BlueScrote
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That's what happens whenever I play with people from HaloGAF. I always just assume that their skill level is significantly higher than mine.
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That's what happens whenever I play with people from HaloGAF. I always just assume that their skill level is significantly higher than mine.
EagleBurnn
Banned
I agree, though I think 343 changed it to 2 so there will be close matches, which there are now. Most games turn out to be one team choosing a point and defending it until the 5th point arrives. At least half of my Extraction games in Majestic are decided by the 5th extraction. A third extraction point is more dynamic but can lead to larger margin between team scores.
Yep same for me, when I'm playing alone I'm pretty decent but when playing with HaloGAF peeps I'm usually not so good
Agreed. Now it's nice to know I'm slightly better than Wahrer.*
*Assuming Wahrer is blackscreening half the game.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
The maps are great. Definitely needed. I hope they have more this size in the next one.
BlueScrote
Member
Apparently I haven't been getting any popups for achievements for the Majestic Achievements. I just checked my list and I already got the jetpack/PV/Close Call achievements but was never notified of it.
User 73706
Banned
Like I said last night, I have a bizarre niche on teams - I can get kills that nobody else can get. If a sniper's pinning everyone down? I'll find a way. If a Mantis just took out our Warthog? I'll find a way. If some guy just got an Incineration Cannon and Speed Boost? I'll find a fucking way.
However, the downside is that I usually won't get the kills everyone else can get, though. Generally I'm an assist machine.
Yeah, I've jumped on a bunch of games during this sale. Can't wait for MGS HD to go on sale too!
Damn those are some good choices. As someone who only has Dead Island, which game should I buy?
I'm thinking RDR, or Batman.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Jump off the ledge.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Be a bad kid
I bought that way back. So good.
I think I might get both of them. I should buy bioshock or something else just cause.
no
yes
Use the Storm Rifle.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Honestly though, in the smaller maps of the map pack its not nearly as effective. Ive been using the AR just to get that 30k xp challenge and i noticed that the dmr people dont even have time to react when you turn a corner with an AR and start emptying bullets into them. Its good on the big maps, on small maps, its a lot harder to use.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Would anyone be up for ODST Firefight soon? I need that 4 player heroic Vidmaster achievement and 4 map specific score achievement?
None of my friends even have ODST anymore
None of my friends even have ODST anymore
The Real Napsta
Member
DMR is the most fun weapon to use IMO. Not sure why people complain about DMR usage anymore. Must tryhards use the BR these days anyway.
User 73706
Banned
They should fix the DMR so that it's basically the Halo CE Pistol 2.0 and fix loadouts so that Infinity has primary rifle starts, while Pro has only DMR starts.
I swore off the DMR a long time ago. BR all the way.
i havent played around with explosives - do you really find it makes a significant difference in the amount of grenade or grenade related kills you get?
User 73706
Banned
My Spartan Ops loadout can also kill a Mantis one-on-one.
DMR
Plasma Pistol
Jetpack
Plasma Grenades
Grenadier
Explosives
1. EMP Mantis to remove shields
2. Stick it three times
3. Halo
DMR
Plasma Pistol
Jetpack
Plasma Grenades
Grenadier
Explosives
1. EMP Mantis to remove shields
2. Stick it three times
3. Halo
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Isnt explosives always on in Throwdown?
Poker Face
Member
People complain about the DMR because it has ridiculous aim assist, a 3x scope, and is incredibly easy to five shot across a map with, especially when players move as slow as they do in Halo 4.
It may just be a placebo effect, but it feels like I pop shields or get a kill much more often when I'm using it.
And the fact that as long as the reticle is on the enemy, it's a guaranteed hit. The BR could miss 1/3 of the burst. Same goes for the LR. The Carbine's aim assist should be swapped with the DMR's.
#cinematicexperience
I do the same sometimes...
But that's really awesome. I kinda expected the arms to be there, but I'm not surprised that they aren't.
Now do the Longsword next!
The Henery
Member
Late back to this but I mean the general responsiveness from analog stick to reticle, lack of aim acceleration and a smoothness that I find lacking in 4.
There's a lot in this and one can chart certain milestones in the flip flopping of the multiplayer's base direction from the clumsy info dumps we got in the lead up to release. Take the Game Informer reveal; it was the first mooting of the Global Ordnance concept in which weapons would spawn at preset destinations in a random fashion. It is presented as a new approach to the concept of map movement and control....
Then, about 3 months or so later, without fanfare, notification (or even acknowledgement from 343 for some time) we start hearing reports from selected community members (I believe it was Wu that posted about it here) who played the game at a closed off event that they were presented with an option, on the in-game UI, to choose from a selection of weapons, kill streak style. I distinctly remember the confusion in his post; I got the impression that whoever was representing 343 at the event wasn't particularly forthcoming with information about this extremely significant, watershed, paradigm shifting moment within the Halo multiplayer experience. This very public unveiling of the Global Ordnance system in a nationally distributed magazine points to a reasonable probability that it was something worked on internally by 343 for a considered amount of time. The clandestine, almost 'I'll just leave this here' fashion in which personal ordnance was dropped into the Halo fans consciousness smacks of a late intervention from an 'executive consultant' externally drafted in by MS to ensure Halo isn't undermining itself by ignoring genre industry trends.
