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http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1130.htm

Voice of the White House

In recent past issues, we have carried comments from a reporter assigned to the White House press corps. Some of these remarks, most especially one about Bush’s physical and mental problems, drew an enormous number of viewers and hundreds of inquiries, most especially from foreign press entities. The reporter advised us by email that there was rampant fury in the White House and security was becoming very tight. As a result of this, he decided to lay low for a few weeks and see how the wind was blowing. Yesterday, he sent us the following material which we are now posting. Some of it is outrageous in the extreme but to date, no one has proven him wrong. Our source was the first to expose and we were the first to make public, the accusations that the President of the United States was a man that suffered from serious psychological problems. Since our initial publication of what we call the Madness of King George, there has been increasing interest in the subject and herewith, we present additional input from inside the White House.

October 10, 2004: “This time, friends, I have some very important news for all of you. Unlike the usual silly gossip that goes on around the White House, intermingled with loud praying, this is really news. We are about to embark on another war! Yes, it has been decided and carefully planned. Who are we going to war with? Iran. Background here: (I am taking this from a paper which I have to return)

Thesis: Iran hates the United States and Israel. Iran has atomic weapons and missiles (the Shahab, courtesy of North Korean/Russian technicians) It can easily reach Tel Aviv. It can also reach US troop concentrations in Iraq. Israel is scared shitless. Their pressure groups have leaned on the White House, with a great deal of assistance from Cheney and the Neocons. The actual plan is this:

The U.S. has no troops available for an Iranian adventure and the Israelis would rather not lose any warm bodies so…it has been firmly decided that both Israel and the U.S. will launch a surprise attack against 1., Iranian missile sites, 2. Iranian nuclear facilities and 3. the leadership of Iran located in and around Tehran. How will this be done? By aircraft attack using U.S. developed “smart bombs” and the so-called “bunker-buster” bombs designed to destroy underground reinforced concrete facilities .We just sent these to Israel. Because of the political ramifications, the Israelis will conduct the main strikes, supported by U.S. aircraft as needed. The aim will be to wipe out any vestige of nuclear weaponry, its delivery system and all the Iranian leaders capable of starting any attacks on Israel (mostly Tel Aviv…too many fellow Muslims in Jerusalem.) Since it would be a problem for Israeli Air Force units to fly round trip from Israel, the solution will be to launch these attacks from U.S. aircraft carriers located in the Persian Gulf area. As I write, the super carrier USS John F. Kennedy (CV 67) is now in the Persian Gulf along with the so-called Essex Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG) [31st Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) (SOC)] which consists of:: USS Essex (LHD 2) USS Juneau (LPD 10) USS Harpers Ferry (LSD 49) USS Mobile Bay (CG 53USS Hopper (DDG 70) USS Preble (DDG 88) The initial attacks will be an early-morning surprise attack launched to coincide with religious services in Tehran’s Muslim mosques with the idea of catching not only the leading Mullahs inside but a large number of their congregations as well. One attack will concentrate on these religious centers and the other will hit both the underground nuclear facilities and identified (courtesy of U.S. satellite shots) missile launching sites. The U.S. will supply observation and radio surveillance aircraft with radar-jamming capacities operating out of Turkey and Italy. The entire attack is scheduled to last no more than one hour with at least three waves of Israeli aircraft utilized. No warning will be given to the Iranians and no declaration of war. The possible deaths of foreign diplomats in the attacks has been discussed and accepted as part of the price. This attack has the full support of the President who wants it launched before the elections. He can then make a speech to the American people stating that the evil Iranian nuclear weaponry has been destroyed by the Israelis with the full cooperation of his government as part of his heroic war against terrorists. Believe me, that speech has already been written and I have seen a copy of it. The brass here feels that this will have a tremendous impact on the American people, just before the elections. No U.S. ground troops will be used; Bush will stress that this is a joint U.S.-Israeli anti-terrorist project. Part of the speech deals with ongoing Shiite Iranian physical support of their Shiite brethren in Iraq and that by knocking out the Iranian nuclear weaponry, at the same time, they are protecting GIs from ongoing guerrilla warfare. The brass is literally rubbing it’s hands and drooling over what they see as Bush’s Final Victory. I have seen a negative report copy from someone in the Pentagon [who is not going to get promoted] that says if the Iranians get wind of this little game, they might strike first and they might also realize that large numbers of vulnerable American troops are concentrated inside Iraqi cities, prime targets for a nuclear tactical attack. These people are literally insane and I really hope you don’t delete this. Something really has to be done to stop these maniacs before we all die of radiation sickness!”

