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Harvey Weinstein Forced Out of His Own Company

Savitar

Member
He must be pretty savage to be kicked out of the company he started. Shouldn't have been such a creep. Pity so many abusers still left in the industry.
 

Late Flag

Member
By bringing it up like this, you appear to be applauding them giving a standing ovation for a child rapist and asking them to do the same for a chronic sexual harasser.

Only if you ignore the second sentence of his post:

He fits right in their hypocrite rotten culture.

I don't think this can be fairly interpreted as an endorsement of Hollywood's status quo.
 

Friggz

Member
harvey has been a piece of shit for as long as ive known him, everything happening to him is well deserved and long overdue.

good riddance.
 

Jobbs

Banned
We're at the point where the idea of rich and powerful men not being predators would be more surprising to me
 
We're at the point where the idea of rich and powerful men not being predators would be more surprising to me

Sadly, it's part of the lifestyle. Reading about billionaire pedophiles like Jeffrey Epstein, looking into dozens of conspiracy theories about sex trafficking rings all over the world involving the 1% (most famously in Belgium)...

Unlike the usual hysteria, this stuff becomes plausible when it deals with men who are essentially above the law. I don't believe that your average man is a closet abuser, but I'm way more inclined to believe that a billionaire who owns a secluded home on a private island gets up to some weird shit there.
 

ryan13ts

Member
Great news, although the fucked up part is that he's still a multi-millionare that's set for the rest of his life even in the midst of all this. This is probably just early retirement for him sadly enough.
 

JABEE

Member
I find it really hard to believe that people like Meryl Streep, Kevin Smith had no idea about Weinstein's casting couch reputation when it was part of award show jokes and casual followers of the industry knew about Weinstein's reputation.

It's like the Bill Cosby thing. Suddenly once Weinstein's actions are more public and his reputation is damaged to the point where he is no longer useful is it now okay to charge and criticize him. No one except Hannibal Burress knew about Cosby's actions just like it took the New York Times to reveal to Meryl Streep that Harvey Weinstein was a sex predator.

I'm not buying it. My reaction to the Weinstein piece being "I guess they finally pinned him down on it," should say everything. Hollywood and many other industries care only about funding their projects. Cosby was not a surprise. Almost every rock musician of the 1970s is not a surprise. A culture dependent on using teenage girls as they travel from town to town. Weinstein is definitely not a surprise. A culture of using attractive young people with lottery-ticket dreams.
 

DiscoJer

Member
I find it really hard to believe that people like Meryl Streep, Kevin Smith had no idea about Weinstein's casting couch reputation when it was part of award show jokes and casual followers of the industry knew about Weinstein's reputation.
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I think it's just part of acceptable culture in Hollywood. This sort of thing has been going on since Hollywood has existed.

It's wrong and it's monstrous, but sometimes those things are just accepted. Another thing is prison rape. It's incredibly common and when it's even thought of, it's considered a joke by society (and entertainment media). But it's a horrible crime. (I mention this because just the other day I saw a Norm McDonald/Artie Lange movie that had a joke about it)
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
And If everybody knew, I don’t believe that all the investigative reporters in the entertainment and the hard news media would have neglected for decades to write about it.
Systematic corruption in a nutshell.
 

JABEE

Member
I think it's just part of acceptable culture in Hollywood. This sort of thing has been going on since Hollywood has existed.

It's wrong and it's monstrous, but sometimes those things are just accepted. Another thing is prison rape. It's incredibly common and when it's even thought of, it's considered a joke by society (and entertainment media). But it's a horrible crime. (I mention this because just the other day I saw a Norm McDonald/Artie Lange movie that had a joke about it)

I think the movie you are referencing is Dirty Work.

I think sometimes jokes are used just to cope. It also brings to surface stuff people wouldn't normally talk about otherwise. It also has the bad impact of marginalizing serious issues at the same time.

I'm not saying the Weinstein joke at the award show shouldn't have been made. The fact that it was so easy to go to him says something.

I'm saying the response of "I didn't know" or "someone from the entertainment press should have uncovered it" is disingenuous.