Another example of the confused multiplayer direction stems again from the GI reveal. I think the magazine said that the weapons due to drop in Global Ordnance would have a countdown waypoint appear sometime in advance of the weapon drop so both teams could mount an assault over the anticipated booty....
What we got was Global Ordnance but with no global heads up to anticipate the incoming drop. Weapons fall at the whim of a dice roll and the only determinate on whether or not you acquire the all important power weapon is if you chanced to be standing next to the random drop. So what happened? The heads up waypoint for an incoming weapon drop was annexed to an individual 'specialisation', something only accessible to a player who had sunk a significant amount of hours into its EXP, time-based investment system. It reeks of another executive decision, attenuating the composite piece as much as possible without dismantling the game completely, in order to justify an industry trend, gameplay altering unlock system.
I've had this vision for some time now. This vision of an executive MS employee sitting in the room with a clip pad and pen. He doesn't say anything. But he listens and watches everything the designers are saying and doing at 343. He notes things down on his pad when 343 are discussing multiplayer ideas. A 343 employee asks what he's writing down. He replies "Oh, nothing important, please, carry on as if I wasn't here". Then 343 get E-mails from MS exec directors the same evening warning against ideas they floated that working day.
Then that same executive gets to look at the daily peak numbers and see that he fucked up.
And then he looks at units sold and is like, "LOL we got this!"
My guess is that when the next Halo launches people aren't going to be as easily bought with hype. It had been nearly 5 years since the last MC numbered title and everyone was probably a little tired from Reach.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Na i don't think it was an executive decision at all. If anything, it was to me a sign of how gamers are not playing games today they way they used to in the past. Maybe Halo4 did make some mistakes, but it was all by design. One thing that COD has done since COD4 is change the way casuals play games online. And those casuals are the people who made Halo2 huge back in the day. The reason they play COD now is because in that game, everyone can be good. Get a few kills, get a lot of points, call in a UAV, a chopper, a turret, whatever. The game helps the gamer be better at the game and in the end, its an ultimately more gratifying experience to them than Halo is. Get 5 kills, unlock a scope, camo, etc.. its constant "instant gratification" in that game. And it does that very VERY well.
Notice how the huge games all have a lot of "instant gratification" in them now. Thats what 343i tried to do with 4, give more incentive to the people who arent that good at Halo to be good at Halo.
And that's why I don't like CoD's multiplayer, it's trying to be too flashy and rewarding. The only feeling of reward I need is when I outsmart an opponent in Halo, that's why I keep coming back to 4 as much as I don't like it. Sure I could go play CoD and have some fun, but it's all mindless fun. In CoD all I do is run laps around the map, kill anybody I see, repeat and it's way too easy and routine. I don't find that enjoyable, but I'd rather be playing with my friends and they've all abandoned Halo 4. I keep wanting to enjoy my time with 4, but every time I go back to give it another chance I get slapped in the face and it becomes rage inducing. My desire to be gaming has slowly been reducing as I see what it's becoming and it's completely depressing to be feeling this way.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Heh, this scenario reminds me of the MS executive that tried to remove the chainsaw from the lancer in GOW because 'they didn't get it'.
If memory recalls it was in a Cliffy B interview with Edge.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Its going to be very interesting to see what the support for 4 is going to bring in the future and the overall direction of 5 is going to be.
Honestly, to me its very simple: add the features you feel are going to make a better game, but give the option for gamers to turn it off or customize it. Its really not that complicated.
Had 343i added the new flag mode where i "have to" pick up the flag and not drop it, but still have given me the option to create my own flag mode with that off, (or one flag ability) people wouldn't be bitching as much. But its forced down your throat and the old way cant even be created or modified for custom games anymore! Of course Halo fans are going to be angry. Shit, if you wanna add a new game-type like extraction, fine add it. But give me options and the ability to modify that game-type as i see fit. And dont remove the old proven ones like Assault that play differently than anything you have in this game.
To me the big problem in this game is not what they added, its what they removed. Theres a lot less customizable options for game-types in this game and thats what hurts it imo.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
This is the problem right here. The name sold this game.
This is the other problem. This is going to be their huge nextbox title and a lot of people are going to take a wait and see approach, especially since they need to buy a new console to play it.
Halo 2 HD is not moving that new console.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
Actually, if they can add 1 Extraction point to TTD then they should just put 1 flag into CTF. It has its own playlist, let people vote on it.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Thats one option, but i dont think that its built into the custom options so they cant do that. They have to patch it in the game! Had they just added options, they could have. But they didnt.
Bungie added "everything but the kitchen sink" to their Halo games, these guys are removing them. Of course Halo fans are pissed. Its an absolute ridiculous move to give people less options, less game-types and expect them to be happier.
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