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[FreedomOfSpeech]

Bullet impact is still: air pumped through a tube pushing dirt straight in the air.
Bottles are still sugar completely disintegrating into fine dust when shattering.

Come on, man! This shit has not improved since idunno the 1950s.

 

[Calcium]

Sorry, Hollywood is focused on diversity right now. They can't do two things at once.

 

[teezzy]

I want more tits in movies

Remember tits? Tits on the big screen?!

 

[FreedomOfSpeech]

I want more tits in movies

Remember tits? Tits on the big screen?!

I remember, Mama.

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[GreyHorace]

Sorry, Hollywood is focused on diversity right now. They can't do two things at once.

Lol. True, very true. But with the business imploding due to Covid-19 I think the woke wave is coming to an end soon. Hopefully these studios and actors will realize their livelihood is more important than any virtue signaling bullshit.

But back on topic, I think we're at a point where visual effects can achieve whatever is in the director's imagination. The problem I think is how to hide the puppeteer's strings from the audience so to speak. A lot of times people can tell when a CGI visual effect is onscreen. But if you use CGI and they don't notice? Then that's when I think visual effects really shine. Like the Winklevoss twins in The Social Network:



I didn't realize until later that they were both played by Arnie Hammer.

 

[kunonabi]

Somehow visual effects and screenwriting have both regressed when it comes to general consistency. You still great examples when somebody really gives a damn but the level of quality on average is just in the toilet these days.

 

[GreyHorace]

Somehow visual effects and screenwriting have both regressed when it comes to general consistency. You still great examples when somebody really gives a damn but the level of quality on average is just in the toilet these days.

At times the visual effects are usually a crutch for weak storytelling.

 

[jason10mm]

While it isn't as bad as it was in the mid to late 90's (almost no CGI heavy film survived the test of time in that era) film makers are FAR too reliant on CGI and "fix it in post" shenanigans these days. Effects houses are too rushed, there is a definite "good enough" attitude, and so many films are minimizing pre-production and on set filming with the expensive actors to the point where the DAMNED SCRIPT ISN'T EVEN DONE and extensive re-shoots are becoming the norm. So CGI is being put up front too much and has to carry the load. Throw in hack directors who don't know how to shoot a normal scene, much less direct a CGI effect in a way that makes it still look 'real', and you get rushed films that would fail from day 1 regardless. Look at how Gareth Edwards makes something big look and feel "big" versus so many others where the big thing looks fake because of how it is framed, lit, and the environment it is in.

We SHOULD be in an era of AMAZING practical stunts and INCREDIBLE prosthetics where CGI is used to remove stunt wires and landing pads, extend prop weapons for more realistic fights, replace the faces of stuntmen with the actors so we get the perfect combo of great stuntwork without the need to hide the face, and hide the edges of prosthetics so they look great AND feel real.

Instead the studios are too cheap to do all that practical legwork and they just rush principle filming and do everything in post so half the movie is just a bad CGI cartoon.

 

[Jethalal]

Somehow visual effects and screenwriting have both regressed when it comes to general consistency. You still great examples when somebody really gives a damn but the level of quality on average is just in the toilet these days.

Lot of it is due to crunch and lack of time. Avengers: Infinity War had plenty of time for vfx and you won't find people complaining about Thanos CGI but Black Panther had to be done in a hurry as the release was impending and resources were being spent on Infinity War VFX so the quality was not upto par.

 

[Halo is Back]

Odd thing to complain about in the age of visual effects. Practical effects will always be more impressive to me and some of the older movies still impress me to this day with what they could accomplish.

 

[Virt McPolygon]

Sorry, OP but movies and shows need less CG bullet impacts/blood and more exploding squibs.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

DC needs to get its shit together. Almost all of their effects look like dogshit.

 

[Dr_Salt]

Somehow visual effects and screenwriting have both regressed when it comes to general consistency. You still great examples when somebody really gives a damn but the level of quality on average is just in the toilet these days.