Europe could be a wasteland by 2009
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Don't get me wrong, Im pretty sure we will be in Iran if Dubya wins this, and a draft would not surprise me at all.. but this source does not in any way sound reliable.

Edit: what age is it that you are clear of being drafted?
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
if you really want out of the draft you could allways break some fairly minor law.. some of the stupidest shit will get you kicked out. Of course, you could allways refuse to report for duty and go to jail, which is what I would probably do. CO's and Dodgers are weak sauce... people who actually are against a war should make a statement.
 
IIRC 25 was the oldest you could be and still be drafted. If my number was called (I'm 26) I'd go, even though I would object to the war.
 

teiresias

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He can then make a speech to the American people stating that the evil Iranian nuclear weaponry has been destroyed by the Israelis with the full cooperation of his government as part of his heroic war against terrorists. Believe me, that speech has already been written and I have seen a copy of it. The brass here feels that this will have a tremendous impact on the American people, just before the elections.

LOL!!!! This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard/read (the entire thing, not just what I quoted). First of all, if this is supposed to happen before the election than they had better get to it. Second, even the neocons aren't supid enough to think something like this would actually get Bush brownie points (though honestly, given how crazily some people support Bush I wouldn't put it past them).
 
DJ Deomon J said:
IIRC 25 was the oldest you could be and still be drafted. If my number was called (I'm 26) I'd go, even though I would object to the war.

There's been talk of raising the draft age and including women in the draft...

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/171522_draft01.html

The proposal, which the agency's acting Director Lewis Brodsky presented to senior Pentagon officials just before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, also seeks to extend the age of draft registration to 34 years old, up from 25.
 

Cool

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GEORGE BUSH: TAKIN' OUT IRAQ, THEN TAKIN' OUT IRAN, AND WE DIDN'T EVEN DO IT IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER!

PREPARE FOR TEH FIGHT OF TEH CENTURY! GEORGE BUSH WORLD TOUR! MAKING EVERY COUNTRY IN TEH MIDDLEEAST A DEMOCRACY ONE NATION AT A TIME!

PREPARE TO BE DRAFTED!

FORGET COLLEGE, JOBS, OR FAMILY! YOU'RE FIGHTIN' FOR DUBYA!
 

AssMan

Banned
So what is tbrnews.org anyway? Some euro trash organization? All these "OMG THE DRAFT IS COMING!" is ridiculous. Bush isn't dumb enough to go to Iran and start a war with them. With Iraq, Bush (supposively) thought Saddam was more of a threat. If congress already turned down a draft proposul than we won't see one.
 

Saturnman

Banned
AssMan said:
So what is tbrnews.org anyway? Some euro trash organization? All these "OMG THE DRAFT IS COMING!" is ridiculous. Bush isn't dumb enough to go to Iran and start a war with them. With Iraq, Bush (supposively) thought Saddam was more of a threat. If congress already turned down a draft proposul than we won't see one.

Bush went to Iraq because it was perceived as an easy target, not because it was more of a threat. Iraq was considered a two-tier country, in other words, worth keeping an eye on, but not an immediate threat.

Countries like North Korea are at the top of the list in terms of intelligence gathering, even if it is hard to have info, because it directly threatens Americans' interests and troops and those of its close allies. NK is also among the worst rogue state in terms of WMD proliferation; That's in large part how Pakistan got its nukes.
 

Overseer

Member
Whatever, this is so dumb, if for some reason I get drafted, I'll just go rob some convenience store or something and get sent to jail.
 

bionic77

Member
If there ever is a draft again, a lot of people are going to suddenly turn gay to avoid it.

I doubt there will be a draft, but then again I doubted we would start a war over a lie (WMD).
 

Otaking

Member
I doubt Bush would have that much power that he could get the draft started up again. If he succeeded, depending on the war they were gonna send me to, I might go. Depends if they were gonna send me on a sneaking mission to infiltrate an Alaskan base taken over by a former-special forces turned terrorist group to rescue the President of a weapons company and disarm the nuklear threat if there is one. But if it wasn't that, then probably not. I'm sure there are places I could go. But they wouldn't want me anyway, I'm on Paxil.
 

tedtropy

$50/hour, but no kissing on the lips and colors must be pre-separated
Don't know that there'd be much point in drafting me, unless of course they were to launch me from a cannon and hope my boney limbs pierce some fer'ners before impact. If that's the case I fuckin' hate George www.com Bush and stuff!
 

atomsk

Party Pooper
hey Otaking, i dont suppose you're from peoria, IL? cause i saw a personalized license plate with that name the other day...
 

