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Gotham S2 |OT| Dawn of Altruism - Mondays 8/7c
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Here is the press release's description for Gotham's Mad Hatter:
Sounds like an interesting twist on the character.
Sounds like an interesting twist on the character.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Looks like the brother of Ezra Miller.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Freeze is the only one ruining it for me atm.(and Dent but they kept him away enough this season)
And Freeze's initial appearance was fine but the reappearances were the problem.
The same thing happened with Smallville.
The Blur had defeated everyone before he ever became Superman.
Knowing that we're never going to see Batman in Gotham continuity (at least I think that's the plan isn't it?) I just go with it.
The problem, in my mind, is this: if these villains are able to exist in Gotham for YEARS without a superhero dealing with them, what is the use of Batman?
As far as I know, none of the villain's inherent goals are to try to end the existence of Gotham. It's to harm the people of Gotham. The people of Gotham can be harmed without them being wiped out of the face of the earth. Even Joker rarely seems to want to actually destroy Gotham for good, as opposed to proving some grand point to Batman in particular or atleast just causing some random act of destruction.
Lots of things that are bad can continuously harm you and without killing you.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I think this interpretation is that Gotham itself is creating the villains. The corruption and crime is an ouroboros and feeds itself forever and always. Batman is like a dam that temporarily contains the flood. When you think about it, Batman has no end game. Crime will always exist, so he'll just fight it as long as he can. The fear of Batman might discourage lesser criminals from acting, at the very least. So I think his existence is still justified.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
You could look at it on the show as Gotham being what creates these things,
Batman is just the rare case of it going the opposite direction, however he then inspires a large group of people himself on that side.
Similar to how Gotham actually means something to Bruce, his parents and Gordon.
On the other hand all of Batman's sidekicks care more about the general heroics than redeeming Gotham itself.
Here's the big challenge for this show.
In both Seasons 1 and 2, Gordon and Bullock have been able to deal with most of the bad guys. But the show needs to eventually reach a point where crime becomes too much for Gordon and Bullock to handle by themselves. It needs to reach a point where there's so many criminals on the streets that Gordon and Bullock end up losing all hope.
As crazy as Season 2 was, we still haven't reached that point yet where things feel completely hopeless for Gotham City.
Comic Con Season 3 Teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XokEThBT5eU
Made a thread on it last night but no responses.Thought this was a good place for it.
No new footage until the last 30 seconds. I assume that is a Talon at the end. Some people have been saying Green Hornet but I think that is very unlikely.
Confirmed villains so far from footage and interviews:
Mad Hatter
Court of Owls
Talon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XokEThBT5eU
Made a thread on it last night but no responses.Thought this was a good place for it.
No new footage until the last 30 seconds. I assume that is a Talon at the end. Some people have been saying Green Hornet but I think that is very unlikely.
Confirmed villains so far from footage and interviews:
Mad Hatter
Court of Owls
Talon
Tweedledee and Tweedledum
Solomon Grundy
Poodlestrike
Banned
This isn't actually the case atm. The villains begin to appear largely simultaneously with Batman; not because of him, but stemming from the same root cause.
hmmmmm
Stallion Dan
Member
"The uploader has not made this video available in your country. "
Every other comic TV series trailer is fine...
Working link for those in the hated lands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDfFJIQafM8
Every other comic TV series trailer is fine...
Working link for those in the hated lands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDfFJIQafM8
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Just saw that season 3 trailer, which showed more old scenes than new scenes. Sadly we see Fish again as well and it seems pretty clear she will be a central character again. Why exactly? Are there more supporters of this character compared to the ones who are against it? After how Season 2 went downhill in the later episodes, I am not holding my breath for season 3 yet.
Pls no.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Fish is gr8, y'all haters can get mind controlled or whatever her thing is now.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Wait, I'm reconsidering my position in light of the fact that Veelk agrees with me.
...
Alright, Fish wins. But only just.
Promo don't say anything, it's only a few moments of early episodes. She can be main villain for 2 episodes and die.
Compare with promo of Season 2
Main villains will be around of Court of Owls probably. I don't see Fish with those people.
Compare with promo of Season 2
Main villains will be around of Court of Owls probably. I don't see Fish with those people.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
So with Superman able to show up completely on Supergirl it had me wondering about interesting ways Gotham could use Batman instead of just a time jump episode.
And something I landed on that i'd actually love to see is Bruce's subconscious.
You'd have a shadowy figure(Batman's silhouette) sitting in a dark cave talking to Bruce.
It would start out filmed in 3rd person and 1st person from Bruce's perspective, most of Batman's dialog would use "we" initially.
Slowly over the course of the show Bruce is visible/noticeable less and less in these subconscious scenes and Batman begins using "I"s and "me"s.
Finally these scenes can become 1st person from Batman's perspective.
And something I landed on that i'd actually love to see is Bruce's subconscious.
You'd have a shadowy figure(Batman's silhouette) sitting in a dark cave talking to Bruce.
It would start out filmed in 3rd person and 1st person from Bruce's perspective, most of Batman's dialog would use "we" initially.
Slowly over the course of the show Bruce is visible/noticeable less and less in these subconscious scenes and Batman begins using "I"s and "me"s.
Finally these scenes can become 1st person from Batman's perspective.
Nobody knows. I hope not. I have had my fill.
Not that we are aware of.
nortonff
Hi, I'm nortonff. I spend my life going into threads to say that I don't care about the topic of the thread. It's a really good use of my time.
So why a much older Poison Ivy?
A wizard did it
Did you read the last part of the description?
nortonff
Hi, I'm nortonff. I spend my life going into threads to say that I don't care about the topic of the thread. It's a really good use of my time.
Ohh I totally missed that description lol
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
That is kind of jarring.First look at the aged up Poison Ivy
I mean, shes really easy on the eyes, but still.
Yep, said the same thing in this thread when she was announced as the new Ivy. Kid mind in an adult body that's all about seducing men as her main ability.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
How do you grow mentally in what I presume is a couple hours or days? An adult is a result of acquired experiences. Unless she brain swaps with someone that's not even a thing.
It has been revealed that a proto Killer Croc will appear this season. And that Harley Quinn (or the forerunner to her) will appear, "but maybe not this season."
The first footage has also been released.
Oh another thing is, that the cult of Joker will "extend and deepen" in season 3 and they have more plans for that if there is to be a fourth season. We are also going to see a proto version of Solomon Grundy.
TVline writes about it here.
The first footage has also been released.
Oh another thing is, that the cult of Joker will "extend and deepen" in season 3 and they have more plans for that if there is to be a fourth season. We are also going to see a proto version of Solomon Grundy.
TVline writes about it here.
First look at the Hatter
That looks great!