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[SScorpio]

Forgot all about this game, I need to check if I bought it lol Never played it, but it seems like a good one.

I'm not sure about PlayStation, but Project Cars 3 is being pulled for sale from Steam on Aug 24th. The series is unfortunately dead as the dev were rolled into other EA projects.

 

[simpatico]

Forgot all about this game, I need to check if I bought it lol Never played it, but it seems like a good one.

It doesn't have the sheer amount of road cars as GT, but it's got any racecar you can probably think of. Same for tracks. My favorite handling model too. Just get that controller tuned!

 

[Hudo]

I don't think Polyphony will ever manage to top GT4.

 

[Windle Poons]

I loved GT2. Hopefully my save is still on my memory card (along with GT)

That Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak is chefs kiss territory.

 

[//DEVIL//]

To me it's the best GT game I have ever played. I have it both physical and digital ( because of the cheap price and me used to play it all the time when I had a PS5 ).

So worth the money. and even if you, for whatever reason,n liked GT3 more or any GT game, while this is a personal opinion of yours, it doesn't make GT7 a bad game at full price. let alone at this dirt-cheap price.

if you are a racing fan, then without a doubt u should buy it.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Better in terms of progression, no instant gratification for the tik tokkers. You had to work from the bottom and earn your way up the ladder, starting from eco boxes and ending up with fully fledged race cars. The sense of achievement when you got there was brilliant but even better was the journey. In GT7 you're in supercars in no time at all. It's not just nostalgia, the older GT games had much better single player modes.


There has been severe backlash on the cafe system on GTplanet and other fa sites so hopefully PD listens and returns to the classic GT mode for GT8 but I doubt it.

It was bloat because the old games had so many endurance races which are just a waste of time...100 laps, 12 hour races etc. The cafe menu while not perfect is not about giving you a beginner car but about the love of motorsport and learning its history. I literally dont know anyone from my childhood that ever "finished" a GT game because as I said, it was a bunch of bloat for no other reason than to fill up that disc space. The amount of tuning you can do to a car in GT7 is light years ahead of what the games did in the past. Also GT7 makes you collect and drive new cars, versus old games where you could of stuck with a beginner car and just keep dumping upgrades to it. I hope GT never goes back to that archaic system, 100s of pointless races.

 

[RickMasters]

Forgot all about this game, I need to check if I bought it lol Never played it, but it seems like a good one.

I still hop on it from time to time. Never bothered with the third one because the reviews were a lil too mixed for my liking. Still a cracking sim racer.



That said. I'd love to get back into GT at some point. It's the only sim-Cade left on the market. I just don't see myself buying PS for it. Would love to see GT come to PC/ steam at some point. Perhaps my trusty Xbox too in some form ( maybe when a PC port happens and I can side load steam on the next Xbox)

 

[bender]

I'm not a huge simulation racing fan, but I've always enjoyed the collection aspect of the GT series and just how much love and care you can feel are put into each iteration of the game. I recently finished collecting every vehicle in the game (and I have multiples of many cars because of colors or liveries). It has enough single player content to get its' hooks in me and the collection aspect has made this my most played G5 ever (currently at 1176 hours). I've never even played it online.

 

[RavageX]

GT7 is pretty much a GT Sport 2.0. But I think its really good.

The cafe sucks, I hated it. I've always liked how you would start with a basic used car, and tune that up to win a few cups until it becomes moot. Then you had the cash to buy something more powerful, and ultimately the top end cars. I think GT1 and 2 did this right.

I feel todays GT puts you into supercars way too fast. They are handed out left and right.

GT1 and GT2 were my favorites, maybe it was the time frame, but I agree with all your points. I liked the climb to get to the "good" stuff and I really liked the used car aspect.

GT7 is something else in VR with a wheel though, that is what I like about it....but it still isn't what I quite want from GT.

You remind me that is one of the things I hate about Forza Horizon, you can't do anything without getting a free car....where is the challenge?

 

[bender]

You remind me that is one of the things I hate about Forza Horizon, you can't do anything without getting a free car....where is the challenge?

