BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Holy shit. I can't believe Ubisoft is actually doing something with Might and Magic. We are so back.
OH MY GOD. Please be good. Please... holy shit.
Edit: And Early Access might actually be a wise decision in this case since the last two HoMM games were just... shit.
I'm praying this turns out good. The trailer looks promising and looks like it's pretty far along too.
This is the devs only other game. Never heard of it but it has good reviews.
I'm praying this turns out good. The trailer looks promising and looks like it's pretty far along too.
This is the devs only other game. Never heard of it but it has good reviews.
I just saw that it's not an internal Ubisoft team that's doing this. I am starting to get excited for real.Iratus was pretty solid, actually.
Would be very surprised to see a competent game from Ubi, but if that's who's helming it... there's a chance.
That's Heroes of Might & Magic 5, kinda.I wish someone would make a remake of HOMM3 in the style of Diablo 2 Ressurected.
Well throw Might & Magic: Heroes 5.5 mod on top of it and it beats any HOMM game ever!!That's Heroes of Might & Magic 5, kinda.
+1OH MY GOD. Please be good. Please... holy shit.
well.... HoMM3 is still the GOAT for me. But I see where you're coming from.Well throw Might & Magic: Heroes 5.5 mod on top of it and it beats any HOMM game ever!!
Holy shit. I can't believe Ubisoft is actually doing something with Might and Magic. We are so back.
Not with that artstyle it doesn't.Well throw Might & Magic: Heroes 5.5 mod on top of it and it beats any HOMM game ever!!
Is in German. But if there is any interest, I can TL;DR the things said in the video, if there is anything new that is not in the official press release.
Hear hear! I exclusively play random maps in HoMM3.Play solo with a new campaign, multiple single maps and limitless randomly generated scenarios, or engage in battle of wits and magic with other players — rivals or allies — in multiplayer mode. There is also an option to build your own story with the map editor tool, which you may make available to all the players around the world or keep to yourself.
Random maps. Thank god. When I played HOMM3 I only played random maps. Never touched the SP campaign once. lol
I think it's great, what sells it for me is the small details like the lovingly rendered resources on the world map, it triggers so much nostalgia my brain is marinating in dopamine after watching the video Hudo linked. Oh yeah! You pick all that Mercury & Crystal baby!Happy you all are happy but this didn't do it for me. The art style is just too "modern" and safe for my tastes. It does look closer to the classics gameplay wise thankfully, but I still have those.
Is in German. But if there is any interest, I can TL;DR the things said in the video, if there is anything new that is not in the official press release.
Nevermind, then. You guys can read that shit yourselves, lmao.There are English subtitles to pick if you want.
Yeah, some of those designs are a bit too Warcraft for my taste. Definetly closer to Heroes V than Heroes III.Watching the vid on a bigger view, the graphics arent as good as I thought. It animates well but has a more cartoonish look to it vs HOMM3. But that's ok. I get it. Modern day gaming tries hard to appease the masses and doing grittier art is a turnoff for many.
I'd argue that HOMM4 is the second best.(who were the ones who made HOMM5, the SECOND best game in the series).
Care to expand on Songs? I was thinking of getting it when it's on deal. I'm not a fan of that retro pixel art, but the gameplay videos look HOMM3-ish.I really want what this game is promising. I don't know if it delivers but getting that homm3 feeling back would be awesome. I tried playing this game "songs of conquest" earlier this year and it just didn't do it for me.
I was in the mood to bitch that no one on this forum even opened a thread about this, only to do a quick search and learn that I just missed it, somehow.
Oh, and I don't want to celebrate before time, but this actually looks... half decent at very least? It may even turn out to be actually good.
Apparently the developers are russians (people who take HOMM3 very seriously, as Ssseth will testify) and I've heard the studio has a lot of former Nival people (who were the ones who made HOMM5, the SECOND best game in the series).
Care to expand on Songs? I was thinking of getting it when it's on deal. I'm not a fan of that retro pixel art, but the gameplay videos look HOMM3-ish.
But if you got tips why Songs isn't good, please tell. For me, I loved HOMM3 graphics, gameplay, and random map generator.
Yeah I'll share my take. Just info on me, I really liked heroes2 and loved heroes3, but even though I played all subsequent heroes games I never really liked any of them that much, it was like 3 had this perfect feeling and style. I can point out many legitimate flaws and terrible experiences in these games but sometimes them just doing things in a different way from heroes3 puts me off which may also be the case here. Also I only got as far as partway through the 3rd campaign out of 4 in songs of conquest before dropping it so I'm not an expert on this game.
Regarding the pixel art, I like pixel art, but this pixel art is just okay. It's at its best when exploring the overworld which I think does give a kind of heroes feel. In fact, the exploring and finding mines and treasures part is probably the part of the game that most successfully satisfies heroes3 nostalgia. It doesn't look as good in combat and there is no "building your cool base" screen. You do build a base but you do it with little pixel buildings on the overworld map. So one of the things I love about heroes3, that screen where you start with a tiny hut and gradually build this huge awesome base that is so satisfying to sit back and look at, is gone. Kinda derailing a bit here but someone made this awesome modern interpretation of the castle base from heroes3, check it out:
Anyway regarding gameplay, units can get promoted and then get some kind of ability they can use like in heroes3, so that's good. But in general there's a lot of nerfs and limitations to keep things "balanced" in combat. Like you have a limit cap to how many of each unit can be in your army and it's not crazy high. So fun situations from heroes3 where you have zounds of a weak unit like skeletons and they actually become a threat don't happen. This is really noticeable with spells, there were a lot of really fun really powerful spells in Heroes3, and I guess they were too OP so later games nerfed spells to make things more balanced and that's certainly the case here. In my somewhat limited playtime, spells don't feel impactful or satisfying to use. As an example, around the time I dropped the game I was on a map where I beat an opponent and then he just keeps respawning at his base with a small army and runs around tagging my mines. With cool heroes3 spells like flight and dimension door I would have easily trapped them but in this game I had to slowly bring all my heroes that were out exploring to his region to surround and smother him.
Storywise, I also noticed some very "modern audience" things like the hero of the first campaign is a woman who thinks, talks and acts exactly like a man with no feminine traits whatsoever, and everytime you meet a blacksmith they are always a woman, that notoriously female profession. It's not like the game has sweetbaby game levels of politics or anything, the subversive silliness is relatively minor, but if you are over modern audience cringe you should approach with caution. When you beat a campaign there's a cutscene where they sing a song about what you did, hence the name of the game. That might sound appealing to some people but I personally didn't care about the story or world.
So yeah, that's my take. I'm not even saying it's a bad game for people who like the genre, but as someone who looked at songs of conquest and thought "wow looks like heroes3" it's a pale imitation.
hopefully this olden era game will deliver, keeping an eye on itGreat. Thanks for the write up. I'll pass on it. It's at $41 CDN game that goes on sale at 50% maxed out. So $20 or so. GOG has it now at $27. Forget it. Maybe if it gets bombed down -75% at $10 or less I'll look into it.