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[Shake Appeal]

I was playing some assault games today in H2 and noticed something was missing. There needs to be an 'armed rate' bar or icon in the hud display during the game.

So say if the opposing team has half armed the bomb then the defensive team would take note and act more responsive. Or it could just appear on the attacking teams display.

oh wow. :lol

take a closer look at the bomb icon next time you're playing.

 

[JdFoX187]

oh wow. :lol

take a closer look at the bomb icon next time you're playing.

Actually, that's how much longer it has until it respawns. The only way of knowing how close it is to being armed is when somebody picks it up.

 

[sullytao]

This guy should be shot just for selecting that music alone. It's like a European radio nightmare.

if the music was an intended piss take at bungie then its not a bad choice. maybe they will be nice enough to play it back to him as security escorts him out of the building.

 

[JdFoX187]

if the music was an intended piss take at bungie then its not a bad choice. maybe they will be nice enough to play it back to him as security escorts him out of the building.

I think he's already been "taken care of." His Xbox.com gamertag is gone and his Bungie Halo 2 ranks have been swiped. Poor guy...

 

[Borys]

Alright, this thraed has become a Polish meet up.

In a sad kind of way. Seems all Poles can do is throw shit at each other and steal cars. I am embarassed for them.

He starts talking to it, thinking its my dad. Then it beeps, and all you hear is, "Antek? Allo? Allo? Allo?...... Antek?"

:lol

Antoni (full for Antek) is such a fine name.

 

[Kosma]

Yeah, literally. Now a little translation of their discussion:
"Hey borys get lost. Go collect bottles near the mall, so maybe you will be able to afford next-gen consoles" Then it's "Cause he's a fanboy" and "HAHAH sooo poor".

I'm embarassed, I don't add a lot of value to neogaf myself, but that's just pathetic.

What's pathetic is Borys trolling this thread when he has stated he has no interest in the 360 or Halo whatsoever. What is he doing here? Trolling.

I'm done with arguing with that guy.

Now back on topic: May 16th is going to be mayhem for us Beta Players.

 

[Dot50Cal]

What's pathetic is Borys trolling this thread when he has stated he has no interest in the 360 or Halo whatsoever. What is he doing here? Trolling.

Now back on topic: May 16th is going to be mayhem for all us Beta Players.

 

[Giddeon]

I think it looks pretty good, nice touches like the sniper rifle display actually showing the terrain and objects in front of you in real time is something I've always disliked when other games don't do it.

I wonder if having a warthog in different areas like grass would make different dirt on the tires?

Looks better than I was expecting when I saw the title of the thread, and in standard def even. Count me in as excited for May 16th.

 

[JdFoX187]

I think it looks pretty good, nice touches like the sniper rifle display actually showing the terrain and objects in front of you in real time...

Didn't the H2 sniper rifle do that as well?

 

[jjasper]

Didn't the H2 sniper rifle do that as well?

I mentioned it and from what I remember the Halo 2 one had just the 2 lines I haven't played the game in a while though so I might be wrong.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

Yea, Halo 2's isn't that detailed.

 

[Max@GC]

Nnnnnnnniceeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[wasting]

Didn't the H2 sniper rifle do that as well?

It does.

 

[Giddeon]

It does.

Just ran back through some Halo2 footage and yeah it does. Almost exact same design only for some reason the screen on the scope seems about 50% bigger in Halo3.

The reason it looked new is because it looks like it has thermal or night vision turned on. The reason I would learn towards thermal is only the vehicles seem to be showing up on the display.

 

[Okin]

It looks disappointing for a game I was not expecting to look disappointing. Bungie better be serious when they say they polish the graphics last, because a lot of that stuff on Zanzibar 2 looks low poly with low resolution lightmaps. Sure, it looks more refined than Halo 2, but there wasn't much there that was technically impressive. The best thing I saw was the way the spartans seemed to catch indirect light, but that was about it.

And some of you guys in this thread, especially GhaleonEB, need to cool it with attacks against people who don't come away from this video wired with excitement. Let's be realistic here. This is one of the most anticipated games of all time, but what we saw in that video amounted to "Hey, I guess that looks alright". You guys kill the discussion by labeling those with anything negative to say as trolls, fanboys, or juniors.

