That's the question I kept asking, and this post from Luke made me think your position could shift based on both continued performance - for better or worse - and population performance changes, since it's a relative measure. So after you qualify for a Season, you can shift by both not playing - and the population around you improving - and by influencing your rank by improving or worsening your total performance.EazyB said:See, it's this part that I'm unclear on. Does your rank just only by new players getting placed in their arena division or by the user actually player better in in future matches that season.
TrueSkill is indeed used, but that is kept 100% hidden from the player. It's purely used to find competitive matches in the background. The player rating algorithm and resulting score is entirely separate (and soon, to be published).Mo0 said:Is it really TrueSkill, though? That ranges from 1 to 50, and last I heard the ratings in Reach were going to be a 4 digit number like ELO.
Yeah, pretty much. Disappointment total.FunkyMunkey said:Okay, that 60 second ad was absolutely horrid. No action, no augmentation pain or development of the character, no months of rehabilitation and near death activities, nothing. He didn't flinch at all and it looked like he was getting his damn blood pressure taken. A minute is still long enough to convey a better/deeper message than that uneventful debacle.
According to that commercial, Carter is a pussy who laid on a table for a few minutes and put on his spartan suit afterwards as if he's ready to be elite.
Whoever was in charge of this ad, shame on you. I wouldn't eat a cake with a picture of that commercial on it even if I was starving. And knowing for a fact that even my imagination could have crapped something better out in 5 minutes flat (which doesn't happen often) is disheartening.
shame
professor_t said:Am I the only one who doesn't want a friends and family code? I'm simply too busy right now to enjoy it.
And, no, this is not some weak-ass effort at reverse psychology.
And, I know you're already wondering this, but I'm not saying it's not reverse psychology to prevent you from realizing that I'm actually using reverse psychology.
That makes the most sense to me, it's just weird they haven't explicitly said so (unless I'm just that dense). Some things about it still seem weird though. Seems like you'd only want to enter the arena on days where you knew you could play a shitton of games so even if you're not all that great your daily ranking will be high because of the 20 games you played you caught a break in 3 of them.GhaleonEB said:That's the question I kept asking, and this post from Luke made me think your position could shift based on both continued performance - for better or worse - and population performance changes, since it's a relative measure. So after you qualify for a Season, you can shift by both not playing - and the population around you improving - and by influencing your rank by improving or worsening your total performance.
If I have it right: Every game contributes to the Trueskill calculation, but only the top three games of each day (the Daily Rating) contributes to your Divisional placement. Even after you have qualified for an initial Division.
EvaPlusMinus said:
I can see the rationale behind it, but that is a downside. You don't want to have someone qualify with just a couple great games, then call it a day and have that carry them. You've got to be good over several games and several days to establish a pattern of high caliber play; a couple fluke games won't get you into Gold. It takes at least nine (in the Beta, at least). And at the same time, a handful of crappy ones won't destroy your rating, so there's not a strong de-motivator to stop playing after getting a good Daily Rating: it can only improve, not get worse. A system that simply took an average of your games would motivate players to stop playing so they didn't drag down their average.EazyB said:That makes the most sense to me, it's just weird they haven't explicitly said so (unless I'm just that dense). Some things about it still seem weird though. Seems like you'd only want to enter the arena on days where you knew you could play a shitton of games so even if you're not all that great your daily ranking will be high because of the 20 games you played you caught a break in 3 of them.
I find that going up against Covenant and absorbing the story of the Campaign are entirely different experiences from multiplayer. If anything, MP leaves me more tantalized, especially in Reach. Boneyard is simply mammoth, and I really want to know what kind of combat goes down there in the Campaign.LovingSteam said:So am I like the only person on the planet that doesn't want to take part in the beta since I am actually more excited for the single player and don't want to ruin it?
Probably, yeah.LovingSteam said:So am I like the only person on the planet that doesn't want to take part in the beta since I am actually more excited for the single player and don't want to ruin it?
http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3171232&type=game&sec=VIDEOSEvaPlusMinus said:Can someone toss up some slick videos of this game? I've seen the waypoint one and Lukems. Also giantbomb, but that was kinda difficult to watch.
