inpHilltr8r
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The MPAA wants to plug your analog hole!
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HD and the PS3
- Thread starter Zaptruder
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Playing HD through component would KILL Hollywood. Piracy would be through the roof, and don't tell me it wouldn't happen. It's ALREADY easy enough to copy content off a HD DVR and distribute it on the Internet. Now take these print quality releases and make them easily copied through using component - it would be the stupidest thing the movie studios could support.
I have no problem with the copy protection, but that's because I actually BUY my movies, and I want the best quality that Hollywood feels they can safely give me. If you were an early adapter, that is the risk you take. I have no sympathy for those who cry foul because their equipment doesn't support DVI or HDMI. My older HDTV even has DVI/HDCP while ALL newer HDTV's that aren't complete crap have HDMI inputs or DVI/HDCP.
I have no problem with the copy protection, but that's because I actually BUY my movies, and I want the best quality that Hollywood feels they can safely give me. If you were an early adapter, that is the risk you take. I have no sympathy for those who cry foul because their equipment doesn't support DVI or HDMI. My older HDTV even has DVI/HDCP while ALL newer HDTV's that aren't complete crap have HDMI inputs or DVI/HDCP.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
Piracy will happen no matter what they do.
pcostabel
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trmas said:
There is no consumer equipment to record HD video from an analog component signal that I know of, and even if there was, the quality wouldn't be the same as the original digital signal.
Besides, professional pirates can simply make a bit by bit copy of the disc, no amount of encryption will stop that.
The whole DRM thing is not aimed at defeating piracy, it is designed to restrict the fair use rights of consumers.
Professional pirates are slowly being put out of business. The movie industry is doing more and more to track these people down and shut them down than ever before. As for the rest, I agree to an extent, but I think the whole Hollywood is screwing us thing is being overdone. If your HDTV doesn't support DVI or HDMI, go buy another one. You obviously can afford it if you payed the insane prices early adopters were paying years ago.
trmas said:
And what about the people who bought this Christmas? Since a good percentage of sets still don't include HDMI or DVI, a good deal of consumers have brand new, HD sets without these features. If you don't believe me, go and read the HDMI group's own figures.
Telling people to go buy another set, when they have displays that are fully capable of pumping out HD resolutions is a bit heavy handed, don't you think? They aren't buying hamstung televisions, the technology that is going to be required by next generation media players is the crippling element. And since we all know that the idea of copyright protection is busted to begin with, then the only people such "technology" is going to become a detriment to is the majority of HD television owners sitting without the neccessary inputs.
And, for the record, HDMI cabling, as opposed to component, is actually more succeptable to external interference and in many cases, depending on the set and the circuitry involved, can display content that is significantly downgraded when compared with its analog forerunner. Both technologies are great and everyone would be well advised to go with HDMI/DVI considering not the quality of the signals, but the future media players which may arbitrarily downgrade the shit you pay hard earned money for because a tiny fraction of consumers may or may not want to copy it and share it over the "internets."
I just bought a 32" LCD without HDMI or DVI-D... 
it has DVI, and it does nearly everything... it just doesn't have the DCP shit that studios are intrested in.
Well that's ok; the PS3 will be cracked, they'll release modchips that don't require HDCP for HD output, and I'll be the one laughing.
it has DVI, and it does nearly everything... it just doesn't have the DCP shit that studios are intrested in.Well that's ok; the PS3 will be cracked, they'll release modchips that don't require HDCP for HD output, and I'll be the one laughing.
Zap - what did you buy? The only complaint I'd have with inputs on the newer HDTV's is there arent' usually more than one of the HDMI/DVI inputs with them. And are they STILL selling sets with DVI that doesn't support DHCP? I know all the major manufacturers support these formats and most of the ones I've never heard of do so as well.
trmas said:
So, unless you shop at THE NUMBER ONE RETAILER ON THE PLANET, than you're okay?
About a month ago this discussion was ongoing here, and so I went to Wally World to see what was being sold to consumers (read: not savvy). Turns out that the majority of the sets are still standard definition and of the minority that are HD, most did NOT have DVI/HDMI inputs.
Best Buy is a little bit better (the number two retailer and number one electronics retailer in the world), but they still offer a significant number of incompatible sets and the truth is, most consumers haven't a clue what type of inputs they need for the HD technology coming this year.
Sure, it's easy to sit back and say, "Dude, just drop another two grand. You're the moron who didn't spend hours online figuring out all your future needs," but the truth is that the sets they are buying ARE capable of handling all the right resolutions. It's the HD technology tacked onto the players that is the point of contention here.
The piracy prevention stuff is getting out of hand. Instead of going after the skull and bones, companies are just lobbing cannonballs at anything that floats, hoping that an errant sphere of iron is going to do the trick. The real truth is that the industry still makes billions from their legit customers and it would serve them well not to punish those who are paying for their products.