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Gotta Keep Reeducating People on "Whos who" in The Rights And Ownership to SPIDER-MAN

sol_bad

sol_bad

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ManaByte said:
They just did a UK fan event for Venom 2, so spoilers of what the credit scene is are out there:

It's Eddie laying in a bed and Venom asks him if he wants to see one second of what his species went through. Eddie looks strained and something happens, then everything is different. Spider-Man from FFH is seen on the TV, Venom says "He looks tasty" and starts licking the screen and then someone walks in wanting to know what they're doing in their room.

The implication is they jumped universes, likely tied to NWH.
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I really hated the first Venom movie and so don't care about being spoiled for the sequels credit scene. If that's what happens, it sounds really really lazy.

Or are we to assume that Doc Oc, Green Goblin etc just change to another reality like switching TV channel?
 
bitbydeath

bitbydeath

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ManaByte said:
No we know the outcome, and it's entirely content related with Sony's Spider-Man universe movies (Venom 2, Morbius, Kraven The Hunter). It had nothing to do with game rights. Sony wanted to use Spider-Man in those movies so they were taking him back. Marvel is allowing him and the MCU characters (like Vulture) to show up in those movies and you'll see when those come out. The whole multiverse thing with No Way Home is how they're going to allow it. The credits scene in Venom 2 apparently hints at it.
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Sony already had full access to Vulture and Kraven, it was said in the leaked PDF.
 
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OneMoreDay

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I love how the Spider-Man Ownership Universe (SMOU) just continues to expand. Growing up I never thought I'd see such an ambitious multi-media corporate franchising sphere surrounding my favorite hero. Which global company do you guys think will join the fray next?
 
bitbydeath

bitbydeath

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ManaByte said:
Except for the Michael Keaton Vulture. Look at the post above. They can't use the Marvel-produced MCU designs without permission.
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Seem to be sidestepping a bit away from the gaming aspect which Square believes they have full control but wasn’t Michael Keaton only used in the Sony Spider-Man movies? I don’t recall him belonging anywhere else prior?
 
ManaByte

ManaByte

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bitbydeath said:
Seem to be sidestepping a bit away from the gaming aspect which Square believes they have full control but wasn’t Michael Keaton only used in the Sony Spider-Man movies? I don’t recall him belonging anywhere else prior?
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Marvel Studios produced Spider-Man: Homecoming, Spider-Man: Far From Home, and Spider-Man: No Way Home for Sony.
 
ManaByte

ManaByte

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bitbydeath said:
The links state Columbia Pictures as one of the producers. Marvel is listed too. It appears it was a joint effort.
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Columbia puts up the money for the movie, with Amy Pascal in charge of their money. Marvel Studios takes that money and makes the movies. They use their design departments, concept art teams, stunt teams, vfx, etc.
 
bitbydeath

bitbydeath

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ManaByte said:
Columbia puts up the money for the movie, with Amy Pascal in charge of their money. Marvel Studios takes that money and makes the movies. They use their design departments, concept art teams, stunt teams, vfx, etc.
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Is there anything stating that somewhere?
Like even here it states Disney and Sony co-produce?
In 2015 the studio struck a deal with Disney and Marvel Studios, to bring Peter Parker and his alter-ego into the MCU.
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The deal meant Disney would co-produce
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www.bbc.com

Spider-Man and Tom Holland: Sony 'disappointed' over Disney split

Sony Pictures has owned the film rights to the Marvel character since 1999.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
sol_bad

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en.wikipedia.org

Spider-Man in film - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

"Sony Pictures would continue to own, finance, distribute, and exercise final creative control over the Spider-Man films.[32]"

Final creative control meaning they can really veto something if they don't like it but they aren't in creative control of the actual production.

www.heyuguys.com

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige on Nick Fury's return and taking control of Spider-Man - HeyUGuys

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige talks to us about the future of Nick Fury and the deal with Sony which brought Spider-Man into Civil War.
www.heyuguys.com www.heyuguys.com

"“Well, I’ve known all those people for a very long time. Amy Pascal, Tom Rothman, who runs Sony now, I’ve known for years. So, it’s been great. They really are supportive in allowing us to make the creative decisions to make [Spider-Man: Homecoming], but they’ve been great partners. So far so good on that movie.”"
 
ManaByte

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sol_bad said:
Final creative control meaning they can really veto something if they don't like it but they aren't in creative control of the actual production.
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The only time that’s happened is that although Feige and the Russos found and wanted Holland, Pascal had to give final approval on his casting. And he was cast in like two days.
 
sol_bad

sol_bad

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ManaByte said:
The only time that’s happened is that although Feige and the Russos found and wanted Holland, Pascal had to give final approval on his casting. And he was cast in like two days.
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Yeah I remember hearing about that, happy they got Holland.
 
TGO

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
ManaByte said:
No, Marvel owns the character of Spider-Man. Sony has the film rights.

A good recent example was last week's episode of What If...? As it's a 30 min animated show, the Spider-Man rights in there fell under Disney. And due to that Sony didn't allow Tom Holland to voice the character.
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You keep saying Character rights but what you really mean is comic book rights and merchandising.
If they own the character rights it would include everything including film rights.
The actual use of the character, which clearly they don't.
They own this
Most-Expensive-Spider-Man-Comics-Featured.jpg

And this
spidey_4.jpg


While Sony own this
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If anything the rights to the "Character" is shared.
There is no clear cut ownership of the actual character
 
ManaByte

ManaByte

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TGO said:
You keep saying Character rights but what you really mean is comic book rights and merchandising.
If they own the character rights it would include everything including film rights.
The actual use of the character, which clearly they don't.
They own this
Most-Expensive-Spider-Man-Comics-Featured.jpg

And this
spidey_4.jpg


While Sony own this
07yk581g0wz21.jpg

If anything the rights to the "Character" is shared.
There is no clear cut ownership of the actual character
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Tell that to the US Trademark Office. Marvel Characters owns the trademark on Spider-Man.
 
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