Hollywood is creatively bankrupt. No one want to risk doing anything new anymore for the risk of bombing.
Now we get endless sequels, superhero movie #196 and remakes no one asked for.

 

[Karma Jawa]

Speaking of special effects, if anyone wants to see an anomaly of a movie they should check out Higher Power.

Made on a budget of $500k and the acting quality reflects this, but it's also a tour de force of special effects.

Turns out this was a pet project by some Hollywood CGI guy who had been developing the FX for close to a decade in his spare time.

 

[Stouffers]

I want more tits in movies

Remember tits? Tits on the big screen?!

Tits were just an old tube sock full of nickels, a pepperoni slice and a red mentos.

 

[cryptoadam]

Not much can be done.

We are so used to computer graphics now that we have the ability to spot them and know when something is off.

If you grew up in the 80s/90s the best CG/FX you saw was arcade games or FMV Resident evil cutscense or some shit. So of course when you saw a hollywood movie you were blown away.

Now our phones can put out graphics that look as good as movies. We have seen a zillion CGI fest movies. Nothing impresses us, and nothing gets past us.

Just watched Avengers the other day, made a thread about the Hulk looking really bad. But most of the movie has that Video game feel to it, with some parts feeling exactly like Squares Avengers game.

We have past the point where special effects are special. Everything has been done, we are blasted with computer graphics every where we go so our brains are wired to see it now.

 

[sol_bad]

I'm fine with CGI in movies today and I can understand why a studio would chose to use it.

Just using Wonder Woman 1 as an example, there is a shot of her jumping out of the trench and you can tell she is CGI and it doesn't look the best. It's literally 1 second of footage, who wants to set up a wire rig for 1 second of footage? It would probably take half a day to set up.

I think CGI gun blood impacts look better now than quibs of the old days. Practical quibs look terrible.

IMO practical stuff can be just as bad. As much as I love The Thing and as much talent went into the practical side of things, it looks very and cheesy by todays standards. Same with matte drawings, just as bad and fake looking as green screen.

Aliens is one of my favourite films ever but the Xenomorphs are extremely limited in what they can do and rarely look as agile as they should be.

Hollywood is creatively bankrupt. No one want to risk doing anything new anymore for the risk of bombing.
Now we get endless sequels, superhero movie #196 and remakes no one asked for.

It's the audiences own fault. It's not about being creatively bankrupt, it's about losing money on new projects. There are many examples of failed big budget productions. Why would studios continue risking millions of dollars if there was a chance they wouldn't make their money back?

 

[Dr_Salt]

It's the audiences own fault. It's not about being creatively bankrupt, it's about losing money on new projects. There are many examples of failed big budget productions. Why would studios continue risking millions of dollars if there was a chance they wouldn't make their money back?

I mean yea its a business after all that is something we all understand but that is just one of the main cause why Hollywood is creatively bankrupt.

 

[Futaleufu]

It's amazing that in WW84 the actors in the fight scene look like rubber, just like Harry Potter playing that broom game 20 years ago.

 

[Goro Majima]

I thought maybe the OP watched Wonder Woman 84 because that CGI looked like it was from the 00s.

Not sure if it was the budget or the pandemic that made a lot of that look awful.

 

[CertifiedKiwi]

Age of streaming...I think this to some extend has affected their film budgets or creativity or both.

 

[Stouffers]

Age of streaming...I think this to some extend has affected their film budgets or creativity or both.

OR the big screen hides a lot of CG blemishes.

 

[sol_bad]

I mean yea its a business after all that is something we all understand but that is just one of the main cause why Hollywood is creatively bankrupt.

Realistically though, is Hollywood really creatively bankrupt?


2015
The Revenant, Bridge of Spies, Joy, The End of the Tour, The Gift, It Follows, Mad Max: Fury Road, Creed, Room, Inside Out, Spotlight, Sicario, The Martian, Straight Outta Compton, Steve Jobs, Kingsman, Trainwreck, Crimson Peak, Ted 2.