Also that Halo ad was horrid.
I would have preferred to experience the game for the first time as I played through the Reach campaign, but since there's a beta, I'm so playing it. No way I can resist playing any bit of it as soon as possible, being this much into Halo.LovingSteam said:So am I like the only person on the planet that doesn't want to take part in the beta since I am actually more excited for the single player and don't want to ruin it?
EvaPlusMinus said:Much appreciated. I was kinda active in the old Halo 3 thread, but I never actually played with any of you. I may need to change that this time around.
Quick edit: Though I suppose I'd need to buy a mic for my 360. I never use it when I play online, so I'm not even sure where my old one is.
Is the official one still the better headset to grab? I don't remember it being so great.
LovingSteam said:Same here. No mic. Never played with any folks in Halo 3. However, when the actual game comes out, I may have to change that (although I will be torn to shreds I am sure).
GhaleonEB said:If I have it right: Every game contributes to the Trueskill calculation, but only the top three games of each day (the Daily Rating) contributes to your Divisional placement. Even after you have qualified for an initial Division.
:lolOuterWorldVoice said:The award-winning Halo marketing team is planning on consulting you as soon as Luke and Lars capture your matchmaking design advice.
That's why he's the man. The ad's still disappointing, though. Compare it with a clip of equal length from any of the older Halo shorts and the difference is plain.Sir Fragula said::lol
Touché, salesman!
why?derFeef said:The extended cut ad is now on Waypoint! I can not watch it though
Even though taking the best games hurts the legitimacy of the daily ranking in a way, it motivates people to keep playing which is the most important aspect. Nothing is worse than being afraid to jump into a playlist because you're scared of losing what you've already earned.GhaleonEB said:I can see the rationale behind it, but that is a downside. You don't want to have someone qualify with just a couple great games, then call it a day and have that carry them. You've got to be good over several games and several days to establish a pattern of high caliber play; a couple fluke games won't get you into Gold. It takes at least nine (in the Beta, at least). And at the same time, a handful of crappy ones won't destroy your rating, so there's not a strong de-motivator to stop playing after getting a good Daily Rating: it can only improve, not get worse. A system that simply took an average of your games would motivate players to stop playing so they didn't drag down their average.
But the net result is, you gotta play in blocks. From the way the beta is set up though, I'm guessing it won't be a high bar. Three games three times a month is not that much. If it were say, ten, then yeah that would be a problem.
Should've refreshed the page. Thanks for continually setting us straight.LukeSmith said:Every game counts toward your division.
I assume it's because he's not near his Xbox.S1kkZ said:why?
I am at work (and my Xbox is in repairs anyway)S1kkZ said:why?
ok, thought it was some kind of ip block.derFeef said:I am at work (and my Xbox is in repairs anyway)
Competitions mostly end Thursday night and codes are being sent out from the sites on Friday.GodfatherX said:So when do the various sites start giving out the friends and family codes? Not that I want in early ( actually with it being derby weekend xbox is the last thing on my agenda, friend in from Germany and beer + infield antics take priority) I just want to be able to boot the beta from my hard drive
Diablohead said:The advert was meh, both cool and not what I expected for making a spartan after reading the books. It just seemed too clean and it looks like it took one injection to become a super strong human.
It's like the director did not understand what makes a spartan or something.
Zeouterlimits said:Competitions mostly end Thursday night and codes are being sent out from the sites on Friday.
Haha don't worry about it man. GG's.Tashi0106 said:Good games tonight Trasher, Ram and Blood. Sorry I couldn't get back in there afterwards, I kind of just got carried away with playing MLG :lol . First game after I left your party was against Legit and Snipedown. We got fucking slaughtered lol. Their random teammates had some really great teamshot and that was the difference. I've been playing like shit for the last couple of days too. Probably won't play Halo 3 until the Beta.