As much as I like Horizon, my biggest issue with the series has always been that it rarely incentivizes you to switch vehicles. That's something I really appreciate about the GT7 weekly challenges that were added in post-release as they encourage you try to out vehicles and races you might not normally do.

 

[Synless]

The VR alone already makes it the best GT game ever.

 

[Inviusx]

Its the best GT game ever made, trouble is its competing against peoples nostalgia of the older games.

That being said, it needed a few modes that we likely won't see until GT8, like the return of proper endurance races and a "zero to hero" career mode.

 

[Unknown?]

The VR alone already makes it the best GT game ever.

Ya VR, if you have it, automatically rockets it to one of the best racers of all time.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

It blows older GT games away IMO especially if you get a steering wheel and VR. It's my favorite GT game and I've been with the franchise since the beginning (it's the main reason I bought the PS1 back in the day)

 

[Icymanipulator]

It's not the same as the old games but if you have PSVR2 it's an absolute game changer. One the best and most surreal VR experiences I've ever had.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

No, it doesn't. Graphically it looks great. Everything else is pretty much a let down, and the presentation is a prime example of devs sniffing their own farts.

I got it and a PSVR2 at the same time and it's amazing to break out every now and again to play in VR but the days when I would drop hundreds of hours into GT like I did 1-3, those days are long gone.

 

[Insanemaelstrom]

Gt 7 is great. The car models, track accuracy are right there at the top of its genre. It looks and feels premium.

There has been a lot of care put into the small details.

The gameplay, car handling and car feel is amazing. They actually utilize the haptic feedback and adaptive triggers to convey the otherwise missing feedback. You can sense the surface, the amount of grip you have, whether your wheels are spinning or locking, etc even using the controller.

The game feels sublime in vr as well. The best vr experience u have had honestly.

The replays are still fantastic and there is simply no other game that compares to it.

License test and missions still exist.

There are a few issues though.

The progression is kind of bad compared to previous games.

The AI is still bad( although custom races with sophy AI solves this).

The recent physics changes were a step backwards, although it is still fun

 

[TGO]

I'm not sure what some people are on about but GT7 is pretty much like the old GT games with the cups and all that shit with the exception of the Cafe that gives you missions to complete
The Cafe is more guidance then anything, telling you what to do instead of you just doing stuff by choice base on what can enter in.
That's basically what the campaign was before, you working your way through the cups and races you could enter after doing your licences and buy cars to enter ones you can't without.
The Cafe just tells you to do it.
By all means you can just compete at you own decisions like before.
The Cafe just directs you with objectives because gamers need ------> to show them the way these days, it still the same result.
Whether it's as good as the original 3 is another thing altogether though...

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Some of the slander in this thread, woo boy but considering where it's coming from no big surprise lol. Here is what I posted when I played it in 2022:

Well, I finally picked this up a few days ago and... wow! When the game first launched I was neck deep in Elden Ring and had zero interest in anything else until I'd had my fill. Plus I'd read about the launch issues so I figured wait a few months and a handful of patches later to jump in.

Playing this game is like coming home. Like many others I have fond memories of the the original game that started it all on PS1, hours spent perfecting those license tests, the attention to detail, all the little things missing from almost every other racer. The last GT I spent time with was GT5 on PS3, absolutely adored that game. Still remember one event clear as day, driving a Lamborghini at night through the countryside, fireworks filling the night sky, absolutely magical.

The point is it's been awhile and man oh man, despite the pedigree of GT and Yamauchi's adoration of all things Motorsports I was not prepared for the sheer perfection that is GT7. Put simply, this may be the greatest "racing" game ever made. I put "racing" in quotations because this is so much more than that. This is an absolute love letter to all things cars, a monument to the vehicles and companies that created them. The sheer amount of content is mind-boggling. The attention to detail at fetishistic levels. Meticulously researched and informative, mountains of data on cars and their manufacturers both big and small. You can't help but be inspired, you can't help but fall in love even if - like me - you've never really been a "car guy".

