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loffer

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No pirate group has still been able to crack GT4. I am really surprise, but I think this is really great, I am sure someone will crack it eventually, but in every day that pass people will get tired to wait, and buy a copy instead.

I think this is the first Ps2 or xbox game that taked this long to get a pirate realese?

Your thoughts?
 
loffer said:
No pirate group has still been able to crack GT4.
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paging JasonA, JasonA to the lobby please
I am really surprise,
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I am really surprise too
but I think this is really great,
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as do I
I am sure someone will crack it eventually,
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SHIT NO WAY SON
but in every day that pass people will get tired to wait, and buy a copy instead.
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crisis averted, I guess
I think this is the first Ps2 or xbox game that taked this long to get a pirate realese?
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What about Britney's Dance Beat?
Your thoughts?
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you owe me 5 minutes of my life back.
 
If this IS true (I honestly have no clue) I think it's a very interesting topic for discussion. What could they do to protect a game?
 
He got banned, but it's an intersting thread. Sony has an uncrackable game in their hands, and yet, every game that followed GT4 seem to ignore this copy protection they have created. I wonder why no other publisher, well, no even Sony, cares that much about protecting their games from piracy.
 
I don't know much about GT4's protection but as you may know, the game uses dual layers. The game has some kind of safeguard that checks for these double layers at game bootup and if this check doesn't pass, the game won't load.
 
Not only it is uncrackable, but the original retail version doesn't run from HDD either :/
 
The End said:
I seem to recall that the God of War demo was HDLoader-proof, so this may not be an isolated incident.
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Just cause it doesn't work with HDloader doesn't mean it isn't burnable either

What was interesting with the God of War demo is that it knows when the PS2 tray is ejected. I tried ejecting the disc in the main menu and it actually prompted me to reinsert the disc. I've never seen that happen in a PS2 game
 
Miburou said:
In Hong Kong you can buy dual-layer bootleg movies, so I'm sure you could find dual-layer PS2 games, too.
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It's not the matter of burning it on a dual layered disc that is the problem (dual layered DVDR's are already on the market), it's the protection check that's in the game's executable.
 
It has been cracked. Took me 1 minute to find it.
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So GT4 is cracked after all? Much ado about nothing...

What was interesting with the God of War demo is that it knows when the PS2 tray is ejected. I tried ejecting the disc in the main menu and it actually prompted me to reinsert the disc. I've never seen that happen in a PS2 game
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Several PS2 games detect this, and most of those that do (Like Jak series or MGS2) work fine with HDL.
 
apparently they burned teh dual layer in reverse it starts with outerlayer and ends in the inner layer. Atleast that is what i read. pretty smart i would say. so if you put you dvd in a computer all your pc would read would be 2-5 gb.
 
Marconelly said:
So GT4 is cracked after all? Much ado about nothing...


Several PS2 games detect this, and most of those that do (Like Jak series or MGS2) work fine with HDL.
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nope no matter how many torrents you see up not one of them contains a copy that works, or atleast thats how it supposedly was a while ago.
 
bishoptl said:
paging JasonA, JasonA to the lobby please
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You rang?

GT4 has been cracked AFAIK, though Sony did try new technicques on it. SecuROM (which is also a Sony-owned company) claims to have created a new uncrackable solution. Everything gets cracked eventually (including Gamecube which was recently cracked--by this I mean successful burning/copying of games to DVD-R media), BUT, the important part to remember is how long it was released without a crack. If a game make it out 2-4 weeks without a crack, that's pretty goddamn impressive. That can sway a good number of the more casual pirates out there.
 
Ok, just checked a PS2 forum...apparantly it is cracked. So long for this thread :lol
What's funny is that this news just came today
 
There are no working pirated versions out there, thankfully! This game is worth the money. They linked files from Layer 1 and layer 2 together so that if you were to break it into DVD5 disks they wouldn't work because the protection would kick in to check files on a second layer that's not on the disk thus making it usuless.

I don't want to get banned but thats just how the protection works.
 
actually.

In China pirates sell something called "HongKong Silvers", witch are basically pressed backups. gt4 has been pirated using these pressed discs. Apperantly you can buy a pressed copy of GT4 for like 4$ in China

However, 99.9% of pirates cant get these, and the game cant be burned to a dual layer dvd+R because current dvd burners cant burn in some track mode that the second layer is written in (witch the game checks for).

does that answer your questions?

