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Halo: Reach Beta Thread

Tashi0106 said:
Hmmm. The Arena formula takes into account the amount of players in a game but I wonder if it's on a per playlist basis or if it's dynamic and is factored in the fly. It's a tough thing to do though. You can't say, well the game doesn't count then because then people would quit out of matches before the game ends. Maybe the game could only count if the teams are even in number? I don't know.
Hmm. It doesn't seem to be showing up on the site; it shows my first game (1665) and my third game (1630) but not the bullshit <1500 game in between. LUKE, PLZ ESPLAIN

I am liking how the formula rewards just crossmapping dudes. Nine assists in the latest game; even though my spread was only +2 I was still rated the highest.
 
Church RvB said:
So my friend is absolutely infuriated about assists being equal to 1 point. (the same as a kill) He got 20 kills in one game, but only had one assist. and my other friend had 13 kills and 9 assists. My friend with 20 kills is mad because he didn't get 'first'. Does anyone else feel like an assist isn't worth 1 point?

Well, assists in the beta right now are a little janky. Generally speaking though assists are extremely important. He wouldn't have gotten all of those kills if it weren't for his teammates assisting him. I also think it's important for assists to have such a high weighting because they promote team work. Team work wins games. Team work is Halo. Games pppshhhh! If I the most kills, the most assists and the fewest deaths, I should be heavily rewarded. The system seems to be set up to do just that.
 
Letters said:
There's a landing strip for the Longswords outside Swordbase if you look out one of the windows.. I fucking called it that there would be one like a month ago and urk mocked me.

BTW, what are the stripes next to your name in the Arena lobby? I have two out of three, is that like the progress towards your daily rating?? If so I've played a bunch of games already, don't tell me these are not counting?? I've been doing good against the new guys lol.

The outside of Sword Base looks amazing. I want someone to get out there and film it for me.
 
The Lamonster said:
Any tricks to make it work?

None that I'm aware of. Seems to randomly load some information at times, and load nothing at other times. When I was on earlier, it loaded my information, but I couldn't see any of my friends information. Now it won't load my information, but I can see all my friend's info.
 
user_nat said:
Hard to say really.. sometimes you could do 99% of the damage to someone and only get an assist. In that case I think you deserve the 1 point as much as the other person. However, for every assist like that there is another where someone hits somebody with one AR bullet and gets an assist.

I think that getting equal points should encourage more teamwork and therefore is a good thing.

Assists are 40% damage dealt minimum. I personally think it should be based on damage dealt and not assists/kills, but oh well. 1 kill by yourself = 1. 1 kill where you finished the last 30% should be 0.3. 1 assist where you'd dealt 75% damage should be 0.75. Etc etc.

Right now you can get a kill dealing just the final 1%, but you need to do at least 40% do get an assist..
 
Mr.Green said:
Well if you're in the mood for BC2 I doubt Halo is gonna cut it. Very different beast.
i used to love Halo, didn't like Melee in Halo 3, but i played quite a bit of Lone Wolves at first... after playing a bit more, and losing horribly, Reach definitely 'feels' like Halo, guess my tastes changed a bit...
 
-Yeti said:
How does clear cache?
Go to the system blade and then select memory.


Press Y on the HD symbol and then press X,X,Left Bumper, Right Bumper, X,X. Once you do this a messsage will appear saying: Do you want to perform maintenance on your Xbox 360 storage devices?
 
Silly.Mikey said:
No wayyyyy, do not touch! Grenades finally feel like grenades, just like in Halo1.

I agree, just decrease the number of them on the map, and maybe spawn with only 1. There are too many of them laying everywhere, and people are constantly stocked up with 2 or 4 of em.
 
No, clearing your cache isn't going to help anything. We're having some problems that are being worked on by top men.
 
subrock said:
Go to the system blade and then select memory.


Press Y on the HD symbol and then press X,X,Left Bumper, Right Bumper, X,X. Once you do this a messsage will appear saying: Do you want to perform maintenance on your Xbox 360 storage devices?

System Blade? LOL

Also, you don't need to do that archaic button combo anymore, there is a button for it; press 'Y' on your HDD and select 'Clear System Cache'.
 
darthbob said:
System Blade? LOL

Also, you don't need to do that archaic button combo anymore, there is a button for it; press 'Y' on your HDD and select 'Clear System Cache'.
He just copy/pasted that from a google hit. :)
 
edit: nvm, already addressed.

-Yeti said:
Wait, doesn't that make it so you have to re-download everything?
Redownload game updates (the mandatory ones), nothing else.
 
subrock said:
Go to the system blade and then select memory.


Press Y on the HD symbol and then press X,X,Left Bumper, Right Bumper, X,X. Once you do this a messsage will appear saying: Do you want to perform maintenance on your Xbox 360 storage devices?

Wait, doesn't that make it so you have to re-download everything?

EDIT: Nevermind lol
 
darthbob said:
System Blade? LOL

Also, you don't need to do that archaic button combo anymore, there is a button for it; press 'Y' on your HDD and select 'Clear System Cache'.
thats what I get for googling.
 
Church RvB said:
So my friend is absolutely infuriated about assists being equal to 1 point. (the same as a kill) He got 20 kills in one game, but only had one assist. and my other friend had 13 kills and 9 assists. My friend with 20 kills is mad because he didn't get 'first'. Does anyone else feel like an assist isn't worth 1 point?

