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Halo 5 sales in the UK [Excludes digital sales]
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Data caps actually aren't that bad in UK from my experience.
The issue is more that buying physical is often much, much cheaper, selling and buying second hand is still pretty big and average broadband speeds aren't too hot in many areas for downloading a big game (but fine for playing them).
Thus physical remains very appealing on console. As with other markets PC is different and skews numbers to look higher overall.
We also don't mind getting off the sofa on occasion in UK to change the disk! You can grab a drink since you're already up.
I didn't mean they should get rid of the classic Halos and ditch multiplayer, just make a good (story focused) RPG to refresh the franchise and explore that great lore and universe in a game with more detail.
Ensemble is making Halo Wars 2 which is great (liked the first one very much) but a Mass Effect style RPG would be even greater.
AHA-Lambda
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Only had a chance to quickly read through the thread now, so this is with more XB1's than 360's at a comparable timeframe?
That's really worrying, the drop from Halo 3 to 5 is fucking massive then :-s
Thought it was strange hadn't said anything bout the launch.
That's really worrying, the drop from Halo 3 to 5 is fucking massive then :-s
Thought it was strange hadn't said anything bout the launch.
Primethius
Banned
If you're intentionally joking/trolling, I hope you know that's frowned upon.
If you're serious... oh boy. I won't even touch that one.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Wait, digital sales went from this:
To this:
in one single thread?
That Halo Effect.
Market has changed a lot.
There are many alternatives, Call of Duty has become the biggest fps on consoles.
Xbox One is struggling on the market and that alone hampers sales.
Halo 4 was negatively received by the fans, Master Chief Collection was a disaster, Halo 5 didn't get a really strong critical reception so even on the internet a hype wave that could spur sales failed to materialize.
All these things added together are the reasons behind this relatively weak debut.
The game still has strong sales but it has lost the status of 'event' it previously had, it's just a big release.
There are many alternatives, Call of Duty has become the biggest fps on consoles.
Xbox One is struggling on the market and that alone hampers sales.
Halo 4 was negatively received by the fans, Master Chief Collection was a disaster, Halo 5 didn't get a really strong critical reception so even on the internet a hype wave that could spur sales failed to materialize.
All these things added together are the reasons behind this relatively weak debut.
The game still has strong sales but it has lost the status of 'event' it previously had, it's just a big release.
Neuromancer
Member
I'd forgotten what beasts Halo 3 and Halo Reach were.
I'm not trolling, initially I did think the digital sales split would be a lot higher, but I've never seen the previous split figures so I didn't know. I did think it would be around 50-60% for H5, but that's well off. I never thought it was at something ridiculous like 900% which my friend list chatter implied.
Now, I'm more so just discussing game sharing/foreign stores and how that impacts what the digital split would be.
Controversial posts helps a day where I haven't got much to do at work other than reply to a sea of green
What? This is completely opposite to everything I know and read about on GAF.
I only have personal experience with Denmark, Sweden and Norway and in no way are data caps common at all in these areas, I highly doubt it to be common in most of Europe tbh.
Edit:
Yup, pretty much my thoughts.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
Good luck you are gonna need it
Yup, Destiny is one alternative. Titanfall is another. I know Destiny has been mentioned a few times in this thread.
What would be interesting is seeing Destiny sales when and after Halo 5 comes out.
dead souls
Member
Wonder how it's selling in the States.
There hasn't been any PR from Microsoft has there? Which may be pretty telling.
Plus places like NewEgg already had it for $40 one day, and then $60 with a $20 gift card another day.
There hasn't been any PR from Microsoft has there? Which may be pretty telling.
Plus places like NewEgg already had it for $40 one day, and then $60 with a $20 gift card another day.
Dynasty8
Member
Is it far to say that the Xbox One isn't as successful as the 360? I remember Microsoft being in Sony's position last gen...they had the cheaper console and the better console for multi-platform games (comparing the 360 to the PS3).
I'm expecting Halo 5 to hit somewhere between 5-6 million copies in the duration of the next few years.
I'm expecting Halo 5 to hit somewhere between 5-6 million copies in the duration of the next few years.
Also fans hate 343 and want Bungie back.
Outrun
Member
The schadenfreude is strong in this thread.
The ones that should be worried about Halo sales are MS and 343i.....
.... And they have better numbers than you or I....
Between threads like these, comparing Killzone's SP to Halo 5's, and those wondering when Halo's story is supposed to get "good", it is an interesting time to be on GAF.
Due to a variety of factors outside the control of 343i, they are placed at a disadvantage compared to Halo 4's sales.
Like the Jackson 5 said, I would blame it on the boogie at the moment, as everything else is pure conjecture.
The ones that should be worried about Halo sales are MS and 343i.....
.... And they have better numbers than you or I....
Between threads like these, comparing Killzone's SP to Halo 5's, and those wondering when Halo's story is supposed to get "good", it is an interesting time to be on GAF.
Due to a variety of factors outside the control of 343i, they are placed at a disadvantage compared to Halo 4's sales.
Like the Jackson 5 said, I would blame it on the boogie at the moment, as everything else is pure conjecture.
