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[Vinzer Deling]

hmmm he isn't as popular as he once was in Japan, sadly... I think Musashi or Genki gets more press now and days...

He's still more popular then the 3 fighters he fought combined to the 10th power.

He is a big draw, but him being there does that already... K-1's bottom line doesn't move up nor down if he wins or loses... in fact him losing could promote a new national star...if you were going to fix things and all that...

Let's see.. promoting our proven draw, our biggest star that will create a huge publicity -Or- take a gamble to promote 3 tomato cans.

Tough choice!

I didn't know the road to being a national hero goes to Bob Sapp.

Dude, Sokar, you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you know anything about the state of K-1 now or even Japanese culture for that matter?

I know they're not above fixing fights. Japanese fans even care as long as it's exciting to watch.

While it's true that Bob is K-1's biggest and basically only draw it's due more to the work that Bob did on his career. Back during Bob Sapp mania he was doing all sorts of extra stuff. When you look at the other fighters in K-1 they're just that, pretty much guys who can fight without much personality or ability to do other stuff.

That's like saying Nike Air Jordans is what made Jordan popular. :lol

Do you honesty think the old school Yakuza dudes running K-1 want someone like Bob Sapp to become bigger than their sport by being a huge personality outside it and by dominating inside it by winning all the time? Also, have you ever watched a K1 match or one of Bob's matches? I haven't seen a single one of his fights that looked fake.

As long as it brings in money. Why not? You obviously don't understand the concept of work.. this isn't pro-wrestling type work.

Also, even if Bob was the biggest draw do you really think Japanese want to see a foreigner dominate them? Look at Sumo, with the introduction of foreigners who are dominating the sport there's alot of people here in Japan that want to kick them out. Watch the news or listen to the radio and you will hear about Japanese athletes in leagues around the world doing well -- even if they are total scrubs. If any fixing ever went on it'd probably be against Bob and you'd see headlines the next day "Dimunitive Japanese fighter uses his technique and quickness to best the beast"

Uh last I checked K-1 has been dominated by foreign fighters for a long time.

I hate how there is always someone in topics like these (not usually here, but a lot at places like Sherdog) that claim a fight was worked or that a certain fighter juices without so much as a shred of proof. Unless you have something to back up those sorts of claims, then please don't make them.

Anyways, I don't think the fights are "worked", but I do question whether some judge's decisions are bias. I thought about this after seeing Kaoklai v Musashi, where the fight went to the extra round and was awarded to Musashi even though he looked absolutely ragged towards the end and Kaoklai clearly had him beat (in my eyes). That panel was largely Japanese and I think that the judges had too much pride to give the fight to a Thai.

I'm still new to MMA, so I'm not one to judge these decisions I suppose, but I'd accept them more willingly if there was a more diversified panel.

Why are you even talking to me? Your sole interest in MMA/K-1 was because of your fetish for hard bodied boyishly good looking Japanese/Asian guys. :lol

 

[Boogie]

Look, unless you actually have some evidence or real reasoning to believe that the fights were worked, just lay off.

You look like a douchebag with your chanting of "work" without any evidence or reasoning.

Just because K-1 would like Sapp to win, doesn't mean that it's a work when he does. You can say that they picked a crop of opponents for the tournament that were beatable for him, but that's really it. Once they step into the ring, anything can happen.

 

[Deleted member 4784]

Why are you even talking to me? Your sole interest in MMA/K-1 was because of your fetish for hard bodied boyishly good looking Japanese/Asian guys. :lol

I will admit that the hot Asian guys were a mitigating factor in my converstion to MMA (LOL! :lol), but that doesn't make me any less of a fan in terms of appreciation. I guess that you could equate it to how some guys enjoy football and find the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders to be an additional bonus.