Tell your friend he's an idiot. :P

Seriously, unless your friend can claim, with a straight face, that he was responsible for the majority of the damage dealt to every kill he was given credit for, he cant claim the kill is worth more.

He's basically arguing that the last kill shot with worth more than all the work that went into taking down the other 99% of the player's damage.

But Im biased. Im getting 1600s based on assists, with and average of+5 K/D differentials. My last game, I got 14 kills, 11 assists, 8 deaths. Came out on top :D
 
Net_Wrecker said:
I agree, just decrease the number of them on the map, and maybe spawn with only 1. There are too many of them laying everywhere, and people are constantly stocked up with 2 or 4 of em.


I'm pretty sure you can only carry up to two now.
 
Trickster said:
Gah, just had my first "wtf, really?" moment with the arena ratings. I had 11 kills and 9 deaths, while another guy on my team had 13 kills and a massive 19 deaths, and he got a higher rating than me?

Do your killcount really factor that highly compared to your deathcount?
Yeah, and assists.


@Genesis Knight

I think that is higher then average. 2000 is the highest but it's pretty much impossible to get that. Never saw anybody higher then 1750 or something.
 
Cocopjojo said:
No, clearing your cache isn't going to help anything. We're having some problems that are being worked on by top men.
Clearing my cache as we speak. Any other tips to speed this whole process up? I heard starting your search over again if you don't find a game right away is the best thing to do.
 
Devin Olsen said:
Clearing my cache as we speak. Any other tips to speed this whole process up? I heard starting your search over again if you don't find a game right away is the best thing to do.
Joke post? :p

Ok ok... I have played at least 3 matches today so I have my daily rating. My daily rating can further be increased should I play better after the intitial rating is set. I get 3 of these daily ones and I get into a division. So what happens if I play a 4th day really well, perhaps far better than my others. Will I just place higer in my division?

What is stopping a player pretending to be really bad for 3 days just so they have easy opponents for the rest of the season?
 
Net_Wrecker said:
I meant both frags, and plasma.


Eh, can't say I agree with you. I found myself constantly searching for new grenades since I used them quickly. Also, I think some of the people annoyed with prevalence of the grenades are just being reactionary.
 
@Genesis Knight

I think that is higher then average. 2000 is the highest but it's pretty much impossible to get that. Never saw anybody higher then 1750 or something.

Wow, cool. I didn't start playing Halo until a year ago and I got wiped up on Halo 3 so much... My theory has been that the only people still playing Halo 3 at this point are very good after so much practice and enough dedication to stick with it in the face of Modern Warfare 2. In my dreams I'm actually good if thrown in with people my skill level. Maybe I am.
 
Trickster said:
Do your killcount really factor that highly compared to your deathcount?

How do your assists compare?

Church RvB said:
My friend with 20 kills is mad because he didn't get 'first'. Does anyone else feel like an assist isn't worth 1 point?

Sometimes it's worth more than one point. Say you were hunting an opponent and unloading into him to take down their shields but he manages to turn a corner and get away. Your teammate sees him and finishes him. In that case you did more work for it.

It can also be the opposite.

The fairest thing is to see how much percent damage you did to the guy to kill him and give you points based on that but I don't see that happening.

I can live with a kill = assist deal. It might get strangers to work together.
 
I like how assists are weighted the same as kills. It encourages teams to work together and not worry about dumb 'kill stealing'.
 
Finally gave up on playing; we got maybe 4 or 5 matches in okay, then it just started totally failing to load the playlist. I knew this was going to happen, re-affirming my decision to not take a half day today :lol

Hopefully they'll get everything taken care of by tomorrow. Also my Bungie Pro STILL doesn't show up, and it's been about 36 hours since I bought it (and it downloaded) so what the fuck urk. Get your techies off their little "server" problems and fix it!
 
Kimosabae said:
Eh, can't say I agree with you. I found myself constantly searching for new grenades since I used them quickly. Also, I think some of the people annoyed with prevalence of the grenades are just being reactionary.

I'm willing to bet you used them quickly BECAUSE you are rarely without at least one grenade. If they weren't in the numbers they are right now, everyone would be more careful about when, and where they are using them.
 
Genesis Knight said:
Having assists = kills is brilliant.
Now instead of worrying about just myself, I call out to my team when I need help getting another guy. With my team of 4 today, we were just calling out positions and taking them down together instead of going lone wolf. It is so much more productive.
 
So it was pretty fun. Love the armor abilities. But i wish there were more maps. more open greener ones. And I only pulled off 2 assassinations. They are kinda hard. :lol
 
Two things are bothering me:

1. The available maps are too small.

2. Reticule is difficult to see. Light blue doesn't stand out well on blue maps, or when there's tons of grenades and chaos going on. I've always wondered why Halo and other console FPS's don't let you customize the color like PC FPS's such as CS.

It helps massively, especially with the pistol.
 
Net_Wrecker said:
I'm willing to bet you used them quickly BECAUSE you are rarely without at least one grenade. If they weren't in the numbers they are right now, everyone would be more careful about when, and where they are using them.


Umm, nah. I used them quickly because;

A. I'd often have ZERO.

B. I haven't been into a Halo game since Halo 1, so I'm really bad.

And it's not like my experience was that of grenades constantly going off all over the place. I hardly felt their presence in the sense of numbers was any greater.
 
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