Hmm....manga should be in color...

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Looking at the Street Fighter comic, I can see why I just can't get into manga. It's just so bleh. The story in SF is nothing special but everything just looks so nice that you can't help to read it :D Why exactly is manga usually in black and white? Cost?
 
I guess but I'd pay extra for the color :p I'd have read the Berserk manga all through by now if it was in color :D
 
Color's nice and all, but if you're refusing to read comics because they're in black and white you're depriving yourself of some damn fine reading. Sheesh.

FnordChan
 
Cloudy said:
Not that I'm refusing. I just can't get into b&w :(
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No offense, but I don't get the idea that you're trying real hard. Tell you what, list some color comics you like and we'll suggest some black and white comics (manga or otherwise) that you might enjoy. Go sit down and your local Borders or Barnes and Noble or whatnot and give 'em a shot. I'm pretty sure you'll get over the whole color thing in short order.

FnordChan
 
I admit that the color panels in Vagabond are pretty drool-worthy (a full book with that much detail, in color, would be sumptious), but I dont think b+w detracts from the overall ability to get drawn into a story personally.
 
Well, Street Fighter is the first non-manga comic I've tried since I was like 10 (Tintin, Asterix etc. rocked me back then). I've tried to read Berserk, Kare Kano, Saikano and Love Hina (animes I actually have on dvd and like A LOT) but it's just bleh. Maybe because I have the anime option? :p
 
B&W rules, it forces the artist to be way more detailed with the lines to create realistic lighting and shadow on the characters, adding depth, unlike color which can simply have a shade for that, but its meh..

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Cloudy said:
Well, Street Fighter is the first non-manga comic I've tried since I was like 10 (Tintin, Asterix etc. rocked me back then). I've tried to read Berserk, Kare Kano, Saikano and Love Hina (animes I actually have on dvd and like A LOT) but it's just bleh. Maybe because I have the anime option? :p
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The Berserk manga is so much better than the anime and on top of that is the fact that the anime series stopoped after the great eclipse.
You really shoulkd read the Berserk manga.
 
Cloudy said:
Well, Street Fighter is the first non-manga comic I've tried since I was like 10 (Tintin, Asterix etc. rocked me back then). I've tried to read Berserk, Kare Kano, Saikano and Love Hina (animes I actually have on dvd and like A LOT) but it's just bleh. Maybe because I have the anime option? :p
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Did, if you watched the His and Hers anime all the way through, you're only seeing like the first 8 volumes of the manga. Theres going to be 18 volumes, so that's a good chunk of the story that you're missing... in the anime you never see the play unfold, the whole thing of Tsubasa and her brother, Tonami and Sakura, the upcoming arc with Arima, etc etc.

I don't know about the other ones, but I know the way H+H anime ended was pretty... well, I wanted to see the rest.
 
Yah, that's why I'm gonna read it someday but I was surprised at how easy it was to keep reading SF (which has a passable plot at best) compared to mangas of animes I liked a lot . I just really liked the artstyle and colors :lol
 
I like it when artists use watercolor or brush markers to color with (as that is my principle art style.) I don't like it though when US colorers think they're Liquid! and feel the need to make everything shiny and slick looking. Gets old.
 
I happen to think color can ruin comic book artwork. I recall the original danger girl issue had a huge design document included filled with black and white character sketches which I loved looking at way more then the actualy color images. With manga, the way the storylines are presented I'd much rather have 1 20 page comic a week with no color then 1 30 page colored book every month. American comics try to get more stuff into there monthly installments so getting one story a month works.
 
Color looks better if you get some decent guy doing it. I'm sick of the way the colors are done these days in mainstream comics. Gradients, airbrush and Filters are way over used. Give me good old fashioned watercolors. Also with B & W you can see the ink lines clearly, and im a big fan of Pen & ink. One good example is AKira and Blueberry comics, both lost a lot when they were colored in.
 
the problem with black and white is when there is intense action going on in the manga; it is sometimes hard to make out what is going on. (example: Naruto)
 
Manga rocks but I always go for anime first. Right now the manga I'm reading are all just for me to get more of the story then the anime: naruto, GantZ, kenshin too since people say 3rd season skips lots of manga. I have a feeling when I finish berserk I might get hooked on the manga too. Hajime no Ippo is also on my list. I was going to read Monster but since the anime is going great I'll stick with that. Especially since it'll cover most of the manga with 78 episodes. :)

The only manga series I read without watching its anime adaptation first is Akira. I'll probably get into Vagabound and a few other mangas later. Honestly I just can't decide sometimes. For some manga there is already an anime, for others an anime has been announced. I Know for sure I can't read a manga I've seen in the anime. I skipped the first 100 naruto chapters because of that. However, reading the naruto manga kind of spoiled the anime too... and I prefer the latter in Naruto's case. >__<


bjork said:
if you watched the His and Hers anime all the way through, you're only seeing like the first 8 volumes of the manga. Theres going to be 18 volumes, so that's a good chunk of the story that you're missing...
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AH! I have the boxset and I'll be watching it shortly. If I knew there are 10 more manga volumes for the whole story I would've skipped buying it. Come to think of it I've also been waiting for the Fruits Basket manga to reach the end of the anime.. yet I completely forgot. The anime really felt "complete" and hopefully karo kano will too.
 