Kevin Smith's answer is probably the most people should expect. Remorse and guilt. Publicly, I guess you have to be "shocked," because any other response would blow back on you for not doing more.

Harvey Weinstein's story is one as old as institutions. Whether it's a record producer, film producer, teacher, Priest, President, Governor. People abusing power to take from people they hold power over.
 
Weinstein sent a letter to all Hollywood CEOs asking if they could immediately back him up (also he's totally innocent but is getting therapy):

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Weinstein sent a letter to all Hollywood CEOs asking if they could immediately back him up (also he's totally innocent but is getting therapy):

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Dudes letter makes him sound straight up like a fucking drug addict, and if there's anything I've learned in life it's that you never take a drug addict at their word.

What a fucking scumbag rat.
 
I'm judging them for not speaking out. Smith bills himself as a friend to women and a straight shooter, but he's said nothing. And I stick by the viewpoint that morals should always trump finances, when shit like this is involved.

He's said something now. Is that acceptable to you? Or is taking time to not immediately inform you of what he thinks a damnable offence.
 

Budi

Member
Weinstein sent a letter to all Hollywood CEOs asking if they could immediately back him up (also he's totally innocent but is getting therapy):

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The one good thing about this letter, it shows that he was under a lot of pressure. Love to know that he's been sweating.
 
Glenn Close's statement about Weinstein was certainly interesting:

I'm sitting here, deeply upset, acknowledging to myself that, yes, for many years, I have been aware of the vague rumors that Harvey Weinstein had a pattern of behaving inappropriately around women. Harvey has always been decent to me, but now that the rumors are being substantiated, I feel angry and darkly sad.

I'm angry, not just at him and the conspiracy of silence around his actions, but also that the ”casting couch" phenomenon, so to speak, is still a reality in our business and in the world: the horrible pressure, the awful expectation put on a woman when a powerful, egotistical, entitled bully expects sexual favors in exchange for a job.

Ours is an industry in which very few actors are indispensable and women are cast in far fewer roles than men, so the stakes are higher for women and make them more vulnerable to the manipulations of a predator. I applaud the monumental courage of the women who have spoken up. I hope that their stories and the reportage that gave them their voices represents a tipping point, that more stories will be told and that change will follow.

The changes must be both institutional and personal. Men and women, in positions of power, must create a work environment in which people, whose jobs depend on them, feel safe to report threatening and inappropriate behavior, like that reported in the Times. No one should be coerced into trading personal dignity for professional success. I feel the time is long and tragically overdue for all of us in the industry, women and men, to unite — calmly and dispassionately — and create a new culture of respect, equality and empowerment, where bullies and their enablers are no longer allowed to prosper.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/movies/dench-close-streep-weinstein.html

Other statements from other legendary actresses like Judi Dench, Meryl Streep, Kate Winslet and more as well speaking about it.
 

MIMIC

Banned
I only vaguely know of this guy. I figured he was a movie executive or something, but didn't know he was a huge Dem donor as well. Was watching CNN just a few minutes ago and they were talking about how much he gave to Hillary and Obama.

But Republicans calling for people to condemn him is about the most embarrassing and shameless thing I have ever seen.
 

Budi

Member
Please give me a chance by letting me go to therapy for something I am claiming didn't happen
He doesn't say that any of it didn't happen, just that all the accusations aren't true. Not that would matter at all or that he is someone who should be believed about that. But he really isn't claiming complete innocence there.
 

RS4-

Member
Posted?

The Guardian reached out to more than 20 male actors and directors who have worked with the movie mogul over the years, some of whom have ongoing projects with Weinstein. All declined to comment or did not respond to inquiries about the accusations that the producer sexually harassed women over a period of nearly three decades. He allegedly invited vulnerable women to hotel rooms for business reasons and then greeted them in the nude or asked them to massage him or watch him shower, according to a New York Times report.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...llywood-men-actors-directors?CMP=share_btn_tw
 

Krev

Unconfirmed Member
The letter is so desperate and pathetic that it makes me feel bad for him. Not sorry for him, of course; he's getting less than he deserves right now.
 
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