Hello Games Announces Light no Fire | The Game Awards 2023
Portugeezer
Member
Honestly looks great, and I believe they've learned their lessons from No Man's Sky launch.
If anything, I'm expecting a great game from them!
If anything, I'm expecting a great game from them!
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The artful mincer
Member
I think it's very unlikely it's launches in a similar state to No Man's Sky. They have enough cash to keep developing until we all die of old age lol.( Which means it could end up like Silksong or winds of winter but that's another problem)No trust day 1, but long term.......this is the team to trust for that support lol
Killjoy-NL Truth. I think they are right to not buy day 1, but I disagree with the idea that it took 8 years. The biggest missing feature that was talked about was Multiplayer, all the other stuff was small and fixed before that release anyway.
So release on August 2016, MP released summer 2018, so roughly 2 years. I have no clue where that person is getting 8 years lol
It was cleaned up within 2 and then the proceed to add a fuck ton a features on top of that, for free...that was never even talked about or promised.
Thats like getting everything in CP2077, trains, working ai with cars, car customization, apartment customization, return to the original RPG features 3rd person swappable, all in 2 fucking years, then cry for several more years as they add base building, multiplayer, space travel, gang wars, all free mind you. Shiiiiiit I'd STFU if they did all that lol
Hello Games should have been transparent about their issues, but the meat of what was being talked about at launch was given and then some within those 2 years, everything else after is a cherry on top and beyond what I'd ever expect any developer to even do post launch.
Last time rightly or wrongly they needed to kick it out the door to secure funds
That's not to say it can't happen again. Afterall it happened to cyberpunk after the witcher 3. If it were to have a troubled launch I think it would be for different reasons.
It's a highly experimental game so some kinks will probably be needed to work out.
It looks good just like every open world rpg reveal does. In reality, you go from point a to b, most likely participate in braindead lore dump conversations, and move around the world killing stuff. So unless the combat is excellent, it's a tough sell. Maybe exploration can sell it, but that's arguably even more difficult to get right.
Holammer
Member
I think this leans closer to 'Open World Survival Crafting' rather than a traditional RPG. Like Minecraft, Ark, Valheim and others.
They're going to make a mint on PC alone.
Majukun
Member
Fell free to consider it childish, just don't complain next time another developer lies to your face and releases an incomplete game, it's all good they can just fix it in one-two years
Majukun
Member
They could have not willingly lie to my face for years and profit from that, but since no time machine exist, no they can't i guess.
Dishonesty should not be incentivized, and I'm kind of baffled that people now think it's not only ok, but they treat you like an hero for it.
Mistakes are to be forgiven, that was no mistake though.
GHG
Member
Yep, add The Forest to that list as well.
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
What did he lie about?
Killjoy-NL
Member
I definitely wouldn't hold a grudge for 8 years over a €40 game.
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DeaconOfTheDank
Member
This was probably the most exciting debut from TGA. Definitely keeping a close eye on the new project from HelloGames.
I'm cautiously optimistic since they already have most of the procedural tech in place after working on NMS.
I'm cautiously optimistic since they already have most of the procedural tech in place after working on NMS.
darrylgorn
Member
Looks great and hopefully not vapidly empty like NMS was on launch.
Brigandier
Member
l think Sean Murray and Hello Games have learned their lesson from NMS launch, I expect this to be really good.
NMS is one of the best redemption stories in recent years, It makes me chuckle when I see people hate on the game and Sean when the turn around is fantastic.
NMS is one of the best redemption stories in recent years, It makes me chuckle when I see people hate on the game and Sean when the turn around is fantastic.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Only suckers that preorder, complain. People that are smart enough to wait and see how a game turns out don't get stuck with incomplete games.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
It reminds me of that old PS2 game Drakan the Ancient Gates, but so much more advanced in scale and tech as to make that game look crude and make me feel very old.
Definitely looks interesting and one to watch.
Definitely looks interesting and one to watch.
Come on baby, light no fire, I'd like to NOT set the world on fire!
BouncyFrag
Member
Mildly hyped.
Buggy Loop
Member
Boralf
Member
I really wonder what's going on with this game. It's either that they showed a trailer way too soon which I hate or MAYBE IT RELEASES SOON LIKE IN AN HOUR SHADOWDROP AAWYEAH. It's weird that absolutely nothing at all has been communicated about this game since the trailer one and a half years ago.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
He is busy thinking up new things to promise and not deliver.