2016
The Handmaiden, Don't Breathe, Hush, The Nice Guys, Arrival, The Lobster, The Witch, The Wailing, Swiss Army Man, Zootopia, Silence, La La Land, Deadpool, Doctor Strange, Passengers, The Founder, London Has Fallen, Hacksaw Ridge, 13 Hours, 10 Cloverfield Lane, The Accountant, Central Intelligence, Eddie the Eagle.

2017
Alien: Covenant, Lady Bird, The Killing of a Sacred Deer, Dunkirk, Bladerunner 2049, War of the Planet of the Apes, Get Out, Colossal, IT, Split, Wind River, Logan Lucky, Coco, Logan, Wondor Woman, The Disaster Artist, Baby Driver, I Tonya, Mother!, The Post, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing in Missouri, The Shape of Water, Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle, Spider-Man: Homecomming, Life, The Hitman's Bodyguard.

2018
The Mule, You Were Never Really There, Annihilation, Ready Player One, Unsane, Green Book, Upgrade, First Man, Isle of Dogs, Crazy Rich Asians, Black Panther, Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse, Roma, Blackkklansman, A Quiet Place, Bumblebee, Searching.

2019
Joker, Us, Parasite, Marriage Story, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Farewell, Knives Out, The Lighthouse, 1917, Jojo Rabbit, Midsommar, Alita: Battle Angel, Ford V Ferarri, Dark Waters, The Kid Who Would Be King, Ready or Not, Hustlers, Crawl, Long Shot, The Report, Good Boys, Little Monsters, Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark, Doctor Sleep, Hotel Mumbai.

There are a lot of interesting and original ideas just in the last 5 years. Some are adaptations from books or comics/manga but it's still risky for them, like Alita which unfortunately didn't make enough money.

 

[Papa]

I want more tits in movies

Remember tits? Tits on the big screen?!

Halle Berry's tits sparked so much joy in me

 

[Dr_Salt]

Realistically though, is Hollywood really creatively bankrupt?


2015
The Revenant, Bridge of Spies, Joy, The End of the Tour, The Gift, It Follows, Mad Max: Fury Road, Creed, Room, Inside Out, Spotlight, Sicario, The Martian, Straight Outta Compton, Steve Jobs, Kingsman, Trainwreck, Crimson Peak, Ted 2.

2016
The Handmaiden, Don't Breathe, Hush, The Nice Guys, Arrival, The Lobster, The Witch, The Wailing, Swiss Army Man, Zootopia, Silence, La La Land, Deadpool, Doctor Strange, Passengers, The Founder, London Has Fallen, Hacksaw Ridge, 13 Hours, 10 Cloverfield Lane, The Accountant, Central Intelligence, Eddie the Eagle.

2017
Alien: Covenant, Lady Bird, The Killing of a Sacred Deer, Dunkirk, Bladerunner 2049, War of the Planet of the Apes, Get Out, Colossal, IT, Split, Wind River, Logan Lucky, Coco, Logan, Wondor Woman, The Disaster Artist, Baby Driver, I Tonya, Mother!, The Post, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing in Missouri, The Shape of Water, Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle, Spider-Man: Homecomming, Life, The Hitman's Bodyguard.

2018
The Mule, You Were Never Really There, Annihilation, Ready Player One, Unsane, Green Book, Upgrade, First Man, Isle of Dogs, Crazy Rich Asians, Black Panther, Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse, Roma, Blackkklansman, A Quiet Place, Bumblebee, Searching.

2019
Joker, Us, Parasite, Marriage Story, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Farewell, Knives Out, The Lighthouse, 1917, Jojo Rabbit, Midsommar, Alita: Battle Angel, Ford V Ferarri, Dark Waters, The Kid Who Would Be King, Ready or Not, Hustlers, Crawl, Long Shot, The Report, Good Boys, Little Monsters, Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark, Doctor Sleep, Hotel Mumbai.