All this would mean nothing if it didn't play well and look the part but this is GT, a series that has always nailed the handling and has always been on the cutting-edge with it's visuals. With the PS5 things are elevated to a higher plane with magnificent DualSense implementation. This is a title that looks, sounds and *feels* like a dream. Photorealism? Finally achieved. Whether taking in the glorious replays or setting up the perfect shot in Scapes mode (complete with a staggering 2500 real world locations to choose from, it's almost too much to process), most of the time GT7 is indistinguishable from real life.

I could go on praising this game for hours on end. 87 metacritic? Severely underrated. This is one of those rare games that you feel *priveleged* to play, a game that makes you want to stand up and applaud the devs, literally. I'm overjoyed that this game exists and feel lucky that I get to experience it.

$24? Deal of the decade, buy without hesitation. You could easily spend hundreds of hours with this title and they are still releasing updates with FREE content. GT was, is and will always be the King, GT7 was just a reminder of that

 

[Three]

It was bloat because the old games had so many endurance races which are just a waste of time...100 laps, 12 hour races etc.

I remember the escudo pikes peak and elastic band on the controller trick for some of the races.

 

[TGO]

I remember the escudo pikes peak and elastic band on the controller trick for some of the races.

The escudo pikes had the problem of taking off and spinning out way too much without recovery, the Mitsubishi GTO fully kitted out could spinout and correct itself and still catch up (if it wasn't already lapping them)
Damn shame they gimped it in the later games...

 

[KenaiPhoenix]

No it is ass compared to 1-4... idk what people that tell otherwise smoked or if they even played the older one.

Should you get it? I think you should. Is the best GT? Not even close, probably one of the worst.

"Why?! I was told repeatedly it was awesome and the best one!!111oneone" Again, idk what they smoked:

- This GT was designed and implemented as a live service model: always on the wheel and new content coming up for you to follow. On paper sounds good, but Gran Turismo games used to be more "sand boxed", This is your money, get and used car and run on championships and events.
- Events are lame as fuck, a far cry from the open ones on previous titles.
- IA is ass, and you will realize they are just moving obstacles. They should have worked there instead of pushing the "GaaS" shit.
- The "Campaign"... if you can even call it, is just a series of races that looks awfully like a bad phased tutorial. I fucking kid you not that in Cafe N 20-something I was told "Oh, you can out an spoiler on your car! Try it!". Like bru... I did it on my first car.
- Always online. You car, your money, your designs, photos, videos, are on Polyphony servers... and they are not known for keeping their games alive for long. So everything you do on GT7 is just one switch off for losing it. Just remember GT Sport as an example: they shut down the servers and the liveries that where server based for whatever reason was lost. Here is even worst. I hope they pull a huge offline patch when they kill the servers some years after GT8 comes out, but I wouldnt hold my breath.

"But... but if it so ass why should I play it?"

Is a GT, it is accessible and fun regardless. It is enough real for you to feel the drive, but not that much so you will need to enter the "simulation dungeon" where DCS and iRacing players live (Anyone telling you GT models are 1:1 is just delusional). Daily races are cool (matchmaking) with accessibility liberties so you can play online as a noob and make mistakes without getting bullied by the server like other more simulation games (AC Competizione, iRacing, etc), and if you dont want to do that, there are also time attacks where you go against all players. And there is also the Paddock that is such a great concept. Liveries have some really cool designs, really talented people spent hours just designing them. And even if the AI are just moving obstacles, there are a lot of races and disciplines to do.

But here is the catch: it could have been way better, a proper "sandbox style" carrer, a improve the AI so it doesnt feel like moving bricks (maybe even have a full "weekend race" model with qualy and races on the cups), more open design events to test cars and leave the awful cafes as a side mode where you learn about cars (which is cool, but it is badly implemented). This and many other things like B-spec or endurance races (the real ones... not what they put here) are present on GT4 and way better.

So in short: GT7 is a good game, get it. But it is the worst GT because it was held back because "mah GaaS! We need service and microtransacctions and loggins and always online", they have fixed some things, but it is a core issue. The only thing that GT7 wins over are the online modes... and it is onyl because 1-4 doesnt have, but either way all that is just one switch off away from beign just an useless program.