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L*][*N*K
Member
Let them cook it, hopefully they won't over hype it
naguanatak
Member
Living in the past I see
Move on
On topic: after the NMS Release debacle Sean Murray has his own way of doing things..and yeah, that includes radio silence when they hunker down and work on the game(s). Don't expect anything from him. There is a reason for the silence, development can be surprising and rough, some things look good on paper, but don't work out, some bad things happen... Maybe he had other plans but had to change it due to unforeseen circumstances. What I know after almost 10 years of NMS...the end product will be awesome and will be worked on for the foreseeable future... Maybe even free of charge after buying the game.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
Living in the past I see
Move on
On topic: after the NMS Release debacle Sean Murray has his own way of doing things..and yeah, that includes radio silence when they hunker down and work on the game(s). Don't expect anything from him. There is a reason for the silence, development can be surprising and rough, some things look good on paper, but don't work out, some bad things happen... Maybe he had other plans but had to change it due to unforeseen circumstances. What I know after almost 10 years of NMS...the end product will be awesome and will be worked on for the foreseeable future... Maybe even free of charge after buying the game.
Sorry Sean, I was just making a joke. You have done a great deal with No Mans Sky.
Boralf
Member
Yeah but then why show that trailer? Now people have expectations and hype is created. Wouldn't it have been a better option to shadowdrop it? It would be fitting in contrast to No Man's Sky release. It wouldn't surprise me if they will shadowdrop it still though.Living in the past I see
Move on
On topic: after the NMS Release debacle Sean Murray has his own way of doing things..and yeah, that includes radio silence when they hunker down and work on the game(s). Don't expect anything from him. There is a reason for the silence, development can be surprising and rough, some things look good on paper, but don't work out, some bad things happen... Maybe he had other plans but had to change it due to unforeseen circumstances. What I know after almost 10 years of NMS...the end product will be awesome and will be worked on for the foreseeable future... Maybe even free of charge after buying the game.
naguanatak
Member
It's okay, I understand that you are frustrated and projecting onto me... Just let it go, I have done the same. It really helps
naguanatak
Member
Why isn't every game shadow dropped? I'd love that. There are different reasons.
Although in the case of LNF, I get your feeling,it's the same for me. We can hope.
Why they released it? I don't know...to test the waters? Or maybe they thought they were father along than they were, or something happened. I really don't know, I cannot for the life of me understand their decisions for marketing. For NMS I somehow get it after so long... Cryptic emoji tweets before an update...it's fun.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
It wasn't revealed that long ago compared to many other upcoming games
Yerd
Member
I did not get the hype on NMS before release. Maybe it wasn't my type of game then. I bought and played it several years after release and racked up almost 750 hours. So, I did like the game quite a bit, after all. I haven't spent any time since the last few updates. I believe I have had my fill of that game.
LNF has me a bit hyped for it. Probably some of that NMS leftover goodwill. I still won't be pre-ordering anything. I'm not a simpleton.
LNF has me a bit hyped for it. Probably some of that NMS leftover goodwill. I still won't be pre-ordering anything. I'm not a simpleton.
UniformDeliverance
Member
My assumption was investors. Recall Sony ended up signing a deal with them at the launch of No Man's Sky.
Would make sense that the trailer wasn't really for us, more to get attention and money to continue development.
just a guess though.
naguanatak
Member
Afaik there are no investors. Hello Games still makes enough money through selling NMS (it goes on sale every update) to keep the company of roughly 60 people going. Sean Murray is opposed to keep teams or the company at large growing without limits. And I hope that his stance on that hasn't changed since only a small team of passionate developers can release games like that that push boundaries in tech or game design.
They might not be the most skilled compared to other teams (even though to a layman like me watching their gdc presentations I was always at awe) but I don't know of other studios as devoted to their game as Hello Games honestly.
Small team, passion projects that push the envelope, not in terms of graphics or presentation, but in terms of underlying tech and ideas.
But your guess might still be right if they changed how they operate, who knows. But honestly, I hope not... As a truly independent developer can surely achieve their vision better without shareholders or investors breathing down their necks.