Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
It's the old adage of waveclear while still being good otherwise being OP
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Heroes of the Storm |OT3| Chromiehounds
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To me his passive is ridic and he's too tanky and his sustain is too high, these are all fixable things
Kill the lvl 13 stun talent though that shit is stupid as fuck, stuns are supposed to be something you use to stop a character like this
There are always overpowered heroes tho so it doesnt really bother me
Kill the lvl 13 stun talent though that shit is stupid as fuck, stuns are supposed to be something you use to stop a character like this
There are always overpowered heroes tho so it doesnt really bother me
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
So far bloodlust proves to be absurdly long and frustrating. This last one I struggled with a team (that had a Tychus that abandoned) sooooo far into the game and we finally got bottom open and killed 3 of them which allowed me to grab dragon but then 3 of my team sits at our mid fort and one is bot by our fort while I'm running in circles from 5 enemies waiting for them to show up forward bot and they never do? Idiots apparently think dragon can kill the core 5v1. Then of course as I'm running back in for my life they choose to all stagger in so we stagger die and lose the core. This shit is why I play AI.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Get fucked Buechters
tbh i kinda feel like he can get picked up w/o tyrael protection too, tho of course he excels w/ protection
nvt running that hero league comp makes me a little worried
fucking beautiful collapse by nvt
cattle w/ the godlike bodyblock, very bad of nvt to go for a camp when diablo just backed
nvt running that hero league comp makes me a little worried
fucking beautiful collapse by nvt
cattle w/ the godlike bodyblock, very bad of nvt to go for a camp when diablo just backed
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Thrall + Rag seems a bit much.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I've missed Greymane. There's just something beautiful with how he deletes heroes.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Does Valeera do well in the posturing before going ham? That's the most enjoyable part about watching Greymane. He's just on the edges of the fight. Throwing cocktails and getting off some Auto Attacks and then BAM you dead.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Triple melee was asking for it a bit.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
You forgot the twist, Brian was the Tassadar!
true
also I havent played her, though even just on paper i cant see her doing much at all
tass is good against her because shes like zera, a squishy single target burst character, and that's what he's best against
im wondering about nvt zarya, ts instabanned it last game too
such a weird comp from nvt, this is the best map to not have waveclear but I've never seen anything like this before
and now tracer into varian from ts, tho more burst dmg into nvt's comp is pretty good
also I havent played her, though even just on paper i cant see her doing much at all
tass is good against her because shes like zera, a squishy single target burst character, and that's what he's best against
im wondering about nvt zarya, ts instabanned it last game too
such a weird comp from nvt, this is the best map to not have waveclear but I've never seen anything like this before
and now tracer into varian from ts, tho more burst dmg into nvt's comp is pretty good
You don't see her doing much at all? Haven't you watched any of the streams with her? Her burst and lockdown is pretty insane. She's quite mobile compared to what you'd expect and her HP is the 3rd highest among melee assassins. It's pretty easy to get in and out with her, actually, in comparison to what one would expect.
well i mean it's easy to think it out
like one comparison i see often is zeratul vs. valeera and how valeera cant hold a candle in terms of safety and doesnt bring anything like vp to the table. what valeera is good at is long duration ccs, but she's very bad at getting in on anyone paying attention, zeratul's dmg is free w/ wormhole.
pro wise it was cattle, srey was unsure on her, uhh i forget...kaeyoh but i dont know if he counts as a pro anymore
i mean obviously what they say isnt gospel
like i wanna reiterate that tass is in every game and he poops on valeera, i have 0 experience w/ her in a non-tass environment
fury playing out of his mind
Oh one more thing to mention about valeera, shes bugged on ptr where her actives (dunno what they are called) have like no cd vs. the 30 secs or 60 secs or whatever they are supposed to be, i dunno if any of the opinions from known ppl have been affected by this
like one comparison i see often is zeratul vs. valeera and how valeera cant hold a candle in terms of safety and doesnt bring anything like vp to the table. what valeera is good at is long duration ccs, but she's very bad at getting in on anyone paying attention, zeratul's dmg is free w/ wormhole.
pro wise it was cattle, srey was unsure on her, uhh i forget...kaeyoh but i dont know if he counts as a pro anymore
i mean obviously what they say isnt gospel
like i wanna reiterate that tass is in every game and he poops on valeera, i have 0 experience w/ her in a non-tass environment
fury playing out of his mind
Oh one more thing to mention about valeera, shes bugged on ptr where her actives (dunno what they are called) have like no cd vs. the 30 secs or 60 secs or whatever they are supposed to be, i dunno if any of the opinions from known ppl have been affected by this
When I watched Kaeyoh spamming her the other night he was gushing too. No clue on cattle or srey, not sure where you watched them or saw what they said.
And again I reiterate, 3rd most HP. She's quite a bit healthier than you're thinking and escaping is no harder than it is with blink.
EDIT: The real variation I saw among pros and streamers was who was using her trait to engage and who was using it as an escape. The CD is low enough that if you play smart you can do both, at least on our level. I'm pretty sure she's gonna be a pubstomper for regular players even if her winrate isn't out of line. Whether she's as good as they claimed on THH for pros is up in the air.
And again I reiterate, 3rd most HP. She's quite a bit healthier than you're thinking and escaping is no harder than it is with blink.
EDIT: The real variation I saw among pros and streamers was who was using her trait to engage and who was using it as an escape. The CD is low enough that if you play smart you can do both, at least on our level. I'm pretty sure she's gonna be a pubstomper for regular players even if her winrate isn't out of line. Whether she's as good as they claimed on THH for pros is up in the air.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
And there will be two more weeks of LNY celebration after that to include Chen and probably Jade Dragon Kharazim.
WonderRade
Member
first not 3-0 of the day 
naventic confirmed best loser?
naventic confirmed best loser?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
as if Kenma is that collected. It's prob more like
"Hey Kenma you gotta work on your positioning"
"Oh yeah I think we should hold a vote. Hey brother me or him? Best support NA suck it dread."
"Hey Kenma you gotta work on your positioning"
"Oh yeah I think we should hold a vote. Hey brother me or him? Best support NA suck it dread."
that's why I'm not writing a book
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Don't pick uther in 2017. Even Blizz basically said, it's fine for Uther to suck.
Naventic did the very same thing a year ago against C9 getting back from a 2-0 is what really put them on the map and sealed the deal on Mac.
Naventic did the very same thing a year ago against C9 getting back from a 2-0 is what really put them on the map and sealed the deal on Mac.
The game's better when HOT healers are viable than when they're not.
Plus they want to rework him into a place where he can psuedo-tank anyway.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I don't care for place #1 as long as GFE beats NVT.
HOTS being in "Tier 2" of E-Sports was a very pleasant surprise on that ranking chart. (Also T2: Overwatch)
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
getting both rexxar and medic on braxis seems wrong
don't forget hammer, she's ridic on this map
i am really surprised they arent just jumping hammer, she's worth several cds, cauthon randomly picked strafe though
oh what am i saying, medic can cleanse and then zuna can w out of entomb
wish i could get fantasy points for tomster saving kenma there
i am really surprised they arent just jumping hammer, she's worth several cds, cauthon randomly picked strafe though
oh what am i saying, medic can cleanse and then zuna can w out of entomb
wish i could get fantasy points for tomster saving kenma there