It's not like anyone bothered answering the questions being asked in the first place.
GOP Primary Debate #3 |CNBC| Burning Bush
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It's not like anyone bothered answering the questions being asked in the first place.
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"We demand that any and all future debates be moderated either by Fox News or Mark Levin."
Moderator: "Dr. Carson, my next question is for you. You've stated that you have a plan to fix everything that President Barack HUSSEIN Obama has ruined, and many people find this intriguing about you. So I have to ask, just how awesome IS your plan?"
Ben Carson: "So awesome."
*thunderous applause from the audience*
Moderator: "Thank you doctor."
"CNN reported that Carson said flatly that the candidates "need a change of format" for the upcoming debates, though it was not clear what that would entail. "
It feels like this is a running theme. He's never clear on how anything would entail. Health Care Reform, Tax Reform, Debate reform....gotta do something. Just dont ask me what it is because that would be a GOTCHA
Brian Griffin
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When you don't know shit about shit and you just plain lie in the face of facts, every question is a "gotcha" question. Hilarious.
He basically said that several times during the debate.
When asked what his alternative to Medicare would be, he proceeded to list off how much Medicare costs, how many people are on it, and then said the theme of his policies are that there are things the private market could maybe do.
I think he just read off his notes an FAQ about Medicare and then made some shit up because he certainly doesn't answer the questions.
Manmademan
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I will make fun of carson for a lot of things, but not this. It's as clear as day what he's referring to.
10 candidates on stage is ridiculous, especially when half of them are polling at 5% or less. Remove the bottom tier, shuffle them into a kiddy table, tell the 1%ers no one gives a shit about (pataki/graham/jindal) to keep their asses home.
The remaining 5 candidates or so will get more time to discuss relevant issues which makes everyone happy. The dem debate was so much better because of this its not even in the same discussion.
It's also part of why he's popular. People can fill in the blanks to suit themselves. Hell, we've also seen plenty of articles about supporters who actively handwave away some of the specific crazy statements he's made.
I agree 10 candidates is too much. But in a way I think that's helped Ben Carson the most. It leaves less time to dig in on his views and get some actual details on what he plans to do. It's in his best interest to stay quiet and low key.
JetBlackPanda
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Fair and balanced
Chie Satonaka
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It is not, because it's favorable to conservatives and right wing issues.
Despite having ratings that destroy both of their "competitors" and other national news, it's not mainstream.
BreezyLimbo
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Man the moderators were pretty bad
crisdecuba
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21 times in the first 3 debates, and seemingly increasing in each debate:
https://youtu.be/1S-uZKsDfoY
RustyNails
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These goofballs throw a shitfit when asked to detail their own tax plan, and they expect to sit in White House and answer much more critical questions? They blast the LIBURUL MEDIA over a question on how they would tackle debt ceiling, but they want to deal with Vladimir Putin, China and Iran when inside the White House?
These jokers aren't fit to run a kindergarten class group. Hell they're not even fit to take your dog out for a walk.
These jokers aren't fit to run a kindergarten class group. Hell they're not even fit to take your dog out for a walk.
Mengy
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When they say mainstream they really mean liberal. They are just regurgitating words that get the Republican base all lathered up even though what they are saying really doesn't mean anything.
Shit, they've already had Hugh Hewitt as a moderator.
Big Baybee
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I wish the other networks would just not host these debates. Let them stay on fox and blow themselves if that's what they want.
TheLaughingStock
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Fox News is great. You can make up your own facts which is pretty cool.
all self respect goes out the window in the higher pursuit of ratings.
Unknown Soldier
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Why? So he could have gotten crushed by Hillary instead of Obama? An ass-kicking is an ass-kicking, doesn't matter who dishes it out.
OuterLimits
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Kind of interesting since both Anderson Cooper and David Gergen last night said it is wrong to not consider Fox News part of the mainstream.
I suppose MSNBC is not mainstream since it is favorable to liberals and left wing issues?
Both networks for most of the day mainly tell the news and have on guests which often include political pundits of both parties.
At night both offer opinion shows. Fox has right wing shows, while MSNBC has left wing.
Jacksinthe
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I agree with this and I agree with their position on Anderson Cooper. I don't know anyone that didn't think he did a great job. I was readily impressed with him as a mod but CNBC just fucked it all up.
He's not talking about the number of people at stage at all, he literally says in the article that his content with the current debates are the gotcha questions. The fact that he's asking supporters for ideas on what a new format would look like kinda proves he has no idea what he even wants changed.
The thing is this implies that if you just present "the news" you are automatically presenting it with no opinions or context, ignoring the fact that what you choose and how you choose to present it blatantly makes it subjective. Compare:
"Fleeing man shot by police"
"Police shoot thief attempting to escape custody"
This a tired old false equivalency. Just because one station leans left and the other to the right does not mean they are equally biased and disingenuous.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Fox was the media wing of an organized astro-turfing effort to create the Tea Party. Without Fox News there would be no Tea Party, no Freedom Caucus, etc. It is not the same as MSNBC.
teruterubozu
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Ironically Rick Santelli of CNBC is considered the father of the Tea Party.
Veritigo_X
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Carson's business manager claimed Mannatech exploited him in this video and took the things he said out of context.
"The problem is Sam was trying to coach Dr. Carson in what to say and Dr. Carson is not comfortable with it. And so, Dr. Carson said what he said and he left the event. What we found out when we saw it posted on YouTube, they edited Dr. Carson's video and manipulated into making it seem like he was endorsing the product."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/29/politics/ben-carson-mannatech/index.html
I guess he just didn't care about it being out there until someone brought it up.
Joe Molotov
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Except then he said that it was a great product and he personally takes it during the debate, lol. I've never endorsed Ford, but check out this fantastic new 2016 F-150 w/ 3.5L V6 Eco-Boost I just bought, guys.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
To anyone who's been paying attention Carson is clearly capable of lying through his teeth by using half truths and flatout cold denial of facts to make himself out to be whatever he wants (or needs) at any time. This isn't the first time he's done this, it's just the most bold example of it, doing it right live during a debate like that. He knew he was lying but figured the pros outweighed the cons because he knows most of his base will blindly accept his words at that time rather than any fact checking done later on. It's all about the moment, not the after debate newscasts, and he just blatantly went for it without batting an eye. Trump does it too but in a more flamboyant way, Carson's method is more serene and low key but it's the exact same tactic: say nothing meaningful and deny anything bad no matter how caught you are.
Coincidentally, the two most frequent outright liars are also the poll leaders, lol.
DontBeThatGuy
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Where else are you gonna get the TRUTH about The War on Christianity and The War on Cops? NOWHERE ELSE!
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thepotatoman
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It switched from running on subscriptions to running on SarahPAC money.
BoboBrazil
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Jeb Bush is done. Major billionaire Republican donor announces support for Rubio http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/30/politics/marco-rubio-paul-singer-endorsement/index.html
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