Help me pick my next game - CRPGs
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Lucifers Beard
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Pillars of Eternity was really good and so is Divinity OS to be fair. Divinity OS is turn based and Pillars is real time with pause. I preferred Pillars but I might be in the minority. I haven't even played the sequel, should probably change that.
vaibhavpisal
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I couldn't get into either Pillars of Eternity or Divinity 1.
But found POE2 as well as DOS2 as massive upgrades. Would recommend you to try, if it doesn't work, skip to part 2.
Cannot say which one I like better. Haven't finished POE2, but its writing, lore is miles better. DOS2 is way better sandbox with a lot of creative problem solving available.
Both are incredible.
But found POE2 as well as DOS2 as massive upgrades. Would recommend you to try, if it doesn't work, skip to part 2.
Cannot say which one I like better. Haven't finished POE2, but its writing, lore is miles better. DOS2 is way better sandbox with a lot of creative problem solving available.
Both are incredible.
LazyParrot
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If you're going with DOS, you might want to consider starting with 2. The stories aren't connected, so it doesn't really matter which one you start with.
I tried 1 first, didn't like it that much, then assumed that I wouldn't like 2 either. Massive mistake. It's now one of my all-time favorite games.
I suppose the only danger is that 1 might feel like too much of a downgrade after playing 2.
I tried 1 first, didn't like it that much, then assumed that I wouldn't like 2 either. Massive mistake. It's now one of my all-time favorite games.
I suppose the only danger is that 1 might feel like too much of a downgrade after playing 2.
Ziglax
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Divinity is system driven where Pillars is more story driven.
Both game improve both story and systems in their second episode.
Personally I prefer the Pillar series more, though Divinity has it's own strong points.
Alternatives : Tyranny, Wasteland 2/3, Nwn2+addons remaster (in July), Pathfinder games, Rogue Trader, Disco Elysium ...
And the classics if you didn't play them : BG1/2, Fallout 1/2, Icewind Dale 1/2, Planescape Torment (most of the infinity engine games got an enhanced version about 10ish years ago)
Both game improve both story and systems in their second episode.
Personally I prefer the Pillar series more, though Divinity has it's own strong points.
Alternatives : Tyranny, Wasteland 2/3, Nwn2+addons remaster (in July), Pathfinder games, Rogue Trader, Disco Elysium ...
And the classics if you didn't play them : BG1/2, Fallout 1/2, Icewind Dale 1/2, Planescape Torment (most of the infinity engine games got an enhanced version about 10ish years ago)
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dreamstation
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Both are really good. Make sure you get the DLC for Pillars though. It's well worth it.
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Pillars has a better story in the first game, Divinity is more fun. Pillars 2 is a pos while Divinity OS2 is one of the best crpgs, and even better than BG3 in my eyes when it comes to its gameplay. Other than those I highly recond Pathfinder both kingmaker and wrath, with the latter being the most round up/advanced crpg on the market tho the story is super feminist.
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Wildebeest
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Just play whatever. Divinity is more comic and Pillars more serious if that makes a difference. Divinity is also not the first game in the setting as it was already quite an old setting by the time of Original Sin, but that shouldn't make a difference.
MandingoMcThickens
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Can't offer input on Divinity or Pillars but Rogue Trader is real good if you like 40k.
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Ziglax
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Strongly disagree on Pillars 2 being a pos. The branching story is reminiscent of New Vegas, and it has the absolute best RTwP system ever made. My only caveat with it is the ending not being very satisfactory (and we'll never get a Pillars 3). I don't really understand why PoE2 bombed when the first one was a giant kickstarter success.
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I'd recommend either Pathfinder Wrath of the Rightous or WH4K Rogue Trader.
But of the two choices, you might want to go with Divinity just due to the fact there's an upcoming patch for PoE1 that adds in the turned based combat that was in PoE2. Right now the game is real time with pause and plays like Baldur's Gate 1 & 2. The turned based mode is much more tactical and requires rebalancing of every encounter in the game. In real time the AI would slice chaff, but with turned based every action is manual so most are cut down in numbers but the enemy AI uses more abilities making the fights more exciting.
But of the two choices, you might want to go with Divinity just due to the fact there's an upcoming patch for PoE1 that adds in the turned based combat that was in PoE2. Right now the game is real time with pause and plays like Baldur's Gate 1 & 2. The turned based mode is much more tactical and requires rebalancing of every encounter in the game. In real time the AI would slice chaff, but with turned based every action is manual so most are cut down in numbers but the enemy AI uses more abilities making the fights more exciting.
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DOS2 is more fleshed out in terms of the world (though DOS1 can hardly be criticized for lacking detailed, interactive environments). I preferred the combat in DOS1 over 2. The armor system in 2 I felt, fell flat, and placed a huge emphasis on elemental pairings which limited how creative I could get. That said, the writing is much worse in 1. Dialog is super Reddity if that makes any sense. The problem persists in 2 but is toned down quite a bit.
For me, it's DOS1, but both are outstanding games.
For me, it's DOS1, but both are outstanding games.
StereoVsn
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I liked DOS1, but yeah, DOS2 was definitely a better game and it's worth just going for it.
And I found PoE2 a much, much better game vs PoE1 as the first one just dragged on too much. IMO, you can just watch story recap on YouTube and go for PoE2.
That said, I would recommend either BG3 or Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous. Both are simply outstanding titles of the genre. Not that PoE2 or DOS2 aren't great, they absolutely are, but BG3 and WotR just kick it up a notch beyond that.
Edit: Rogue Trader is amazing but I "assumed" that OP wanted Sword/Sorcery type of game. Same for Wasteland 3. I still liked WotR a bit more vs Rogue Trader but that was also outstanding.
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StereoVsn
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You really should play PoE2, it was very good. And a lot less boring vs PoE1 (IMO and all). And of course DOS2 was also much better vs first game.
vaibhavpisal
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Cool, need to play WOTR. Its ways off though, need to play KCD 2, Clair Obscure, WH40k: RT before that, that I already have installed.
Personal opinion and all, I do prefer DOS2 slightly over BG3 due to more open ended rule set. I think BG3 offers less abilities/ options cause it wants to stick to D&D, newer version I found to be a bit casual in comparison to old ones. But both great games either ways.
StereoVsn
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I agree that BG3 is limited by modern D&D ruleset unfortunately. However, it just has such a breadth of possibilities to approach quests or a wild unusual utilization of spells and abilities it has that it's basically a pinnacle if you want reactive gameplay.
If you want a variety of builds, can't beat WotR. The way they adopted Pathfinder alongside Mythical paths is just amazing.
vaibhavpisal
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True, I think its level design/ maps was a highlight. Also a ton of handcrafted situations with a ton of variables at play, its impressive.
Sounds great. Not sure if am upto it, experimentation with builds and all in party of six, sure sounds exciting. Lol.
I don't mind, actually. I picked Pillars and DOS because they seem 'easier' than Pathfinder and Rogue Trader and I think I prefer that right now.
I played BG3 and Wasteland 3.
StereoVsn
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WotR on "Normal" isn't that difficult. But yeah, either that or Rogue Trader are (IMO of course) better games vs DOS2 or PoE2.
That said going with DOS2 or PoE2 is a great choice either way.