Hellfire missile bounces off UFO

I saw somebody suggest this probably is an argument it isn't alien/advanced life related because they came at it with weapons and shot it. If they suspected it originated from advanced intelligence or advanced life, shooting at it is what they arguably wouldn't do.
 
DreamcastSkies said:
I saw somebody suggest this probably is an argument it isn't alien/advanced life related because they came at it with weapons and shot it. If they suspected it originated from advanced intelligence or advanced life, shooting at it is what they arguably wouldn't do.
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someone suggested that they might have used a switchblade

That makes a ton of sense to me because those are designed to cause minimal fallout. Exactly what you would want to do if you were hoping to recover and study it. As opposed to blowing it up into a million pieces.
 
Isn't the US 5th Fleet active in those waters? It's possible they opened fire because the bogey ignored repeated commands and was heading straight for a US vessel.
 
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Pimpbaa said:
That's why I was thinking. Should we really be firing at UFOs?
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Depends. Was it a reverse engineered, or something outer worldly?

I thought the reclassification for these things were UAP's? according to the Pentagon. In this day in age an unidentified flying object is just to vague.
 
MrCunningham said:
Depends. Was it a reverse engineered, or something outer worldly?

I thought the reclassification for these things were UAP's? according to the Pentagon. In this day and age an unidentified flying object is just to vague.
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UAP is more broad and covers things that aren't objects, phenomena like lens flares or video artifacts

I actually agree with the military's general reclassification on that basis

Having said that, this is clearly an object
 
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I collect VHS tapes said:
UAP is more broad and covers things that aren't objects, phenomena like lens flares or video artifacts

I actually agree with the military's general reclassification on that basis

Having said that, this is clearly an object
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I didn't watch the video when I made that comment. The news report jumps between both terminologies. I still prefer the acronym 'UFO', but I guess with more unaccountable flying objects in the sky, I can see why there is an attempt to change the meaning to something more extra terrestrial.

Given where I live in Canada, I have seen my fair share of UAP's/ UFO's, and other weird things in the sky. Some during the night and some in the day. I don't mean tiny little glowing moving dots in the sky that could easily be a satellite or even star link. As far as I know, I have seen star link satellites traveling in uniformed groups, they look like Chinese lanterns. It was quite freaky to see this for the first time...



On two completely different occasions, I have witnessed to low flying glowing orbs in the sky. One during the day. It was flying roughly at tree level. It just makes me wonder if Bob Lazar type of accounts hold any weight to them.
 
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Looks like its made up of some sort of a viscous liquid?
The way the "debris" broke up looks as if it formed blobs and then kept going as if it was magnatically connected to the main body

Do these cameras not have temperature sensors on them?
 
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Lots of things look like 'Glowing Orbs' on thermal cameras. As the big LASE DES message on the screen indicates, there is a laser pointed at the target, an infrared laser which would be extremely bright on a thermal camera.
The Hellfire missile also looks like a glowing orb and then does not bonce off but simply miss. The Hellfire has no proximity fuze and is not a very good weapon to use against a drone. It passes the target, it cannot 'bouce off' as that would have triggered a detonation.

You can also see the Hellfire is making a last second turn just before it would hit and continue in a straight line afterwards. It looks like it was deflected but you can see the swerve already started at 0:33 in the footage.
 
MisterFalcon said:
Lots of things look like 'Glowing Orbs' on thermal cameras. As the big LASE DES message on the screen indicates, there is a laser pointed at the target, an infrared laser which would be extremely bright on a thermal camera.
The Hellfire missile also looks like a glowing orb and then does not bonce off but simply miss. The Hellfire has no proximity fuze and is not a very good weapon to use against a drone. It passes the target, it cannot 'bouce off' as that would have triggered a detonation.

You can also see the Hellfire is making a last second turn just before it would hit and continue in a straight line afterwards. It looks like it was deflected but you can see the swerve already started at 0:33 in the footage.
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It clearly hit and kept going.
 
Days like these... said:
Who is they? That video was.shot in Yemen I think
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I think that's what they said. A part of the world where missiles and other projectiles are fired, on what seems like a daily basis. (Everything from rpgs, to ballistic and hypersonic projectiles)

Could be something drone, or experimental related ? Did they say where the object was headed ?

There is something there and the blobs are weird, after the missile goes through ? Or around ? Could they be sections that were dislodged from the main object. Failing from the sky and out of camera sight ?

Could see that. Rather than they just say hello to a potential ufo, by shooting hellfire missiles at it
 
Forget whether this is real or not..... why on earth would they shoot a hellfire missile at a UFO? (whether of earth origin or not)

The only 'scary' part of this video is how potentially violent we are towards a potential (heh) alien object (no, I don't believe in aliens, at least, not ones that would or even could visit us)
 
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ForAcademicPurposes said:
Everything entering an illegal airspace gets shot down. It's the rule of the jungle.
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Oh, yeh, and I agree with that, I was just pointing out that 'maybe' if it was an actual alien threat (which I don't think it is) then we shouldn't shoot at them as their technology would be FAR in advance of ours, it just reminded me of Independence Day with the police telling people to not shoot guns at the alien aircraft (it would be like firing a blow dart at a tank).
 