 

[JdFoX187]

It looks disappointing for a game I was not expecting to look disappointing. Bungie better be serious when they say they polish the graphics last, because a lot of that stuff on Zanzibar 2 looks low poly with low resolution lightmaps. Sure, it looks more refined than Halo 2, but there wasn't much there that was technically impressive. The best thing I saw was the way the spartans seemed to catch indirect light, but that was about it.

And some of you guys in this thread, especially GhaleonEB, need to cool it with attacks against people who don't come away from this video wired with excitement. Let's be realistic here. This is one of the most anticipated games of all time, but what we saw in that video amounted to "Hey, I guess that looks alright". You guys kill the discussion by labeling those with anything negative to say as trolls, fanboys, or juniors.

If the shoe fits...

Ghaleon nor any of the other posters, including myself, who have been defending Halo 3 have been attacking anybody. We are only trying to defend the game against these people who come in here and have no interest in the game, don't own a 360 and aren't planning on it and who just want to complain. The game looks great at the moment. But it'll get better. And for those who say it's not impressive or it's Halo 2 HD...go play Zanzibar. I was there last night, and this is leaps and bounds ahead of it.

 

[Aleman]

Someone needs to load up Halo 2 and recreate some screens from this video to shut the haters up. Anyone have a capture card?

 

[GhaleonEB]

If the shoe fits...

Ghaleon nor any of the other posters, including myself, who have been defending Halo 3 have been attacking anybody. We are only trying to defend the game against these people who come in here and have no interest in the game, don't own a 360 and aren't planning on it and who just want to complain. The game looks great at the moment. But it'll get better. And for those who say it's not impressive or it's Halo 2 HD...go play Zanzibar. I was there last night, and this is leaps and bounds ahead of it.

Just to add to this - I've never come in and declared what we saw in this video to be the Second Coming. As a Halo fan, I see a lot of features that are incredibly exciting, such as the deployables. The level design philosophy on display here is very encouraging. I do find the visuals, as best we can tell in this lousy quality video (from a build not meant for public consumption) to be impressive, in particular the lighting, scale and some of the small details such as the grass.

And as a Halo fan, I've grown weary of people coming into Halo threads and dropping the same tired stuff we see over and over. At least a dozen instances of the "bad art" card pulled out. Newsflash guys - it's Halo - the style isn't going to change. There are a LOT of games with a style I don't enjoy, but I don't drop into those threads and pull that out because 1) it's stupid and 2) it's not helpful to discussion. I saw at least 20 instances of "hey that looks like Halo 2", which is kind of like mistaking a banana for Mt. Everest. It pretty nakedly exposes you as being disingenuous.

I try not to make things personal here. Borys is a fun guy at times (such as over at the OT) but the relish he takes in trolling all things Microsoft borders on fanatical. Since I post a lot in Halo threads I see it a lot and it's worn thin. We get new information on Halo 3, and there is interesting discussion on it, but there's so much noise it's tough to fight through. Sometimes I'm more patient that others. This thread was drowned in lunacy pretty early on.

 

[Oni Jazar]

It looks disappointing for a game I was not expecting to look disappointing. Bungie better be serious when they say they polish the graphics last, because a lot of that stuff on Zanzibar 2 looks low poly with low resolution lightmaps. Sure, it looks more refined than Halo 2, but there wasn't much there that was technically impressive. The best thing I saw was the way the spartans seemed to catch indirect light, but that was about it.

And some of you guys in this thread, especially GhaleonEB, need to cool it with attacks against people who don't come away from this video wired with excitement. Let's be realistic here. This is one of the most anticipated games of all time, but what we saw in that video amounted to "Hey, I guess that looks alright". You guys kill the discussion by labeling those with anything negative to say as trolls, fanboys, or juniors.

I agree with Okin. I've got Crackdown and am excited to try the Halo 3 beta, but I'm not impressed with the video. I played the hell out of Halo 1 online (through tunnelling) and Halo 2 so I think I've got enough Halo cred to be genuinely dissapointed. I'm 100% sure Bungie will pull off a great game in the end but this video isn't hyping me as much as a next gen Halo would IMO.

 

[Danthrax]

they're playing in Zanzibar! And they have these weird Bubble Shield things! and you hold the Right Bumper to pick up guns! and the Sniper Rifle is still a bitch! and you can ride ATVs now! and there's something called a Spartan Laser that looks badass! and a new kind of grenade-thing called a Power Drainer, and a new pistolish thing called a Spiker! oh it's just too much. I love leaked videos.

 

[Okin]

If the shoe fits...