Anyways, I was just commenting on the subject at hand; I wasn't meaning to directly address you personally. Although, I do agree with what Boogie has said about your claims. Yes, I do think it is possible that some judge's decisions may be racially motivated/biased. Yes, I do think it is possible that certain match-ups are made intentionally between at-odds weight classes. When it comes to the fights themselves though, I don't see how anyone can claim they are "worked".

 

[Vinzer Deling]

Look, unless you actually have some evidence or real reasoning to believe that the fights were worked, just lay off. You look like a douchebag with your chanting of "work" without any evidence or reasoning.

Yeah dude, I found the evidence outside in a trash can that was labeled "CONFIDENTIAL BLACK OPS TOP SECRET K-1 WORK PLAN FOR BOB SAPP".

Just because K-1 would like Sapp to win, doesn't mean that it's a work when he does. You can say that they picked a crop of opponents for the tournament that were beatable for him, but that's really it. Once they step into the ring, anything can happen.

So why don't they put in some non-Japanese scrubs? Oh right...

 

[Deleted member 4784]

I can see where you're coming from because K-1 isn't sanctioned, so it is possible that Sapp was put up against tomatos, but how can you claim that the fights themselves were "worked"? I mean, if they were going to work the fights themselves, then why not put Sapp up against some major backbone? That would give it a much more "circus" appeal.

Forgive my ignorance, but I have to say that logically, I don't see why there would be a need to "work" the fights.

 

[tetsuoxb]

Yeah dude, I found the evidence outside in a trash can that was labeled "CONFIDENTIAL BLACK OPS TOP SECRET K-1 WORK PLAN FOR BOB SAPP".



So why don't they put in some non-Japanese scrubs? Oh right...

I am going to go ahead and agree that you are a douchebag.

I am fully aware that the internet is the home to anonymous slander and libel for the world's bored and bewildered masses, but it is a damn shame that a board like GAF has to deal with asshats like you.

If you think it is a work, good for you. If you have any reasons to support this other than the caliber of his opponents, you might have a valid point. However, as of now, you just sound like an AICN talkbacker whining about this and that.

BTW: Do you live in Japan and see the weeks of press coverage and interviews before a K-1 event. If you did, I would suspect it would color your opinion of the issue quite a bit. Or since you are pretty much braindead, maybe it wouldnt.

 

[Vinzer Deling]

you might have a valid point.

I agree, it was worked.

 

[Blackace]

I agree, it was worked.

I agree that you are banned...

And yes have no proof for something you are claiming is a fact is a crime in my book...And to other people, not liking Bob Sapp is not a bannable offense.... Just don't be a troll in a congrats thread..

 

[Boogie]

:lol

What we need for this occassion is a Bob Sapp "Owned" image.

 

[Minotauro]

:lol

What we need for this occassion is a Bob Sapp "Owned" image.

Here, let me provide the source image:

 

[DJ_Tet]

:lol

 

[Deleted member 4784]

:lol

What we need for this occassion is a Bob Sapp "Owned" image.

Well, I did try at least. :lol

BTW, I hate seeing people banned. =\ Will it be temp or perm?

 

[Asbel]

Only one way to prove Sapp doesn't work fights..

3 way, last man standing, lumber jack match.

 

[Boogie]

Here, let me provide the source image:

Not what I meant

But I knew someone was going to post a pic of the Fujita fight.

 

[Blackace]

Only one way to prove Sapp doesn't work fights..

3 way, last man standing, lumber jack match.

I am quite sure that can happen.. you know they are both fighting in Osaka? in the GP...

 

[Asbel]

I am quite sure that can happen.. you know they are both fighting in Osaka? in the GP...

Yeah, looks like k-1's already hyping that match. I hear Sapp's been throwing good leg kicks. He'll want to use them.

 

[Blackace]

Yeah, looks like k-1's already hyping that match. I hear Sapp's been throwing good leg kicks. He'll want to use them.

His kicks are sharp.. legs kicks are looking good.. even his mid kicks are becoming useful... I think Bob can take him... He just has to not duck his head so much or he'll catch that knee...