GTA 6 Breakdown Trailer
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RJMacready73
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it's the billion and 1 little details throughout every scene that just blows my mind, from the authentic look and feel to the open world to all the incidental clutter that fills every nook and cranny, the abundance of wildlife, the random encounters, the background NPCs all doing realistic looking shit... how!? how do we go from the lifeless world of Cyberpunk to this!? are R* really that good, are they really able to pull off ingame in real time what most developers cant pull of in a prerendered cutscene.. i dunno man, i need to see actual 100% gameplay, this shit is too good, brings back memories of the Killzone2 video
DarkStream
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How? By spending an unholy amount of money, employing an insane amount of people and working for 10+ years on it.
It's astounding what they are doing, but it comes at a price.
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Kupfer
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It's time for this new benchmark, a new standard - after an entire generation has been conditioned to mediocrity and the established "greats" are resting on their "strengths" instead of wanting to be innovative. I guess that would require money, time and the leisure to do it.
Infested Goblin
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Money, pure man power, time > default spec capability Pikachu face
DarkStream
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That would be nice, but I think that won't happen in a broad sense and the expectation is unrealistic and bad for consumers and companies alike.
If every game takes this long and is this expensive to make, with it come higher game prices and very infrequent releases. GTA simply is an outlier and can afford such a luxury due to popularity and brand name alone.
Add to that companies trying to playing it safe because their investment upfront is gigantic, this will hurt creative game ideas.
That's why AA games need to make a big comeback: Less development time, less budget, more creativity and passion.
I have no doubt that's why Clair Obscure: Expedition 33 is such a hit.
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Portugeezer
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Not going happen with modern lazy devs, they were already moaning about Baldurs Gate 3 not being a realistic target.
GymWolf
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Talent
Infinite budget
Infinite manpower
Infinite time in the oven
People want games ready in 2-3 years but you need 10 years for something like gta6 or rdr2, that's why they are in a class on their own.
Yotei is gonna look like an indie game compared to this juggernaut.
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Dalbajobas
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Would you rather take 5 immaculate R* megaprojects every year or 300+ games we are seeing right now? I know which ones I'd rather play for 100s of ours.
thekillergreece
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People already forgot how detailed Cyberpunk2077 was, smh.
But I agree with your comment. Rockstar can afford certain things that most companies can't afford or simply won't do due to popularity differences and whatnot.
Even if Hangar 13 had same resources as Rockstar, it'd be less successful due to how different Mafia is and the brand is more known in Europe over USA.
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Tunned
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Yup, after what Rockstar pulled off with GTA V on PS360, this looks like the correct technological progression 2 consoles generations later. Game is going to blow us away.
archvile7
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Did you forget how CDPR basically "faked" their 2077 gameplay reveal trailer by stuffing in extra people and background effects only for them to be gone and/or scaled way back in the initial release.
I doubt actual gameplay of GTA6 will look and behave anywhere near like these trailers look.
Kupfer
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No question about it - I'm a big fan of that too, and I'm not saying that every game needs to be a GTA VI. But leading industry giants like Assassin's Creed, CoD, and Battlefield have been resting on what they've built for years. Sure, you can do that - but after Intergalactic and GTA VI, even the mainstream audience will start to notice how far behind they are. That doesn't mean I don't value AA games just as much. I just expect more from the leading IPs, and Rockstar, at least from a technical standpoint, seems to be delivering on that.
I believe that if you have a massive team but lack capable leadership to coordinate things properly, you can pour endless amounts of money into a project and it still won't turn out good.
What it really takes is an ambitious team, a healthy and effective leadership structure, a clear vision that doesn't bend to current trends, and genuine belief in the work being done.
I doubt that all Ubisoft devs are truly proud of their work or stand behind it 100%. And you can feel that.
DarkStream
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Agreed. I would welcome it if the big players, especially when it comes to big IP, would not release the same game with minor improvements over and over again, often in a technically broken state. And it's not like they don't have huge budgets and long development times as well. In part, I think this does, in fact, come down to Rockstar's way of work; love or hate their games, they usually aim for excellence, and it seems to be deeply ingrained in the company. At the same time, I think Rockstar is well aware of the cultural impact of GTA and is hyper-focused on delivering on expectations.
I do think the Ubisofts of the world actually do strive for excellence and certainly have big budgets, but their games lack soul and feel disjointed, an amalgamation of features. They simply don't operate on the same level. They are more willing to coast on the brand name of an Assassin's Creed. I firmly believe those companies need to find their footing again first by investing in more AA and new IP without clinging to the way they designed AAA.
Well, that depends on how much a person likes the IP of those megaprojects and the developers behind them. I, for my part, am not the biggest Rockstar fan, so in that case, I would not take 300+ or 5+ games, but 50+ games of higher quality. There is a middle ground. Quality is not necessarily tied to volume and dev time, but to scope (budget, game design, expectations) as well as leadership and company culture. The problem is we do get a lot of games at the moment that just lack vision and are bloated beyond belief, take too long to develop, and cost way too much money. That's why I'd prefer more AA games that actually play to their strengths, have a reasonable scope, and don't try to mimic all facets of AAA games. That's why Expedition 33 succeeded: It drips with passion, direction, purpose and leaves all the bloat behind. You can feel the devs were all in on this project and actually wanted to make it. You can feel the pride they take in their craft.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the mega projects, but there are only a few that justify the investment put into them from a quality point of view.
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Dalbajobas
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I guess it's just me then who would rather play only 5 new games each year [any combination of many other genres RPG, RTS, 4x, shooter, racing etc] with 1+ billion budgets each and 10+ year dev cycles that have best presentation, best gameplay and pushing tech in every area over 50 average games.
E33 is a very good example of a quality AA, but it could have been so much better in many areas.
especialy 5:00 this trailer 2 looks alot like gta 5 trailer 1 before the visual downgrades.it has similar aesthethic and lightning
Audiophile
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That's the crazy thing with this trailer, there's usually specific things I'm inclined to spot and think about, but because nearly everything is so cohesive and high quality, the thought of whether NPCs look the same hasn't even crossed my mind, this is the first time I'm finding myself just accepting the world put in front of me.
I can nit-pick and look for issues such as RT reflection noise/specular aliasing, DoF imprecision around hair and...well, that's just about it.
I didn't even think about facial animation for the first couple run throughs of the trailer, I can look at it specifically and see it may not be up there with the absolute peak in some very narrow, focused titles; but it's so fitting and just so for the world as a whole that I'm not actively questioning it. I'm actually getting a lot less uncanny valley here than even stuff like Hellblade II and I think the exceptional art style is what's making it so much more seamless. The eyes are really good too, there's no "deadness" here.
I'm just overwhelmed with detail and pretty much everything in the frame is so well balanced that I have to actively look for stuff; and am otherwise inclined just to go with it.
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viveks86
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Agreed! This has to be the best technical leap in fidelity within a generation. And to pull that off on base console hardware far exceeds my already unrealistic expectations.
Roman Empire
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Behold the power of money and gigantic dev time.