Ghaleon nor any of the other posters, including myself, who have been defending Halo 3 have been attacking anybody. We are only trying to defend the game against these people who come in here and have no interest in the game, don't own a 360 and aren't planning on it and who just want to complain. The game looks great at the moment. But it'll get better. And for those who say it's not impressive or it's Halo 2 HD...go play Zanzibar. I was there last night, and this is leaps and bounds ahead of it.

Your eagerness to label can easily into a witch hunt though. The game looks fun, but the graphics, while clean, are average-looking (yes, I know it's the Beta. I hope they will improve!). When someone criticizes the game, though, why not refute them by pointing out stuff that you were impressed with? Why not show graphical effects that were a new sight to you? Instead, many of you are just posting (and I exaggerate a little): "Stop looking at it with your testicles lol! You don't even own a 360!".

I've put in almost 4,000 matches into Halo 2 multiplayer, and yes, the Halo 2 HD comment has some legitimacy. The two games look very similar! It's true! Especially if compared to a small blurry video. No one is implying that this is just Halo 2 at 720p, but really, if you take the former, add some more polys, up the textures, and render out some better lightmaps, you essentially get this. I was hoping for more.

 

[MaX_PL]

It looks disappointing for a game I was not expecting to look disappointing. Bungie better be serious when they say they polish the graphics last, because a lot of that stuff on Zanzibar 2 looks low poly with low resolution lightmaps. Sure, it looks more refined than Halo 2, but there wasn't much there that was technically impressive. The best thing I saw was the way the spartans seemed to catch indirect light, but that was about it.

And some of you guys in this thread, especially GhaleonEB, need to cool it with attacks against people who don't come away from this video wired with excitement. Let's be realistic here. This is one of the most anticipated games of all time, but what we saw in that video amounted to "Hey, I guess that looks alright". You guys kill the discussion by labeling those with anything negative to say as trolls, fanboys, or juniors.

unnecessary.

Halo 3 is going to own the video game world in November. This is beta footage from an unfinished beta, considering the three beta maps we're getting are alot more polished than this. Halo 3 is going to be epic. Anyone jumping on trolls in this thread has every right to do so.

4000 matches? pssst. not enough. Ive played over 10,000 and know everything about the game. I know that Halo 2 has just about no texture work anywhere whereas this beta does. I know Halo 2 has weakass lighting, where as this beta shows incredible 'insert tech. word' lighting. Weapons seem a ton more balanced than duel wielding starts in Halo 2; and thats probably the biggest factor that will affect gameplay.

Seriously, go back and play Halo 2 and then watch this high res. video. This game is far beyond anything Halo 2 ever did.

 

[JB1981]

If the shoe fits...

Ghaleon nor any of the other posters, including myself, who have been defending Halo 3 have been attacking anybody. We are only trying to defend the game against these people who come in here and have no interest in the game, don't own a 360 and aren't planning on it and who just want to complain. The game looks great at the moment. But it'll get better. And for those who say it's not impressive or it's Halo 2 HD...go play Zanzibar. I was there last night, and this is leaps and bounds ahead of it.

I play Halo. I own an Xbox 360. I have every intention of playing the Halo 3 Beta (that's why I bought Crackdown) and buying the final game when it ships this fall. I find the footage on display pretty underwhelming. I also find the complaints leveled by a lot of people in this thread pretty damn spot-on. I guess the shoe fits.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Your eagerness to label people is turning into a witch hunt though. Quite frankly, the game doesn't look great. It looks fun, but the graphics, while clean, are average-looking. When someone criticizes the game, though, why not refute them by pointing out stuff that you were impressed with? Why not show graphical effects that were a new sight to you? Instead, you guys are just posting (and I exaggerate a little): "Stop looking at it with your testicles lol! You don't even own a 360!".

I've put in almost 4,000 matches into Halo 2 multiplayer, and yes, the Halo 2 HD comment has some legitimacy. The two games look very similar! It's true! Especially if compared to a small blurry video. No one is implying that this is just Halo 2 at 720p, but really, if you take the former, add some more polys, up the textures, and render out some better lightmaps, you essentially get this. I was hoping for more.

Actually, a lot of people were doing that. A few people early on suggested it was the same engine.

Obvously we disagree about the quality of what we're seeing. I don't get your perspective, but then you can't get mine. All's good. Hopefully we can hook up on the Beta and settle the debate with guns.