There are a lot of interesting and original ideas just in the last 5 years. Some are adaptations from books or comics/manga but it's still risky for them, like Alita which unfortunately didn't make enough money.

How many of those are true original ideas? A good chunk of those are either sequels, remakes or adaptations of other media. This just further proves my point.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

It's amazing that in WW84 the actors in the fight scene look like rubber, just like Harry Potter playing that broom game 20 years ago.

It's so weird, movie CGI looking like rubber is fairly common, yet videogames that are rendered in damn real time have characters that don't look rubber at all. Maybe it's the combining of CGI and live video that does it?

 

[BlackOlivesMatter]

I want more tits in movies

Remember tits? Tits on the big screen?!

80's horror movies

 

[nush]

I want more tits in movies

Remember tits? Tits on the big screen?!

Random topless woman in an action movie, just because. I'd like to see the return of the old lady swearing too.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

I'm all for tits coming back in movies. We see plenty of man boobs these days.

 

[INC]

Just use real bullets and glass

Problem solved

 

[newtypepilot]

Lot of it is due to crunch and lack of time. Avengers: Infinity War had plenty of time for vfx and you won't find people complaining about Thanos CGI but Black Panther had to be done in a hurry as the release was impending and resources were being spent on Infinity War VFX so the quality was not upto par.

Pretty much this. A lot of vfx studios are capable of high quality work. The problem has always been lack of time and showrunners having no clue what they want thus they kept asking for iterations.

This is even worse for TV productions, where instead of months, you get weeks. I've worked on a CW show where we had less than 2 weeks to work on 1 episode, and despite this, the showrunners kept asking for changes.

 

[sol_bad]

How many of those are true original ideas? A good chunk of those are either sequels, remakes or adaptations of other media. This just further proves my point.

Original?

Bridge of Spies, Joy, The End of the Tour, The Gift, It Follows, Room, Inside Out, Spotlight, Sicario, Straight Outta Compton, Trainwreck, Crimson Peak, Don't Breathe, Hush, The Nice Guys, The Lobster, The Witch, Swiss Army Man, Zootopia, La La Land, Passengers, The Founder, London Has Fallen, Hacksaw Ridge, 10 Cloverfield Lane, The Accountant, Central Intelligence, Eddie the Eagle, Lady Bird, The Killing of a Sacred Deer, Dunkirk, Get Out, Colossal, Split, Wind River, Logan Lucky, Coco, Baby Driver, I Tonya, Mother!, The Post, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing in Missouri, The Shape of Water, Life, The Hitman's Bodyguard.

Amongst many of the others.

 

[West Texas CEO]

 

[jason10mm]

I'm fine with CGI in movies today and I can understand why a studio would chose to use it.

Just using Wonder Woman 1 as an example, there is a shot of her jumping out of the trench and you can tell she is CGI and it doesn't look the best. It's literally 1 second of footage, who wants to set up a wire rig for 1 second of footage? It would probably take half a day to set up.

I think CGI gun blood impacts look better now than quibs of the old days. Practical quibs look terrible.

IMO practical stuff can be just as bad. As much as I love The Thing and as much talent went into the practical side of things, it looks very and cheesy by todays standards. Same with matte drawings, just as bad and fake looking as green screen.

Aliens is one of my favourite films ever but the Xenomorphs are extremely limited in what they can do and rarely look as agile as they should be.

 

[FreedomOfSpeech]

And another thing.

This charade with actors 'drinking' from empty cups has to stop. It's just too obvious the cups are empty.

 

[sol_bad]

No it's not, it's my opinion which is different to yours.

 

[DapperSloth]

Practical quibs look terrible.

Excuse you?









Paging Dick Jones ! Fire this man!

 

[DJR]

Could be worse;

 

[sol_bad]

Excuse you?









Paging Dick Jones ! Fire this man!

Yes, I have seen Robocop and Total Recall a hundred times. The blood in John Wick looks better as it looks like actual liquid and not big fat red blotches sitting on the body.