Half Life Alyx on PSVR2 via PC. I never thought I’d see the day.

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Playstation VR 2 on PC: SteamVR SDK enables HDR

Developer iVRy reports on Twitter that Sony's PSVR 2 VR headset can be used on a PC.
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iVRY

"Day #121: And we're in!
- PSVR2 was blocking VR modes by saying it couldn't do DSC
- We modified an AMD Open Source Linux GPU driver to force DSC
- Now we know how to put the PSVR2 into VR mode, so we can design some hardware to do it on Windows
- "Can PSVR2 be used on PC?" - Yes"

it's still very early but progress is getting made.
 
So it's just using the PSVR headset on PC?

Hopefully turns out good, I still have a CV1 that I use from time to time.
 
Ok, I might actually bite soon then. The headset is great for its price but nothing os PS5 makes me want anythign to do with it.
 
cyberheater said:
Yeah. I wonder where you get those?
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They are using a Raspberry Pi Pico but said someone else would need to manufacture an adapter for consumers. If simple enough I wouldn't mind making my own but still have to get around needing an RTX 2000s GPU I think.
 
Never thought you would see the day? Really? Not like much use for the headset outside of trying to get it to work on PC at this point.
 
Kilau said:
They are using a Raspberry Pi Pico but said someone else would need to manufacture an adapter for consumers. If simple enough I wouldn't mind making my own but still have to get around needing an RTX 2000s GPU I think.
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I will investigate
 
SmokedMeat said:
Sony would be smart to officially support VR on PC. You've got a built in audience.
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Its really dumb of them. I own PSVR2, I'm happy with it and it has a great library that non-owners unfortunately trash for no reason. That being said, it's just dumb to not let people use it on PC. It's easy money and is good word of mouth.
 
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When PS4 emulation takes off with peripheral support, this on PC will have insane support.
Super high internal res PSVR1 games on the PSVR2 display - yes please.
 
VeronicaMaeKawa said:
PSVR2 had a very attractive price point for a headset that supports eye tracking, which Quest 3 will not have
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But who cares about eye tracking when PC can brute force anyway? They aren't that demanding games. I doubt the hack will support that too since it's software side.

I would take pancake lenses without a tiny small focus point over any of that. To begin with, the edge of the lenses will not be a blurry mess like fresnel
 
THE DUCK said:
Oled vs lcd for one, foveated rendering if they can somehow get that working.
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Headsets used to be OLED in the past, almost all companies went through that technology. It's not a novelty on PCVR.

Foveated rendering again is probably locked behind software, but also that I can't think of a single PCVR game that is so demanding that it would benefit it unless you were on old pascal cards. They brute force their way to native. It's to the point for me with a 3080 Ti where I have multiples of the native res without problems.
 
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Buggy Loop said:
But who cares about eye tracking when PC can brute force anyway? They aren't that demanding games. I doubt the hack will support that too since it's software side.

I would take pancake lenses without a tiny small focus point over any of that. To begin with, the edge of the lenses will not be a blurry mess like fresnel
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Eye tracking is not only about performance

And not everyone's PC can "brute force"
 
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poppabk said:
Technology wise (at least for games) yes.
Optics wise it has probably the best screen but not the best lenses by far.
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Ok so finally I get a reaction beyond emojis lol.

So you draw a distinction between the rest of the unit and the lenses. What's wrong with those? Seems odd they'd invest so much in every other aspect but that.
 
I don't think I'm quite following why people didn't just get a cheap Quest 2 years ago if they wanted to play Alyx this bad via a PC.
 
Buggy Loop said:
But who cares about eye tracking when PC can brute force anyway? They aren't that demanding games. I doubt the hack will support that too since it's software side.

I would take pancake lenses without a tiny small focus point over any of that. To begin with, the edge of the lenses will not be a blurry mess like fresnel
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Good luck playing games where blinking is a mechanic without eye tracking.

People like you are the problem with pc gaming. "Why optimize when you can brute force?" No wonder consoles get much more from the hardware.
 
Ar¢tos said:
Good luck playing games where blinking is a mechanic without eye tracking.

People like you are the problem with pc gaming. "Why optimize when you can brute force?" No wonder consoles get much more from the hardware.
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Blinking as a mechanic is going to be an edge case. And by brute force I think he means why do eye tracking when you can just use DLSS (or FSR.)
 
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Ar¢tos said:
Good luck playing games where blinking is a mechanic without eye tracking.

People like you are the problem with pc gaming. "Why optimize when you can brute force?" No wonder consoles get much more from the hardware.
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And what PCVR game uses that?

Are you stupid or something? Peoples aren't playing PSVR2 games on PC, they're just using the headset. I can't recall a game that uses that outside of maybe a few sidequest demos here and there. Oculus pro had this feature and it's almost 99% useless.

It'll come, but it's not a feature on PCVR even worth discussing about. PC have fixed foveated rendering for the longest time if performance is a concern.
 
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AV said:
I don't think I'm quite following why people didn't just get a cheap Quest 2 years ago if they wanted to play Alyx this bad via a PC.
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It only cost 500.00$, which is half the cost of the Quest pro, but still has better specs besides not being wireless or having fresnel lenses.
 
PixelatedBeast said:
It only cost 500.00$, which is half the cost of the Quest pro, but still has better specs besides not being wireless or having fresnel lenses.
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I guess I'm just not understanding the Venn diagram of people who:

- Have a PC capable of running Alyx well
- Are clearly interested in VR
- Are clearly interested in Alyx
- Somehow haven't already played it on a headset nearly half the price years ago

But obviously that's going to apply to a few people that only just got into VR, I guess.
 
Buggy Loop said:
And what PCVR game uses that?

Are you stupid or something? Peoples aren't playing PSVR2 games on PC, they're just using the headset. I can't recall a game that uses that outside of maybe a few sidequest demos here and there. Oculus pro had this feature and it's almost 99% useless.

It'll come, but it's not a feature on PCVR even worth discussing about.
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Some people would be surprised to hear how little eyetracking saves on actual performance compared to fixed foveated rendering (and they'll probably start argue against FFR now because they don't know about the natural physical properties of lenses). Some people don't even know there were PCVR headsets with eyetracking before PSVR2.

Analysis of the Quest Pro. FFR vs ETFR:

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(In case you're wondering; a more agressive foveation map = worse image quality when the "resolution filter" is lower than the lense properties)

So that means there's between 5% to 9% performance improvement when using eyetracked foveated rendering. (Disclaimer: this is for the Quest Pro, but I see no reason to not apply it to other headsets with fresnel lenses).

Now, keep in mind that Fresnel is somewhat outdated and with the incoming pancake lens headsets with a bigger sweet spot there could be bigger gains for ETFR when trying to keep the image quality intact over a bigger area of the lenses (which basically means that you need to turn to a less aggressive resolution filter).
 
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Buggy Loop said:
Meryl Streep Doubt GIF


Not sure why anyone on PCVR would pick this over the upcoming Quest 3
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Quest 3 doesnt have eye tracking so no foveated reendering and doesnt have a dedicated cable either, im not saying its shit , but not really the next gen Quest you would hope for.
imo, they should of focused on variable focus and eye tracking.
 
Neat if it will have the hardware features.

Haptics
Adaptive Triggers
HMD Rumble
Eye-tracking
Finger-Touch Detection

If not, then not so much.
 
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