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midnightAI said:
Oh, yeh, and I agree with that, I was just pointing out that 'maybe' if it was an actual alien threat (which I don't think it is) then we shouldn't shoot at them as their technology would be FAR in advance of ours, it just reminded me of Independence Day with the police telling people to not shoot guns at the alien aircraft (it would be like firing a blow dart at a tank).
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Yemen is a hotbed of terrorist activity under the Houthis, who had been regularly attacking shipping in the Red Sea using missiles and drones. Makes sense that they would judge any high-velocity object flying towards the shipping lanes as an immediate threat and sought to take it out. I don't think "Oh, might be alien tech, best leave it alone" was the first thought running through their minds.
 
DaciaJC said:
Yemen is a hotbed of terrorist activity under the Houthis, who had been regularly attacking shipping in the Red Sea using missiles and drones. Makes sense that they would judge any high-velocity object flying towards the shipping lanes as an immediate threat and sought to take it out. I don't think "Oh, might be alien tech, best leave it alone" was the first thought running through their minds.
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Absolutely, my posts are tongue in cheek because I dont believe in an 'alien' (as in not of this earth) threat, I know what they were shooting at would have been another missile, or drone or similar.
 
Odinnii said:
Looks like its made up of some sort of a viscous liquid?
The way the "debris" broke up looks as if it formed bubbles and then kept going as if it was magnatically connected to the main body

Do these cameras not have temperature sensors on them?
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I always thought if they really existed then they would be made out of some type of Liquid Metal. As sci-fi as it sounds, this video makes it make sense.
 
The Cockatrice said:
2025 we have phones zooming in to the moon, with massive night time clarity but UFO videos? Nah, sry, best I can do is 480p blurry shit.
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Not saying one way or another, but this kind of comment just shows you don't know how cameras work. It's easy to get a good shot of something that's mostly stationary, or moving very slowly relative to your position like the moon. It's easier to keep the aperture open on a camera for long to get as much light as possible.

If this is a UFO in the video, chances are it's moving like a bat out of hell, which makes even capturing video of something like that very difficult. It's not staying in one position long enough to get a clear shot, so no shit footage would be poor quality.
 
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Lord Panda said:
I'm assuming it's a hellfire switchblade variant since there was no kaboom?

Also pretty sure it's not a good idea firing shit at ETs.
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You've peaked my autism. Just in case anybody else wants to educate themselves - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-114_Hellfire

"AGM-114R-9X
The Hellfire R-9X is a Hellfire variant with a kinetic warhead with pop-out blades instead of explosives, used against specific human targets. Its lethality is due to 100 lb (45 kg) of dense material with six blades flying at high speed, to crush and cut the targeted person[50]—the R-9X has also been referred to as the "Ninja Missile"[51] and "Flying Ginsu".[50] It is intended to reduce collateral damage when targeting specific people.[52] Deployed in secret in 2017, its existence has been public since 2019. This variant was used in the killing in 2017 of Abu Khayr al-Masri, a member of Al-Qaeda's leadership, and in 2019 of Jamal Ahmad Mohammad Al Badawi, accused mastermind of the 2000 USS Cole bombing.[53][54] The weapon has also been used in Syria,[55] and in Afghanistan against a Taliban commander.[56][57] It was used twice in 2020 against senior al-Qaeda leaders in Syria; in September 2020 US officials estimated that it had been used in combat six times.[58][59][60][61][62]
Hellfire missiles fired by a Reaper drone were used on 31 July 2022 to kill Ayman al-Zawahiri,[63][7] the leader of Al-Qaeda, who had previously been involved in planning the 9/11 and other attacks on US targets. It was reported that the missile hit him on a balcony, causing minimal collateral damage. Reports stress that avoiding other casualties was a priority for the mission, following drone attacks that killed several uninvolved people, attracting much criticism. It is widely thought that the Hellfires were the R-9X variant, but a United States Special Operations Command spokesman declined to comment, while confirming that the R9X was "in US Special Operations Command's munitions inventory".[64][65]
Images of the aftermath of a US attack on a member of Kata'ib Hezbollah (claimed to be Abu Baqir al-Saadi by Hezbollah affiliated reports) suggests an R-9X was used.[66] The nature and announcement of the attack has led Howard Altman to suggest the weapon system is made more widely available to US forces.[66] In December 2024 an R-9X appears to have been used near Idlib.[67]
In late February 2025 the US government made video of an R-9X in action public for the first time; the missile was used by CENTCOM to kill the senior commander of Al-Qaeda affiliate Hurras al-Din in Northwest Syria.[68]"

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Anyway, I was super impressed that there was no detonation upon impact. I was like, where's my warhead bro? Then I immediately thought that something could have disabled the warhead in real-time as the hellfire is tracking the target - which would be super scary. Having said that, that kind of missile [e.g., 9x variant] contacting anything would still fuck it up pretty hardcore. If it really made contact and the thing kept flying..........yikes - We in trouble yo.
 