You have to wonder why sony didnt provide other developers with this earlier tho. i'm under the impression that they happilly let piracy increase their userbase for a long while, then decided to cash in on it by releasing an (arguably) must-have title that cant be pirated by most of this userbase.


(/me bought the game btw)
 
Hajaz said:
You have to wonder why sony didnt provide other developers with this earlier tho. i'm under the impression that they happilly let piracy increase their userbase for a long while, then decided to cash in on it by releasing an (arguably) must-have title that cant be pirated by most of this userbase.
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iirc, all PD games are like this. I also wondered why sony did not make this method available to everyone.
 
it's cracked but you cannot copy it and play it yourself.
only factory pressed pirate silver game works on modchip enalbed consoles.
 
iirc, all PD games are like this. I also wondered why sony did not make this method available to everyone.
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GT3 can be easily installed to HDD, is one layer game, and definitely doesn't have this funky protection. I think they just came up with it, that's the reason noone else is using it yet.
 
Marconelly said:
GT3 can be easily installed to HDD, is one layer game, and definitely doesn't have this funky protection. I think they just came up with it, that's the reason noone else is using it yet.
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Hmm, or was it something to do with playing PAL on NTSC? I remeber something about GT games, more specifically the 'expansion packs' and demos.
 
<shrug> I live in Hong Kong and I've seen fake GT4s all over the place. Doesn't seem to be anything special about them either.
 
It was not a well written post, but one that is entirely pertinent and not against the TOS. I don't see why he got banned (unless the offense is in another thread).

Is the game really uncrackable? I see one NFO that has not been nuked on NForce, but it is the full DVD9 version. Does that it has been cracked, but only for people with Dual Layer burners?
 
FallenOne666 said:
It has been cracked. Took me 1 minute to find it.


Lamest Thread Ever.
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Was this guy not banned because he didn't explicitly state he downloaded it, just that he found it? :P

(Just wondering. Rules when it comes to piracy tend to be a little unclear on gaf. )
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It was not a well written post, but one that is entirely pertinent and not against the TOS. I don't see why he got banned (unless the offense is in another thread).
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TOS said:
bans are not necessarily precipitated in their entirety by a single violative event. The sum of actions leading up to a member’s removal is taken into account, so what may appear to be a minor breach of conduct may actually be the final occurrence in a long string of offenses.
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border said:
It was not a well written post, but one that is entirely pertinent and not against the TOS. I don't see why he got banned (unless the offense is in another thread).

Is the game really uncrackable? I see one NFO that has not been nuked on NForce, but it is the full DVD9 version. Does that it has been cracked, but only for people with Dual Layer burners?
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The game is apparently written on dvd9 using a combination of Opposite Track Path and Parallel Track Path. Usually it is one or the other which is why other DVD9 games could be copied (or shrunk and installed onto a hddloader).

There are tools to read both of these in conjunction, but not to write.

If you can read something, make an ISO, then it's ok to release to 'the scene'. Gamecube ISO's came out for ages before anyone could do anything with them.
 
Somebody posted over at the PS2IGN forum today that he tried using the HD Loader with GT4 and it completely locked his system up. Now it won't read anything at all.
 
bill0527 said:
Somebody posted over at the PS2IGN forum today that he tried using the HD Loader with GT4 and it completely locked his system up. Now it won't read anything at all.
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:lol
 
1. All the releases on the net don't work
2. You cannot burn this game with a conventional burner
3. Only pressed silvers work
4. ???
5. Profit.
 
The End said:
I seem to recall that the God of War demo was HDLoader-proof, so this may not be an isolated incident.
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It seems that Sony Computer Entertainment is the only publisher that really bothers to make their high profile games not work with HDLoader, the latest Rachet & Clank and Jack 3 don't work with HDLoader, and I was fearing the same would happen with God of War.

Marconelly said:
Several PS2 games detect this, and most of those that do (Like Jak series or MGS2) work fine with HDL.
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Jak 3 doesn't work with HDLoader out of the box as far as I know, the game ISO needs to be modified for it to work.
 
Naked Snake said:
It seems that Sony Computer Entertainment is the only publisher that really bothers to make their high profile games not work with HDLoader, the latest Rachet & Clank and Jack 3 don't work with HDLoader, and I was fearing the same would happen with God of War.
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Killzone? Sly 2? Getaway Black Monday?
 
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