QisTopTier
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Guilty Gear Xrd -SIGN- |OT| - Cross Play on a Heavy Day
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It's amazing
Lostconfused
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Because it works against other beginner players.
Also stupid easy combos not working on Ky, so annoying. Just going to pick up a new character instead of learning new ones.
No date announcement AFAIK but since the last loc test just finished probably sooner rather than later. I wonder the average delay from the final loc test to proper release is for arksys stuff...
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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GGXRD GAF LAND up in NA-1 District #32.
if anyone wants to play for a bit.
I need to learn this now!
if anyone wants to play for a bit.
I need to learn this now!
NegativeCero
Banned
Totally noob question, but I just got a TE2 stick. It seems nice and all but I can't seem to figure out how to connect it to my PS4 despite the sub connected and it lighting up. PS button not doing anything. Am I missing something?
Is the PS3/PS4 switch set to PS4 mode (do before plugging it in)?
NegativeCero
Banned
Yep. Made sure. Just not responding despite lights turned on.
Does the stick has a lock switch on it? That disables the PS button if it's set on lock.
NegativeCero
Banned
Really weird. Lock is definitely not on and still nothing. Guess I'll try contacting Madcatz directly.
You can always ask in the Arcade Stick thread if you haven't. Just another place to get ideas.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=174352893
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Not in a real match yet. Haven't played for awhile. Messed around with it in training mode though
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Just tried it in training mode a while ago but haven't done it in a real match yet. I got destroyed by a Chipp last time I played so I'll probably pick it up sometime next week.
The more I play in lobbies the more I realize I don't know what I'm doing and just kinda do shit lol. How do you come up with basic gameplans against each character (or should I even be worried about that when I'm not comfortable with my own character)? I don't know how I'm supposed to approach learning the game or even what I'm supposed to be doing as Sol other than making my way in somehow 
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Edit: Kinda related, but when you guys watch videos, how do you tell what's going on and learn? Like I'll watch a lot of Mocchi videos to try and learn how to play Sol, but all I can tell is that he chooses to do the right thing at the right time more than other players do. This is what it feels like to be watching videos while not understanding matchups lol.
.Edit: Kinda related, but when you guys watch videos, how do you tell what's going on and learn? Like I'll watch a lot of Mocchi videos to try and learn how to play Sol, but all I can tell is that he chooses to do the right thing at the right time more than other players do. This is what it feels like to be watching videos while not understanding matchups lol.
I watch vids one match-up at a time. Like if I'm thinking "I need to learn the Faust vs. Axl match-up better" I'll use keeponrock.in to watch a bunch of videos only of that match up. I'll note points of interest, test things I notice in training mode, and then look around for an Axl playing in a online lobby to try the new stuff against.
The more I play in lobbies the more I realize I don't know what I'm doing and just kinda do shit lol. How do you come up with basic gameplans against each character (or should I even be worried about that when I'm not comfortable with my own character)? I don't know how I'm supposed to approach learning the game or even what I'm supposed to be doing as Sol other than making my way in somehow
Edit: Kinda related, but when you guys watch videos, how do you tell what's going on and learn? Like I'll watch a lot of Mocchi videos to try and learn how to play Sol, but all I can tell is that he chooses to do the right thing at the right time more than other players do. This is what it feels like to be watching videos while not understanding matchups lol.
Match videos help, but you really need to learn how to break down match videos. When I'm learning a new character, for example, I tend to look at certain things first. What does the player do round start? What move is he using as a poke on the ground or air? What distance do they like to be at? Why did the opponent get opened up by that specific move? What is the response on their wakeup, my wakeup? What buttons do I press when being pressured?
Of course you don't need to process all of this at once when looking at a match. I usually narrow it down to one thing when I'm looking to reference something. I'll wonder how does my character get in on a certain matchup, and I'll focus on looking to where neutral turns into pressure. Then rewind and look at the opponent's POV and see why he allowed the opponent to get in.
Another good example is to see how a character prolongs pressure after a specific move. I'll just repeats steps like these and try to figure out reasons to why they thought it was the best choice at the time. If you're able to break down why they're pressing buttons at a specific time and distance, analyzing videos get a bit easier over time.
I see. It sounds like I just need to be more focused on specific things when I watch match videos. Thanks!
Yep, it does. You can Upload your save data in the Options menu and then download it on any of the other copies associated with your PSN account. (Even works for transferring data between copies from different regions.)
Good to know. I should do that so I'm ready by the time the game arrives tomorrow.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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GGs Beats.
I have no idea what was causing that lag since we were playing fine for a long while before it started.
I have no idea what was causing that lag since we were playing fine for a long while before it started.
Good games. The lag appearing later in the set was unfortunate. Also, sorry I couldn't put up much of a fight lol. I have not played in months though. I think I'm gonna record the dummy to do stuff later to practice blocking in this. :x
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Ok, so how do you beat jump in insta-throws?
If they land behind you your character takes forever to turn around so you can't do anything even if you press a button, which seems to be the opposite case for other players so there must be a trick to cancel the turn around animation.
If they land from the front and throw any attacks I throw out goes through them completely and they just throw, and this is from me throwing out the attack and it just going through them before they even land.
I just fought someone who just kept on jumping beside me and throwing repeatedly and there wasn't anything I could do about it since all my attacks were going through instead of hitting.
If they land behind you your character takes forever to turn around so you can't do anything even if you press a button, which seems to be the opposite case for other players so there must be a trick to cancel the turn around animation.
If they land from the front and throw any attacks I throw out goes through them completely and they just throw, and this is from me throwing out the attack and it just going through them before they even land.