Chrono said:
The anime really felt "complete" and hopefully karo kano will too.
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Nope. Kare Kano stops so cold you'd think it's a cancellation. Gainax and the manga-ka didn't see eye to eye on how the story should be told, so things sort of got messy.
 
I'm a huge fan of B&W comics, but recently i purchased the Fist of the North Star masterpeice edition (big, full color art), the difference it makes is astounding.
 
B&W art is great in any comic. American, Japanese, European, whatever. I also like some of the pencils to color art (skipping inks).
 
FnordChan said:
Color's nice and all, but if you're refusing to read comics because they're in black and white you're depriving yourself of some damn fine reading. Sheesh.

FnordChan
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Well said. It's so sad that so many people act in such a manner.
 
Ever notice how the first page of some manga chapters look a little faded compared to the rest of the pages?

That's because many manga books come with a color first page, then it reverts to B&W. Many of our US reprints don't bother with the color page and just scan it an print two tone like the rest of the pages.
 
Flynn said:
Ever notice how the first page of some manga chapters look a little faded compared to the rest of the pages?

That's because many manga books come with a color first page, then it reverts to B&W. Many of our US reprints don't bother with the color page and just scan it an print two tone like the rest of the pages.
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.. With notable exceptions like Dark Horse's Akira and GitS.
 
Flynn said:
Ever notice how the first page of some manga chapters look a little faded compared to the rest of the pages?

That's because many manga books come with a color first page, then it reverts to B&W. Many of our US reprints don't bother with the color page and just scan it an print two tone like the rest of the pages.
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There's a bit more to it than that. Many of the regular manga magazines (Shounen Jump and whatnot) will often have a few color pages thrown in at the beginning of a story. However, when the manga are collected into individual volumes, the color pages are then put into black and white. The English editions of manga that do this are just working from the Japanese collections. There are some exceptions, but generally, if you're not reading a manga series as it's being serialised, you're reading it in black and white. And, not all manga are published in magazines with the color inserts.

Jonny said:
the problem with black and white is when there is intense action going on in the manga; it is sometimes hard to make out what is going on. (example: Naruto)
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That's not an inherant fault of black and white. That's bad art (example: Naruto).

Cloudy, I'll be back later with those recommendations I promised earlier in the thread.

FnordChan
 
AfroLuffy said:
God, as much as I loved the novel, there's no excuse not to pick that up. What volume is vagabond up to?
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13, I believe... though 14 may have come out since I last visited the comic store (many months ago).
 
Volume 14 came out a few weeks ago; 15 should be available soon.
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wow, that's a quick release cycle. Now if only Mr. Samura would speed things up...i've been collecting blade for years and years and years....
 
One of my favorite comics, The Walking Dead, is completely black and white. I wouldn't have it any other way. Black and white itself results in a style that adding color would take away from. It's hard to explain, but I don't think it would have the same impact in color.

Either way, I don't base comic purchases on that assuming they're still pleasant to look at.
 
JackFrost2012 said:
FACT: The best manga ever is Naoki Urasawa's 20th Century Boys.
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20th Century Boys is AMAZING... dying to read the 16th volume. Monster + 20CB = Urasawa is a champ.

But seriously, Beck is the best manga ever. Salivating over it and Yakitate!! Japan having animes premiere in October.
 
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The first time I saw a manga, B&W looked weird. Didnt take long to start liking it usually more than colour.

B&W is the color of imagination
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Exactly. Imagination can do a much better work than the the average color quality. Shirow does a fine job with color thought.
 
I prefer color but I bought 11 volumes of "His and Her Circumstances" as a bundle on Ebay and so far it's awesome. After volume 1, I still think the anime is better though :p
 
I prefer a proffessional coloring job to black and white. If you're coloring is mediocre though and dumbs great black and white down to mediocre, I'd take black and white. Neither should be a neccessity, you go with your skill. I notice a lot of comic books got shitty shitty coloring. It's like a formula that 60% of comic books have for their coloring. It's just not attractive. Thats why its so refreshing if I ever find a style I ever like. Sometimes black and white shouldnt be touched but other times it would be nothing without coloring. Like Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns, The coloring made that whole novel. I'd say Berserk would be cool with a very realistic painter/colorist like an Alex Ross but he would have to keep that dark style and sketchiness. Overall though, its not worth the risk because it looks fantastic
 
Picking up most of my One Piece volumes for under a dollar each really makes me appreciate it from a price standpoint.
 
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