I've been saying for the past year that Halo 5 would fall well short of it's most direct last gen parallel release (Halo 3), but even I didn't think it'd sell so little in comparison to the 360 title. Halo 4 must have burned a lot of fans, (which would fit with the infamously rapid abandonment of that game by it's online community).
Pretty undeniable that the series is in very real decline at this point I'd say.
Pretty undeniable that the series is in very real decline at this point I'd say.
Some have stated Halo 4 didn't get PR until after it's first week. So we'll say. IF they say anything it'll be interesting as to what they have to share.
Nah, man. Blame it on the rain.
Bits N Pieces
Member
Fans or Fanboys?
I'm not trolling, initially I did think the digital sales split would be a lot higher, but I've never seen the previous split figures so I didn't know. I did think it would be around 50-60% for H5, but that's well off. I never thought it was at something ridiculous like 900% which my friend list chatter implied.
Now, I'm more so just discussing game sharing/foreign stores and how that impacts what the digital split would be.
Controversial posts helps a day where I haven't got much to do at work other than reply to a sea of green
Your first post in this very long digital sales rambling of yours had this bit:
That you now say that you expected 50-60% digital share is quite some back-pedaling after you have been proven wrong.
Chobel
Member
XBO was higher than 1.5m in May. It should be close to 2 mil now.
Warm Machine
Member
I don't think Halo 4 was hated at all. A fractional subset of player maybe but by and large, no.
I think the CoD effect has taken over FPS and has the largest draw. The popularity of Destiny isn't helping either.
I think the CoD effect has taken over FPS and has the largest draw. The popularity of Destiny isn't helping either.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Yes, although depending on the timing of the next hardware release and assuming 343 are allowed 3 years to work on the next one again, it may well end up being cross-gen I suspect - or at the very least a simultaneous PC/Xbone launch.
30yearsofhurt
Member
Personally I think Halo, like God Of War, Far Cry and AssCreed, has had its day.
It used to be fresh and different but so many have outdone it. It's been outgunned by better ideas and better execution. You'd surely only get excited for it if you were a diehard fan.
But hey, that's just my BS opinion.
Let's wait for the NPD numbers and Leeh's 9 friends to set us straight.
It used to be fresh and different but so many have outdone it. It's been outgunned by better ideas and better execution. You'd surely only get excited for it if you were a diehard fan.
But hey, that's just my BS opinion.
Let's wait for the NPD numbers and Leeh's 9 friends to set us straight.
Exploratory
Banned
Not really. I bought Halo digital because it's fucking Halo lol. I'm never selling it so why get a physical copy.
Dude dev's are people too
Data caps aren't really a thing in the UK. They exist for some packages, but are very rare.
You're right about physical being much cheaper though. Physical games are always much cheaper than digital. I literally can not think of a single console game that was cheaper on XBL/PSN. It's usually a pretty big difference too (like £10+)
ShemhazaiX
Member
I got through the first three pages of this thread before realising that reason had flown out the window. I don't understand the mental gymnastics some people are pulling. The game didn't even sell badly.
I eagerly await the riots when Uncharted 4 outsells Halo 5 though.
I eagerly await the riots when Uncharted 4 outsells Halo 5 though.
KurtSloane
Banned
That's a lie, BT is the biggest provider and if you dont pay top dollar on fibre you get a 40gb data allowance a month.
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
Maybe in US not WW
Can you name a series that's like Halo?
If anything I felt like Halo was the one moving closer to games like COD and Battlefield, not the other way around.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Why would people riot when something is a given.
Nobody wants Bungie back. The same people who made Halo don't work there no more
ShemhazaiX
Member
I don't know. I won't be the one rioting. Don't ask me why crazy people do crazy things. But it'll happen.
Edit: there'll also be snarky heaps of salt filled "well obviously, but this means nothing because install bases", which is also stating the obvious but hundreds of people will saying it nonetheless.
Halo 3 was the height of the series imo. When COD become the blockbuster it did and the rise in interest in games like Battlefield I'm sure it took a part of the Halo player base.
In this day you have even more competition.
tattooed_dwarf
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I hope Quantum Break sells more than Halo 5. That would be something to look forward to.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
but let's not pretend people won't be rubbing it in to no end in every halo thread
lol yeah, a true politician.
tattooed_dwarf
Member
Real test for Halo is how well it maintains the user base. Halo 4 sold well but playerbase took nosedive after Cod and BF came out.
It probably did yeah, which explains why Halo moved closer to those a bit. I do wish it doubled down on what makes it great though, differentiation is what keeps series alive. I feel like Halo 5, as opposed to Halo 4, does more to differentiate itself from COD than it does to get closer to it, though it doesn't look like it at first glance. I expected it to be even more COD-like until I played the full game.
ShemhazaiX
Member
Didn't say they wouldn't. But its going to be fun to spectate either way.
JetSetRadio
Banned
No no, they're monsters who ruin your favourite franchises and bathe in fan tears.
Chobel
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ProvenDeadly
Member
This is what happens when you put out a mediocre product and then act like the fans are crazy for saying that you are not the correct devs for Halo.
GHG
Gold Member
Can you show me exactly where your 'theory' has been proved? All I'm seeing is an estimate.
Desperate stuff.
Primethius
Banned
Don't believe so. Population counters were removed after the whole Halo 4 population drop-off.