Otaking

Member
atomsk said:
hey Otaking, i dont suppose you're from peoria, IL? cause i saw a personalized license plate with that name the other day...
No..Pennsylvania. I'd never get my internet name on my license plate. I prefer the traditional numbers and letters. Still..I wonder what type of person that individual with that license plate is....
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
atomsk said:
hey Otaking, i dont suppose you're from peoria, IL? cause i saw a personalized license plate with that name the other day...


I'm in Peoria all the time. My brother lives there.
 
we don't need no stinkin Draft let them come to us

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DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
Mike Works said:

Well, as many in the past thread about the fired up speech from some representative in the House seem to think, can we really trust anything Bush says at this point?
 
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Lighten Up-Enjoy the Draft!

All humor aside, there's no way to sustain unilateral Bush Doctrine policies without mandatory conscription unless the world stays perfectly calm and there's no ethnic cleansings, invasions of soverign nations, terrorist attacks like Unca Dick keeps scaring people every day with, or rogue nations with WMDs.

The odds of at least one of those things situations coming up during the Bush presidency are very high-indeed, every President since the end of the Cold War has had to deal with some permutations of the above, and they generally required significant troops assests.

Our military is stretched to the breaking point. We've deployed the National Guard overseas and are grabbing people from the Inactive Ready Reserve. We're instituting stop-loss policies to prop up force capability. There will be three optins when faced in the next four years if we go with the Bush doctrine against one of the above events-refuse the draft, and so overextend ourselves to the point of losing everywhere, one is the draft, and the other is massive mercenary usage. Two of those lead to failure, only one (the draft) has a hope of suceeding.

That's the point here-we'll be put in a position where if we want to fight the terrorists or evildoers, we've got to put on the draft. That's how it will be spun, in conjunction with clever tried-and-true Orwellian doublespeak. It will be left unsaid that a multilateral policy and effective diplomacy wins without the draft.

It *is* coming folks. It won't just affect the 18-25 set either. The military will be looking to fill in highly-trained positions with drafted folks with good skillsets-computer programmers , system administrators, and medical technicans/residents especially, look for a special draff just for you.

I'm glad my girlfriend is a Belgian citizen. She might have a exceedingly picky taste for chocolate and beer, but at least I know I've got a plan to win the peace, so to speak. No fucking way am I going to fight for that warmongerin POS installed by our judiciary branch.

You guys DO know the biggest proponents of the draft bill were democrats?

Yes, they were. They were from predominantly poor and minority districts, and there bills were worded as such as to institute a draft that would make the rich and powerful have to give up their sons and daughters as equally as the poor, powerless, and undereducated. It was a symbolic gesture presented to expose the rank hypocrisy of the rich and powerful to send soldiers to die despite having virtually no risk whatsoever to their own children. One doens't need to look past the current circle of GOP leaders and pundits to know that deferential treatment is given to those in power or with wealth.
 
DarthWoo said:
Well, as many in the past thread about the fired up speech from some representative in the House seem to think, can we really trust anything Bush says at this point?
Hello? He IS the president. President's can't just lie and get away with it like you're trying to.
 
Hello? He IS the president. President's can't just lie and get away with it like you're trying to.

This is dripping with sarcasm, but I'll say this anyway-our president could say that he sleeps with and molests five year olds and has sex with his dog, and the media wouldn't call him out on it. In fact, they'd challenge the audacity of those who would dare mention that he does such things, even though he openly admits it.

Our news media is worthless. If there was ever a bipartisan effort that both parties could work for after the election is over, it's unfucking the mass media.
 
Fragamemnon said:
This is dripping with sarcasm, but I'll say this anyway-our president could say that he sleeps with and molests five year olds and has sex with his dog, and the media wouldn't call him out on it. In fact, they'd challenge the audacity of those who would dare mention that he does such things, even though he openly admits it.
Do you have a link to prove that he said this, or are you going to blame not being able to find one on the "terrible mass media who wouldn't report anything that could factually back up your crazy ramblings because they're too busy raping Argentinian orphan babies"?

I thought so.
 
Boogie said:
So I'M trolling because I'm asking the liberals in this thread to back up their neo-dem left wing crazy monkey claims with, oh, i don't know, FACTS?

I didn't know this forum was hosted by CBS.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
What the hell does the media call Bush out on? I mean give me a break.
 
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