 

[DragoNZ DZ]

Someone needs to load up Halo 2 and recreate some screens from this video to shut the haters up. Anyone have a capture card?

Definitely video. Needs to have Halo 2 running at 480i over composite, with the video captured offscreen... perhaps at a resolution of 320x240 to replicate the effect of Halo 3 being played in SD rather than HD. Where possible, recreate the same movements taken in the trailer. Splice together footage for when the idiot got killed and spawned elsewhere. Pick up weapons when possible (i.e., sniper rifle on the way through the sea wall. Drive the hog into the water, etc. Should make an excellent comparison.

But regarding the video.... Irradiance volumes FTMFW. None of that constant-ambient BS. 'Nuff said.

 

[Okin]

Actually, a lot of people were doing that. A few people early on suggested it was the same engine.

Obvously we disagree about the quality of what we're seeing. I don't get your perspective, but then you can't get mine. All's good. Hopefully we can hook up on the Beta and settle the debate with guns.

Well yes, those people are idiots. I probably shouldn't have made that statement so absolute. You won't be seeing me in the Beta unfortunately, but I'll be laser canon-ing you later this fall.

 

[JdFoX187]

Your eagerness to label people is turning into a witch hunt though. Quite frankly, the game doesn't look great. It looks fun, but the graphics, while clean, are average-looking. When someone criticizes the game, though, why not refute them by pointing out stuff that you were impressed with? Why not show graphical effects that were a new sight to you? Instead, you guys are just posting (and I exaggerate a little): "Stop looking at it with your testicles lol! You don't even own a 360!".

I've put in almost 4,000 matches into Halo 2 multiplayer, and yes, the Halo 2 HD comment has some legitimacy. The two games look very similar! It's true! Especially if compared to a small blurry video. No one is implying that this is just Halo 2 at 720p, but really, if you take the former, add some more polys, up the textures, and render out some better lightmaps, you essentially get this. I was hoping for more.

I haven't turned anything into a witch hunt. I simply came into this thread and have been posting here since the first page. I didn't want to do anything other than discuss how the video look and its preview of the Beta. Instead, I've been defending the game against people who pointlessly troll and bash it simply because it's Halo.

You're saying Halo 3 looks average based off a SD video and saying it looks like Halo 2 HD. I played Halo 2 last night, in HD, and this shits all over it. The lighting is spectacular, for one thing. Look at the character models and how well they're detailed. Compare the water in Zanzibar to Last Resort. Last Resort's water is so much better and it actually effects the vehicles. Look at the vegetation and how the seawall looks now compared to Zanzibar. Look at the lighting inside the building. There are so many things that Last Resort does better than Zanzibar and you're ignoring it for whatever reason.

It may not be the graphical showcase that Gears of War is, but right now, on an unfinished map in a Beta stage, it looks just as good as Lost Planet did. That's saying something.

 

[MaX_PL]

all these people saying they "played Halo" seriously need to go back and look at just how Halo 2 actually looks.

i think too many people are under this perception that the beta looks like Halo 2 simply because theyre familiar with the map; and 'think' they look similar simply because the maps are similar.

 

[Aleman]

all these people saying they "played Halo" seriously need to go back and look at just how Halo 2 actually looks.

i think too many people are under this perception that the beta looks like Halo 2 simply because theyre familiar with the map; and 'think' they look similar simply because the maps are similar.

Which is exactly why someone needs to take some screens/vids of Halo 2 on Zanzibar.

 

[RattleHead_]

Power Drainer Icon

Dropped Power Drainer (Looks the same as the bubble shield in the Vidoc)

Bubble Shield Icon

Bubble Shield in action (Different then in the Vidoc)

 

[Kosma]

all these people saying they "played Halo" seriously need to go back and look at just how Halo 2 actually looks.

i think too many people are under this perception that the beta looks like Halo 2 simply because theyre familiar with the map; and 'think' they look similar simply because the maps are similar.

Exactly my fellow Pole.

When I first saw shots of CS: Source I was a bit unsure too. Then I actually played it and it truly was a great leap from 1.6

 

[NinSoX]

I watched the HD clip and I noticed the slightly higher contrast of bright light for a split second when you walk out of a darker area. That effect is so realistic

 

[jimbo]

Hot damn! I can't wait. I LOVE the size of the environments. Graphics and art direction are top notch too.

Man it gave me shivers watching that video. This game is my definition of FUN.