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Ishma3L said:
You've peaked my autism. Just in case anybody else wants to educate themselves - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-114_Hellfire

"AGM-114R-9X
The Hellfire R-9X is a Hellfire variant with a kinetic warhead with pop-out blades instead of explosives, used against specific human targets. Its lethality is due to 100 lb (45 kg) of dense material with six blades flying at high speed, to crush and cut the targeted person[50]—the R-9X has also been referred to as the "Ninja Missile"[51] and "Flying Ginsu".[50] It is intended to reduce collateral damage when targeting specific people.[52] Deployed in secret in 2017, its existence has been public since 2019. This variant was used in the killing in 2017 of Abu Khayr al-Masri, a member of Al-Qaeda's leadership, and in 2019 of Jamal Ahmad Mohammad Al Badawi, accused mastermind of the 2000 USS Cole bombing.[53][54] The weapon has also been used in Syria,[55] and in Afghanistan against a Taliban commander.[56][57] It was used twice in 2020 against senior al-Qaeda leaders in Syria; in September 2020 US officials estimated that it had been used in combat six times.[58][59][60][61][62]
Hellfire missiles fired by a Reaper drone were used on 31 July 2022 to kill Ayman al-Zawahiri,[63][7] the leader of Al-Qaeda, who had previously been involved in planning the 9/11 and other attacks on US targets. It was reported that the missile hit him on a balcony, causing minimal collateral damage. Reports stress that avoiding other casualties was a priority for the mission, following drone attacks that killed several uninvolved people, attracting much criticism. It is widely thought that the Hellfires were the R-9X variant, but a United States Special Operations Command spokesman declined to comment, while confirming that the R9X was "in US Special Operations Command's munitions inventory".[64][65]
Images of the aftermath of a US attack on a member of Kata'ib Hezbollah (claimed to be Abu Baqir al-Saadi by Hezbollah affiliated reports) suggests an R-9X was used.[66] The nature and announcement of the attack has led Howard Altman to suggest the weapon system is made more widely available to US forces.[66] In December 2024 an R-9X appears to have been used near Idlib.[67]
In late February 2025 the US government made video of an R-9X in action public for the first time; the missile was used by CENTCOM to kill the senior commander of Al-Qaeda affiliate Hurras al-Din in Northwest Syria.[68]"

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Anyway, I was super impressed that there was no detonation upon impact. I was like, where's my warhead bro? Then I immediately thought that something could have disabled the warhead in real-time as the hellfire is tracking the target - which would be super scary. Having said that, that kind of missile contacting anything would still fuck it up pretty hardcore. If it really made contact and the thing kept flying..........yikes - We in trouble yo.
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It looks like it did make contact because you see little blobs trailing the object after the hit
 
Days like these... said:
That balloon was moving awfully fast and you don't see the little blobs trailing the balloon after the hit? I know the idea of aliens is scary.
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Also, as was already stated, the variant of hellfire they used most likely had a kinetic warhead and therefore would not explode anyway.

Edit: If it was an A2A variant of the hellfire it could have utilized a proximity sensor which would make impact noncontributory to actually detonating the payload - it would have blown up when it was close enough - OR it utilized an impact sensor and the warhead impact sensor didn't meet the threshold requirements for detonation (e.g., slamming right through a balloon).

Lot of unknown variables here.
 
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I can't be bothered to watch the whole video, but was this a predator drone firing a hellfire or was there a human with eyes on the target? If so, what did they say they saw?

Otherwise it looks like staticy blob versus staticy blob, WTF is even happening?
 
midnightAI said:
Forget whether this is real or not..... why on earth would they shoot a hellfire missile at a UFO? (whether of earth origin or not)

The only 'scary' part of this video is how potentially violent we are towards a potential (heh) alien object (no, I don't believe in aliens, at least, not ones that would or even could visit us)
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Are you new to the human race? We're the most violent race on the planet.We hate eachother let alone a new race.

Just this week there have been multiple news of murders that would make your blood boil.
 
FeralEcho said:
Are you new to the human race? We're the most violent race on the planet.We hate eachother let alone a new race.

Just this week there have been multiple news of murders that would make your blood boil.
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This isn't really true. Every day a lion wakes up knowing it is gonna (at least try to) run down a gazelle and kill it to eat it. Orcas wake up looking for fish, seals, and other shit to kill. Plenty of insects go out looking for shit to kill and plenty of animals go into a killing frenzy if they are able to do so.

Not to dismiss human's capacity for violence because it is definitely there, but we are one of the few species that can INTELLECTUALLY suppress the instinct to kill/rape/fight even under extreme deprivation/duress. We can CHOOSE to not do these things in ways lesser animals can not.

So the question really is, WHY do we tolerate violence/theft/rape at ANY level? As humans we could, and some do, suppress it almost completely, while other societies practically revel in the chaos and bloodshed.
 
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