 

[CrimsonTide]

No it is ass compared to 1-4... idk what people that tell otherwise smoked or if they even played the older one.

Should you get it? I think you should. Is the best GT? Not even close, probably one of the worst.

"Why?! I was told repeatedly it was awesome and the best one!!111oneone" Again, idk what they smoked:

- This GT was designed and implemented as a live service model: always on the wheel and new content coming up for you to follow. On paper sounds good, but Gran Turismo games used to be more "sand boxed", This is your money, get and used car and run on championships and events.
- Events are lame as fuck, a far cry from the open ones on previous titles.
- IA is ass, and you will realize they are just moving obstacles. They should have worked there instead of pushing the "GaaS" shit.
- The "Campaign"... if you can even call it, is just a series of races that looks awfully like a bad phased tutorial. I fucking kid you not that in Cafe N 20-something I was told "Oh, you can out an spoiler on your car! Try it!". Like bru... I did it on my first car.
- Always online. You car, your money, your designs, photos, videos, are on Polyphony servers... and they are not known for keeping their games alive for long. So everything you do on GT7 is just one switch off for losing it. Just remember GT Sport as an example: they shut down the servers and the liveries that where server based for whatever reason was lost. Here is even worst. I hope they pull a huge offline patch when they kill the servers some years after GT8 comes out, but I wouldnt hold my breath.

"But... but if it so ass why should I play it?"

Is a GT, it is accessible and fun regardless. It is enough real for you to feel the drive, but not that much so you will need to enter the "simulation dungeon" where DCS and iRacing players live (Anyone telling you GT models are 1:1 is just delusional). Daily races are cool (matchmaking) with accessibility liberties so you can play online as a noob and make mistakes without getting bullied by the server like other more simulation games (AC Competizione, iRacing, etc), and if you dont want to do that, there are also time attacks where you go against all players. And there is also the Paddock that is such a great concept. Liveries have some really cool designs, really talented people spent hours just designing them. And even if the AI are just moving obstacles, there are a lot of races and disciplines to do.

But here is the catch: it could have been way better, a proper "sandbox style" carrer, a improve the AI so it doesnt feel like moving bricks (maybe even have a full "weekend race" model with qualy and races on the cups), more open design events to test cars and leave the awful cafes as a side mode where you learn about cars (which is cool, but it is badly implemented). This and many other things like B-spec or endurance races (the real ones... not what they put here) are present on GT4 and way better.

So in short: GT7 is a good game, get it. But it is the worst GT because it was held back because "mah GaaS! We need service and microtransacctions and loggins and always online", they have fixed some things, but it is a core issue. The only thing that GT7 wins over are the online modes... and it is onyl because 1-4 doesnt have, but either way all that is just one switch off away from beign just an useless program.

Bought it now just bc it's cheap. But I'm not expecting much. Hopefully it'll be fun. The consensus here seems to say it will be. Maybe not for hardcore GT1-3 fans. But enough to justify its price

 

[fastest finger]

GT7 + PSVR2 is a god-tier experience.

If you own one, but not the other, I question your life choices.

 

[RCX]

I don't think Polyphony will ever manage to top GT4.

Running upscaled on PCSX2 it still looks amazing even to this day.

 

[Senua]

It was bloat because the old games had so many endurance races which are just a waste of time...100 laps, 12 hour races etc. The cafe menu while not perfect is not about giving you a beginner car but about the love of motorsport and learning its history. I literally dont know anyone from my childhood that ever "finished" a GT game because as I said, it was a bunch of bloat for no other reason than to fill up that disc space. The amount of tuning you can do to a car in GT7 is light years ahead of what the games did in the past. Also GT7 makes you collect and drive new cars, versus old games where you could of stuck with a beginner car and just keep dumping upgrades to it. I hope GT never goes back to that archaic system, 100s of pointless races.

I finished GT1-4 many times over. I was obsessed with them and still go back and beat them again. Bloat? Only to non racing enthusiasts I guess

 

[Tomeru]

I don't see how they can make something bettrr than perfect. We got the same deal with each game basically, but after so many of the same thing, oc it'll be stale.