 

[Gowans]

I would be nice to see another Luke/Mark in depth review/walkthrough of the video on gamevideos like they did will all the other Halo3 footage

This happening guys? or does that fact its a leak change things?

 

[Vrolokus]

Crappy captures of SD footage make any game look underwhelming. Watch some multiplayer vids of Gears of War on youtube and it completely settles the question of whether you can say anything about the beta's visuals at this point.

 

[Rorschach]

I watched the HD clip and I noticed the slightly higher contrast of bright light for a split second when you walk out of a darker area. That effect is so realistic

Are you new to HDR? Welcome.

 

[DSN2K]

really don't like the big off bubble shield device, much preferred the grenade like thing in the commercial.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I would be nice to see another Luke/Mark in depth review/walkthrough of the video on gamevideos like they did will all the other Halo3 footage

This happening guys? or does that fact its a leak change things?

I think it's the kind of thing Luke would do, were he not just hired by Bungie. Just guessing.

 

[cluto]

I was hoping for more.

MORE SPARKS?!

Seriously though, what more do you want from the graphics other than higher poly models, higher res textures, cooler effects, and better shaders and lighting? The Halo art style isn't about tons of details everywhere like Gears of War. Halo's clean graphics, especially Halo 3's, make the game look very visually pleasing. I don't understand why some people still think the game looks like crap.

 

[JB1981]

MORE SPARKS?!

Seriously though, what more do you want from the graphics other than higher poly models, higher res textures, cooler effects, and better shaders and lighting? The Halo art style isn't about tons of details everywhere like Gears of War. Halo's clean graphics, especially Halo 3's, make the game look very visually pleasing. I don't understand why some people still think the game looks like crap.

 

[vspectra06]

Crap architecture designs/10.

 

[cluto]

Indeed.

 

[Gowans]

I think it's the kind of thing Luke would do, were he not just hired by Bungie. Just guessing.

You might be right, but its in the wild now & on gamevideos too, I really enjoy there behind the scenes looks, shame if it doesn't happen but I dont think it will be from Bungie telling a future employee not to do it.

 

[Stahsky]

Man, you guys sure know how to destroy a thread.


Can't we all just start talking about the game now?

Anyways.. anyone else feel that the mongoose is really floaty? I prefer it that way, too. It'll make driving it more of a challenge, hopefully.

 

[luoapp]

I would be nice to see another Luke/Mark in depth review/walkthrough of the video on gamevideos like they did will all the other Halo3 footage

This happening guys? or does that fact its a leak change things?

Just saw a video analysis on the baned site, nothing really beyond the discussion here, but at least they got the music right!

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Man, you guys sure know how to destroy a thread.


Can't we all just start talking about the game now?

Anyways.. anyone else feel that the mongoose is really floaty? I prefer it that way, too. It'll make driving it more of a challenge, hopefully.

I really like how close in the camera goes when you are on the mongoose. gives it much more a of a sense of speed and danger. very cool. i wonder if snow bound has a mongoose in it? would love to see it kicking up snow.

 

[Gowans]

Just saw a video analysis on the baned site, nothing really beyond the discussion here, but at least they got the music right!

nice i'll chek it, thx

 

[jimbo]

MORE SPARKS?!

Seriously though, what more do you want from the graphics other than higher poly models, higher res textures, cooler effects, and better shaders and lighting? The Halo art style isn't about tons of details everywhere like Gears of War. Halo's clean graphics, especially Halo 3's, make the game look very visually pleasing. I don't understand why some people still think the game looks like crap.

Dude, you need to get used to this. This is the biggest exclusive game coming out this year, it's for 360, and it's Halo. What you're seeing here is nothing. The hate will get a lot stronger the closer it gets to release, not to mention, if it gets excellent reviews and sells millions.

Just ignore the comments. And move on. It will make your time on GAF a lot more fun.

 

[Gleeky]

I really like how close in the camera goes when you are on the mongoose. gives it much more a of a sense of speed and danger. very cool. i wonder if snow bound has a mongoose in it? would love to see it kicking up snow.

Would be better a little further back..

 

[Stahsky]

I really like how close in the camera goes when you are on the mongoose. gives it much more a of a sense of speed and danger. very cool. i wonder if snow bound has a mongoose in it? would love to see it kicking up snow.

Yeah, that does make it pretty sweet. I wonder if the Spartan Laser is a one-shot to most vehicles. Probably not on a tank or wraith, though.