Kentucky gets the boot too.

Everyone keep your fingers crossed for Granny D up in New Hampshire. She's way back in the polls but she is a hell of a lot brighter than most of these assholes in the senate.
 
so, unless im reading it wrong, he's basically saying black people (or, more spefically, black males) are born with some kind of "death wish"?
 

OmniGamer

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DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
The only genetic predispositions we have are:

1. Eating chicken
2. Terrorizing white folks(you are some easily scared bitches... well except for the one's in DC, even Dave Chapelle couldn't scare them anymore), and;
3. Having sickle cell anemia.
4. Eating watermelon.
























*Only one of the above is true.
 
DarienA said:
The only genetic predispositions we have are:

1. Eating chicken
2. Terrorizing white folks(you are some easily scared bitches... well except for the one's in DC, even Dave Chapelle couldn't scare them anymore), and;
3. Having sickle cell anemia.
4. Eating watermelon.
























*Only one of the above is true.

don't forget:
6)hooking up with the white womens.
 

Dilbert

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Based solely on the content of the article, I'm not comfortable labeling him a "racist," though he has "stupid" in droves. Just because a particular group has a lower life expectancy doesn't mean that the cause is solely -- or even partially -- genetic. I mean, if I don't lose some weight, then I know my health will be at risk. Does that mean that fat white guys are "genetically" doomed to lower life expectancy? No -- although I'm sure my genes have SOMETHING to do with it, a sedentary lifestyle with suboptimal nutrition is also a big contributor. Likewise, I'm sure that there are some significant lifestyle/environmental factors which lead to the statistic that black men don't live as long as some other groups.

The thing is, the whole "black male" part of the argument is a red herring. If you remove the racial part of it, you get the following:

Social Security unfairly discriminates against those who die at a younger age because they aren't alive long enough to enjoy the benefits.

Well, THAT'S just brilliant. Please get me one of those bumper stickers when they get printed.
 

Cimarron

Member
:p

What a dumb ass. My family must be a serious fluke then. I came from a long line of alcoholic curry chicken eating males. My Great-Grand dad died when he was 81, grand dad at 85 and my father is still going strong at 82.
 
Zilch said:
Even if he is totally wrong, that doesn't mean he's being racist.
Just ignorant on issues related to race.

Oh well, not that it matters. Oklahomans have a genetic predisposition to vote Republican.
 

MetatronM

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"What kind of plan is that, that we are going to take from those who have a genetic predisposition of less life expectancy, that we are going to steal from those and give it to somebody else?" Coburn asked on Wednesday.
He is clearly saying here that the reason why statistics show blacks live shorter lives is genetic. You can argue over whether or not that makes him a racist or if he is just stupid but that is what he said.



"genetic predisposition of less life expectancy" = "geneticly inferior" ?
What else would a genetic predisposition to die earlier mean? If you were comparing two otherwise identical products in a store, would you not agree that the item that is less durable and more likely to break earlier is the inferior product?
 
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