I just fought someone who just kept on jumping beside me and throwing repeatedly and there wasn't anything I could do about it since all my attacks were going through instead of hitting.
Lostconfused
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Hit them out of the air if they are not using faultless defense. I guess you can jump and air throw them if they are. You can jump to avoid the throw, use FD if they are doing the throw OS. I dunno if there is any landing recovery frames and if they can be thrown during those.
You can use an invulnerable reversal if it can't be thrown.
You can use an invulnerable reversal if it can't be thrown.
I don't think there's a turn around animation, unless you're dashing, but then that's just the braking recovery.
Throws are 1f so if you're trying to beat them using normals, you're probably getting thrown out of your startup. I'm pretty sure there's landing recovery in this game, so if you were able to time a throw perfectly you could throw them before they throw you (I think?).
What situation are you in which they just empty jump throw you?
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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My reaction speed is super slow. I can only react to it when they're almost on the ground. I guess the only sensible option here is to jump away then.
I think that kind of timing is way too precise for me to do. The person I was playing against would do random blockstring stuff then jump and land so that they were either on the opposite side of me or right in front of and immediately throw. I guess attacking at all is out of the question since I don't have pinpoint timing.
Next time I play I'll try jumping out.
Ah yeah I was trying to imagine a situation where you couldn't just hit them out of the air lol. Definitely agree on jumping out.
Bruno_Arrais85
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Toshin-Gekitotsu team exhibition archive is available
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhwrZtQK-oI#t=9m55s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhwrZtQK-oI#t=9m55s
This happened with my friend. I think the only way we got past it was for him to host. This first happened since one of the patches.
Hmm, I'll definitely try it out. Thanks!
https://youtu.be/GvswYA4XTBE
Has anyone seen this new Ogawa footage from Revelator? Zato has got to be one of the most powerful, we'll rounded characters ever. I can't think of a character in a major fighting game with more tools he's fucking ridiculous. And the character has so much freedom to play however you want it's beautiful.
Has anyone seen this new Ogawa footage from Revelator? Zato has got to be one of the most powerful, we'll rounded characters ever. I can't think of a character in a major fighting game with more tools he's fucking ridiculous. And the character has so much freedom to play however you want it's beautiful.
I'm thinking about getting back into Xrd, I tried Jack O today and she's pretty interesting and I think the best animated ASW character to boot. She has Inazuma Kick from Aim for the Top! 1&2 so go figure.
But yeah she's pretty cool and really unique considering her game is based around the bombs and the minions. I've invested a lot of my time into Tekken 7 but Revelator has interested me again. I did want to play Ramlethal before getting bored too. I have Xrd at home for practicing combos I guess, but it's the PS3 game.
Oh and the Sega cabs have both Sign and Revelator on them still.
But yeah she's pretty cool and really unique considering her game is based around the bombs and the minions. I've invested a lot of my time into Tekken 7 but Revelator has interested me again. I did want to play Ramlethal before getting bored too. I have Xrd at home for practicing combos I guess, but it's the PS3 game.
Oh and the Sega cabs have both Sign and Revelator on them still.
Pretty excited just to fight against her myself. It's going to feel like a side-scrolling platformer dealing with her game plan.
I approve of this. It'll let the arcade goers that want to come to NA where the old versions are being playing keep in practice, so we don't get another situation like last year's NEC where Dora was mixing up versions of Blazblue.
Karsticles
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He is also incredibly stylish and intense. Probably one of the best designed characters ever made. I wish I could play him above mediocrity.
Drinkin' the Kool-Aid.
I think PS4 kinda hurt arcade vanilla Sign (the PS4 runs better than Ringedge/wide and good net play in Japan, Full Burst did this to Gundam arcade before Maxi Boost came out), console did get the new characters first too.
But it looks like revelator is bringing people back in. I can use my Banapass for Xrd since Bamco uses Sega's service.
It's all anecdotal though, I primarily play at Playland F1R (a SBO and Arc Cup Game Center) and that place still has almost weekly Vampire Savior and HNK tourneys. Lol
As for JackO she's interesting in that she doesn't have any traditional inputs for specials. She's basically all normals.
Thanks for sharing that. Good to hear about the influx.
Hah, well, Vampire's legit, but I didn't think basketball combos would endure this long in any arcade.
I'm not knocking the games, Vampire Savior is my GOAT game along with vanilla 98. For HNK here everybody is broken, I've seen some really stupid Mamiyas, Hearts and Jagis. Dumber stuff than typical Toki BS.
I mentioned this to my friend but everybody is stupid broken in HNK, it's just that Toki has the easiest learning curve, followed by Rei. It's balanced in a weird busted way, but you already knew that I'm sure. Lol
Took a break from netplay for awhile and now that I'm getting back into it, I notice there are some players that I just get a "Connection with the opponent was lost" message when I try to play/spectate them. I figured it was just because I was trying to netplay for the first times on PS4, but I see that it happens on my PS3 as well. Any advice?
One of these days I'll bring myself up to speed on HNK. I missed out on it back in the day, and have honestly only ever seen a few videos here and there. Is there a wiki for it?
One of these days I'll bring myself up to speed on HNK. I missed out on it back in the day, and have honestly only ever seen a few videos here and there. Is there a wiki for it?
My old site did lol (RIP OG Guardcrush.NET) and probably Dustloop or at least a forum. I don't know how up to date it is though. It sucks because there's no good console port. So unless you have an AW or are playing on emulator it's a no go.
Anyway on topic for Ramlethal and Jack O, any Japanese players I should try to shadow? It's too early for Jack O, but definitely for Ramlethal and BnBs. I'm kinda motivated now, and I'll try to squeeze Revelator in with Tekken 7/old games/Pokemon.